V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
they'd need to have some level of self esteem for that to have any effect though
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Smiffy
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I think it would still happen when the s**t hits the fan but the people who would be signing up are not the ones who are on the BBC or are self promoting on social media. They are to busy getting on with life.
There are plenty of people who still can and will and do in this life and this generation. It's just they aren't in the lime light neither are they the ones we encounter as labourers or low skill workers. As even if they do come out of college and start as a labourer or or low skill worker, if they are any good the progress so quickly that they aren't their for long.
Maybe not in terms of starting a company or becoming a millionaire, but in terms of progressing through a structured company it is remarkably easy in this country as there is so little competition.
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6feetdown
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Be vaping and smoking weed
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Jimoz
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I was talking about this yesterday. Would I volunteer if we'd had bombs dropped on us by another country? I'd like to think so. Would I volunteer to defend something like Poland being invaded, I wouldn't think so. I suppose thats why we have professional forces and only have to call up when s**t is really hitting the fan.
Lancs Lad
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It's ok we left Poland to its own devices in 39 🫣
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Stroppymonkey
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Given the sheer scale of the slaughter of WW2, the Battle of Britain was just a little dot.
Given the sheer scale of the slaughter of WW2, the Battle of Britain was just a little dot.
We f***ed Poland over multiple times, then exploited them again in 05 when the zones opened . We honestly deserve them to be carrying out extreme terrorist activities against the UK based on the way they were treated . Poor fuckers got it every which way.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
I disagree ... can't think of any one apart from Rory who'd sign up
JD450A
Feral as Fk 🐾
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6feetdown
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Only way I'd fight for this country at present is if we were invaded (asside from the current invasion).
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Jimoz
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Quite happy to fight the current one once UK ICE starts! Our patriotic duty!
Lancs Lad
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Reform doing well ATM
Silversabre
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The results are in for my area looking at them for the most part, Reform are within 200 votes in the seats they've lost to others
Reform and Green all gains and with Reform winning 9/10 and Greens 3/3.
Reform and Green all gains and with Reform winning 9/10 and Greens 3/3.
Lancs Lad
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Silversabre
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Oh yes,, Trojan HorseThink we all know who's voting for the greens
Open immigration...great
Silversabre
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DaveDCB
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Lancs Lad
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my fav pundit...and its a cracker again:
Starmer’s survival strategy now resembles a group project assembled entirely from the Labour Party’s museum wing.
Britain watches the most unpopular Labour Prime Minister in modern history panic dial the second most unpopular Labour Prime Minister in modern history. As if Gordon Brown is some kind of emergency political defibrillator rather than the bloke who sold Britain’s gold at bargain-bin prices and helped architect half the mess in the first place.
Then comes the announcement that Starmer plans to stay in power for a decade. ...A decade. Most Labour MPs currently look at him the way passengers look at a cruise captain reversing into an iceberg, yet he’s talking like he’s launching a new Elizabethan era. And who exactly is this dazzling rescue squad? Gordon Brown. Harriet Harman. Rachel Reeves.
The political equivalent of finding an old box of VHS tapes in a damp loft and calling it “fresh leadership”.
Then they release that cinematic Downing Street garden video, all solemn expressions, meaningful piano music and self-satisfied nodding, like they’ve just negotiated peace in the Middle East instead of detonating their own support base.
It looked less like a government reset and more like the trailer for a BBC drama called Last Days of the Regime.
Meanwhile the “new vision” appears to be… getting closer to the EU again. Because apparently Labour’s groundbreaking strategic innovation is rummaging through the 2016 recycling bin and hoping nobody notices. And now we’re treated to yet another “reset speech.”
At this point Starmer has had more resets than a malfunctioning WiFi router. Every speech is supposedly the turning point. Every relaunch is the relaunch to relaunch the previous relaunch. The whole thing has become political performance art by people who still genuinely believe the audience is applauding. its just so embarrassingly cringe worthy.
