Who can guess what this is going to be?

[V8Druid]

That's the idea, but can't see that I'll need them. The winch tray itself pusing into the soil will act as a spade of sorts, there's 8" of clamped on blade below the depth of the digger blade too.

If I find that it doesn't need that much flow to run effectively, I will be tempted to tee into the blade circuit with a tap.

and presumably wedge the blade control into a constant position? ... would need to two way/isolate it off though, or it'd possibly end up 'floating' through the cetop's T line

 

[V8Druid]

I'd also give consideration as to whether the rotary coupling would cope with the constant flow ... they're normally intermittent usage .... should, but yer never can tell, especially when under load, but that would in theory also be intermittent. the winch's circuit'd deffo put a lot more pressure on the rotary seals than the blade or even the tracking circuits ever would though

 

[doobin]

OK, I'm not tempted any more!

 

[doobin]

Here’s the root weld filling the v using 15% gas.

 

[V8Druid]

looks to be a cold lap between the line Doob .... the ringed bit is burnt in better ... but this is only a pic of one angle / view .. can't be categorical without a face to face with it

I'd be looking to wash in to this sort of extent with a definite 'cut' into 1/2 the edge of the RSC and a bit more juice

followed up with either a cap weave or two half width plus, overlapping beads to the top edge of the RSC

 

[V8Druid]

OK, I'm not tempted any more!

 

[V8Druid]

View attachment 9413Here’s the root weld filling the v using 15% gas.

forgot to ask ..... are you pushing or pulling the torch .... I'd guess the latter ?

 

[doobin]

Pushing the torch. Sadly my welder has no more amps to give

 

[doobin]

Here’s it capped with 5% gas, pushing torch and just into spray transfer

 

[doobin]

 

[V8Druid]

Pushing the torch. Sadly my welder has no more amps to give

what size wire you using Doob ? .. back the feed speed down a bit

 

[V8Druid]

View attachment 9420

nice mate ... that looks a lovely little winch

 

[doobin]

what size wire you using Doob ? .. back the feed speed down a bit

1mm. You're saying get it closer to spray transfer?

Thanks for all the advice, really helpul

Another query- I have a CETOP stack to assemble. Base unit with four ports, presure regulator and then the electronic divertor. The divertor and regulator have ports marked so I can align these. Nothing on the base unit- does it matter which way round this goes?

Also, what's the best way/what do I need to test the pressure once all this is installed?

 

[Bri963]

Big thing I think I’m seeing is you’ve got your nozzle laid back a bit too much. Keep your settings as they are and stay a bit more upright. More upright = more penetration. You just sacrifice a bit of tidiness.

 

[doobin]

Big thing I think I’m seeing is you’ve got your nozzle laid back a bit too much. Keep your settings as they are and stay a bit more upright. More upright = more penetration. You just sacrifice a bit of tidiness.

I do indeed use a slightly angled nozzle. However I'm pretty sure that with the heavy gas there was enough penetration- you could see the heat line through the 12mm plate? Which pics are you refering to?

This is all good learning.

 

[Bri963]

I wasn’t going so much on the edge of the weld, i can’t make out that much detail from the pictures. I was going more on the ripple pattern.

 

[V8Druid]

1mm. You're saying get it closer to spray transfer?
Thanks for all the advice, really helpul ..... Nothing on the base unit- does it matter which way round this goes? .. Also, what's the best way/what do I need to test the pressure once all this is installed?

if you're limited on current output Doob, go down to a 0.8mm wire .... you'll still lay down 15kgs off a 15kg spool, just a little slower ... but you'll be able to achieve much better heat and penetration ... and control .... plus spray is much more easily achieved .... torch wants to be at about 75 degs, just behind the melt pool and filling it at the leading edge of the pool, before moving on (but obviously a continuous, smooth process, once filled at the start point) and make sure you fill the full width, with obvious penetration at the outer edges of the pool ... try not to hump it .. hard to explain in words

Assume you mean manifold / base plate ..... any pix .... may have 4 or 6 holes/ports .... two P, two T, an A and a B or just one P & T ... if two, plug one of each, unless you're feeding something else P, T, A & B are marked on the cetop .. your P into the manifold needs to correspond with the P port on the cetop when bolted to the manifold/base plate ... etc.

Tee in a pressure gauge at the P port ... and read it whilst running the winch under load. .... with an open ctr. cetop, you'll have to load the winch for a true reading

 

[honey_badger]

if you're limited on current output Doob, go down to a 0.8mm wire .... you'll still lay down 15kgs off a 15kg spool, just a little slower ... but you'll be able to achieve much better heat and penetration ... and control .... plus spray is much more easily achieved .... torch wants to be at about 75 degs, just behind the melt pool and filling it at the leading edge of the pool, before moving on (but obviously a continuous, smooth process, once filled at the start point) and make sure you fill the full width, with obvious penetration at the outer edges of the pool ... try not to hump it .. hard to explain in words

Assume you mean manifold / base plate ..... any pix .... may have 4 or 6 holes/ports .... two P, two T, an A and a B or just one P & T ... if two, plug one of each, unless you're feeding something else P, T, A & B are marked on the cetop .. your P into the manifold needs to correspond with the P port on the cetop when bolted to the manifold/base plate ... etc.

Tee in a pressure gauge at the P port ... and read it whilst running the winch under load. .... with an open ctr. cetop, you'll have to load the winch for a true reading

I can second that on going down to 0.8 druid, I went from 1.0 to 0.8 recently on my boc mig200c and its made a big difference for both thin and thick material.

 

[Monkeybusiness]

If you’ve got a pressure regulator as part of the kit do you really need to bother measuring pressure? Is it not set for the winch out of the box? What blows off at point of stall - surely something in the winch kit, otherwise there would be no way of knowing how powerful it is?
I’m really interested in how this performs. We’ve had a lot of success with electric Winchmax winches (I think they are incredible value for money and up there with the best electric winches on the market). Keep us updated, this looks good!

 

[V8Druid]

I can second that on going down to 0.8 druid, I went from 1.0 to 0.8 recently on my boc mig200c and its made a big difference for both thin and thick material.

TBH all my smaller migs in my w/shop (up to 300A) usually had 0.8mm in them as they got used for all sorts of fab.ing from 2mm up to 12mm + on the bench. ..... the 600,s usually had 1mm or 1.2mm in 'em for heavier welding .
0.8 will give you just as good a weld - better if you don't have the juice, on thicker plate work ... just need a few more passes or a slower hand and certainly sprays easier