Ineos Grenadier

[William127]

Today's not a Grenadier- my new 90 project.
Solid chassis, rebuild front axle, new rear a frame, everything there (or in the shed next to it). Collecting it on Saturday it'll be getting a heart transplant from my d2, a rebuild and probably a soft top...
That's my 3 car garage well sorted- crafter dropside for work, d4 commercial van/tow truck/posh car/camping wagon and a classic to tinker with for a few years

 

[V8Druid]

Today's not a Grenadier- my new 90 project.
Solid chassis, rebuild front axle, new rear a frame, everything there (or in the shed next to it). Collecting it on Saturday it'll be getting a heart transplant from my d2, a rebuild and probably a soft top...
That's my 3 car garage well sorted- crafter dropside for work, d4 commercial van/tow truck/posh car/camping wagon and a classic to tinker with for a few years

nah ..... stick a V8 in it and enjoy ......... 9.75:1 big valve Vitesse 3500, flap valver, on LPG/petrol ... tight but do-able ......... nothing sounds like a V8

 

[William127]

nah ..... stick a V8 in it and enjoy ......... 9.75:1 big valve Vitesse 3500, flap valver, on LPG/petrol ... tight but do-able ......... nothing sounds like a V8
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Bet that went and sounded great, lovely job, but it's diesel for me. Although a v8 will always win for noise

 

[craig]

An email off INEOS this morning,

Hi Craig, Introducing Grenadier Commercial. With a flat floor and a full-height cargo barrier behind the front seats, you’ll have over 2,000 litres of loadspace, and be able to carry a standard Euro pallet. Aimed at businesses that need a capable 4X4, it boasts the same great capability and specification as the original 2-seater Utility Wagon it replaces. But with specific changes that mean HMRC has confirmed you’ll be able to reclaim VAT.

They just need a SWB version, at the right price and they may be on to something

 

[DaveDCB]

Any further details yet do you know? Or was it just a register your interest email?

 

[TiltyShaun]

An email off INEOS this morning,

Hi Craig, Introducing Grenadier Commercial. With a flat floor and a full-height cargo barrier behind the front seats, you’ll have over 2,000 litres of loadspace, and be able to carry a standard Euro pallet. Aimed at businesses that need a capable 4X4, it boasts the same great capability and specification as the original 2-seater Utility Wagon it replaces. But with specific changes that mean HMRC has confirmed you’ll be able to reclaim VAT.

They just need a SWB version, at the right price and they may be on to something

You just beat me to it!!
At £50k plus VAT it starts to look like it might make some sense!!
I wonder how much the rear seats will be???

 

[craig]

Any further details yet do you know? Or was it just a register your interest email?

Yes, register your interest email.

 

[Lancs Lad]

Just had same...after some digging it's only a vat reclaim confirmation from HMRC still not a true commercial from sake of BIK as still not 1t payload.
Also confirms rear seat mounts are rendered unusable.
But a step forward nonetheless less
Also Some new cryptic note about vehicles modified by EDC still having a 3 year warranty.

 

[craig]

Just had same...after some digging it's only a vat reclaim confirmation from HMRC still not a true commercial from sake of BIK as still not 1t payload.
Also confirms rear seat mounts are rendered unusable.
But a step forward nonetheless less
Also Some new cryptic note about vehicles modified by EDC still having a 3 year warranty.

Is the 1 ton payload only for crew cabs, 4/5 seats, double cabs. A true van is a van regardless of capacity.
I`m thinking fiesta, citroen and others don't carry a ton, but still comply with BIK.

 

[DaveDCB]

https://ineosgrenadier.com/en/gb/grenadier-commercial-register-interest

Done, but it won’t be of interest to me if it doesn’t have the option of 3 seats up front..

 

[Lancs Lad]

Y

Is the 1 ton payload only for crew cabs, 4/5 seats, double cabs. A true van is a van regardless of capacity.
I`m thinking fiesta, citroen and others don't carry a ton, but still comply with BIK.

I think it's an actual definition of DPV by HMRC.

 

[craig]

Bit of digging,

Other vehicles​

The 1 tonne rule only applies to double cab pickups, not to any other vehicle.

Other specific types of vehicle are dealt with at EIM23155.

EIM23150 - Car benefit: double cab pickups - HMRC internal manual - GOV.UK

www.gov.uk

and

EIM23115 - Car benefit: vehicle of a construction primarily suited for the conveyance of goods or burden of any description: meaning of construction - HMRC internal manual - GOV.UK

www.gov.uk

"changes such as permanent removal of the rear seats and all associated fittings"

EIM23120 - Car benefit: vehicle of a construction primarily suited for the conveyance of goods or burden of any description: meaning of primarily suited - HMRC internal manual - GOV.UK

www.gov.uk

A vehicle will not automatically satisfy this test simply because it has only one row of seats. There are certain sports cars and leisure vehicles that can only seat a driver and one passenger, but that are quite clearly not primarily suited for carrying goods or burden.

"A vehicle will not automatically fail this test if it has two rows of seats. There are certain vehicles that have a large/high load area that significantly exceeds the passenger and multi-purpose areas, and are primarily suited for carrying goods or burden."

I would like to think they`ve sorted it second time around

 

[V8Druid]

An email off INEOS this morning,

Hi Craig, Introducing Grenadier Commercial. With a flat floor and a full-height cargo barrier behind the front seats, you’ll have over 2,000 litres of loadspace, and be able to carry a standard Euro pallet. Aimed at businesses that need a capable 4X4, it boasts the same great capability and specification as the original 2-seater Utility Wagon it replaces. But with specific changes that mean HMRC has confirmed you’ll be able to reclaim VAT.

They just need a SWB version, at the right price and they may be on to something

but what about the VAT issues?

 

[DaveDCB]

Can be reclaimed

 

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[6feetdown]

Some reasonably priced ones about

 

[Smiffy]

Some reasonably priced ones about

Am I the only person who still thinks reasonably priced is 5grand. My first truck had 30k on it 7.years old and 3 grand.
I still look at a 60 plate and think it's basically brand new. Maybe I have very low expectations.
I think I've decided I want a willis jeep as my daily driver. Problem is they are stupid money.

 

[6feetdown]

Am I the only person who still thinks reasonably priced is 5grand. My first truck had 30k on it 7.years old and 3 grand.
I still look at a 60 plate and think it's basically brand new. Maybe I have very low expectations.
I think I've decided I want a willis jeep as my daily driver. Problem is they are stupid money.

No your right but when I 1st looked they were around 54k I think a defender commercial was I think about 45ish, then the world went mad

 

[hiluxman]

Am I the only person who still thinks reasonably priced is 5grand. My first truck had 30k on it 7.years old and 3 grand.
I still look at a 60 plate and think it's basically brand new. Maybe I have very low expectations.
I think I've decided I want a willis jeep as my daily driver. Problem is they are stupid money.

No, exactly same here.

Someone says I've a 61 reg and instantly I think it's not old...bloody is tho. Mind still a 61 reg would be more reliable than a 71 reg I'm sure.

My newst truck is a 70 plate, 2nd oldest is a 66 plate and 3rd oldest is a 61 plate. N the vehicle that earns me the most is a 54 plate.

My 70 plate dose 13mpg less than the 2000 w reg it replaced....but it's good for the clean air bollocks

 

[Smiffy]

No your right but when I 1st looked they were around 54k I think a defender commercial was I think about 45ish, then the world went mad

Hilux seem to have released the 2.8l engine and auto box in there active range even as a king cab. Isuzu do auto and cruise control on the utility spec. I think that is the closest I can see to value anytime soon.
Anything I actually want is now very long in the tooth.