Starmer’s survival strategy now resembles a group project assembled entirely from the Labour Party’s museum wing.
Britain watches the most unpopular Labour Prime Minister in modern history panic dial the second most unpopular Labour Prime Minister in modern history. As if Gordon Brown is some kind of emergency political defibrillator rather than the bloke who sold Britain’s gold at bargain-bin prices and helped architect half the mess in the first place.
Then comes the announcement that Starmer plans to stay in power for a decade. ...A decade. Most Labour MPs currently look at him the way passengers look at a cruise captain reversing into an iceberg, yet he’s talking like he’s launching a new Elizabethan era. And who exactly is this dazzling rescue squad? Gordon Brown. Harriet Harman. Rachel Reeves.
The political equivalent of finding an old box of VHS tapes in a damp loft and calling it “fresh leadership”.
Then they release that cinematic Downing Street garden video, all solemn expressions, meaningful piano music and self-satisfied nodding, like they’ve just negotiated peace in the Middle East instead of detonating their own support base.
It looked less like a government reset and more like the trailer for a BBC drama called Last Days of the Regime.
Meanwhile the “new vision” appears to be… getting closer to the EU again. Because apparently Labour’s groundbreaking strategic innovation is rummaging through the 2016 recycling bin and hoping nobody notices. And now we’re treated to yet another “reset speech.”
At this point Starmer has had more resets than a malfunctioning WiFi router. Every speech is supposedly the turning point. Every relaunch is the relaunch to relaunch the previous relaunch. The whole thing has become political performance art by people who still genuinely believe the audience is applauding. its just so embarrassingly cringe worthy.
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Old Operator
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The Tories actually went backward in the elections so no improvement there. I thought very long & hard before defecting to Reform in the 2024 General election (my then sitting Tory MP had already defected) It does seem a pivotal moment a bit like the 1920's when Labour largely took over from the Liberals as main opposition. I once thought that Reform would be a junior partner in coalition with the Tories, I now think the reverse is more likely. That said I think the Tories will continue as a separate but smaller force (as the Liberals did). It now seems if you want a small state, pro business party in power it will be Reform (despite their at times lack of experience & professionalism). It is only economic success that allows the NHS, social spending etc. I doubt Reform could afford electorally to disband the NHS even if they wished to. Essential treatment should always be free at the point of need - but in France individual hospitals are sub contractors to government, some are run by charities. This means there is not one employer, preventing national bargaining & strikes (here junior doctors seem the new car workers / miners)
As to Labour leadership, there is no guarantee if Burnham stood in a created vacancy he would win, nor indeed his mayoral successor candidate would. Otherwise there are Far Left Angie, Milliband or Wes Streeting. The first two would make a worse mess than now, not sure of the third. Only way Labour could save themselves is to come out of EHCR & crack down on mass illegal immigration as these low skill / unemployable migrants are far more a threat to the native poor than to those further up the scale. The party has deserted the descendants of the people that it was supposed to help. Their 'liberal principles' would never allow this - they just leave the gates open & dump the result on places such as Telford, Stoke, Rotherham, Hull etc. I wonder if these with migrants welcome placards would be so keen if this wave was relocated to Marlowe, Hampstead, Poole, Henley
As to Labour leadership, there is no guarantee if Burnham stood in a created vacancy he would win, nor indeed his mayoral successor candidate would. Otherwise there are Far Left Angie, Milliband or Wes Streeting. The first two would make a worse mess than now, not sure of the third. Only way Labour could save themselves is to come out of EHCR & crack down on mass illegal immigration as these low skill / unemployable migrants are far more a threat to the native poor than to those further up the scale. The party has deserted the descendants of the people that it was supposed to help. Their 'liberal principles' would never allow this - they just leave the gates open & dump the result on places such as Telford, Stoke, Rotherham, Hull etc. I wonder if these with migrants welcome placards would be so keen if this wave was relocated to Marlowe, Hampstead, Poole, Henley
Lancs Lad
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Absolutely bang on.
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