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6feetdown
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Said same to me
GazCro
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It's a piece of pi** for a taki dealer to do that as they basically full spec every uk machine but they clearly are not pricing it as such. I assume they must think once you are asking for specific changes they've got you hooked and can take the mick.
Hg2702
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There machines are defiantly not full spec
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6feetdown
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Wonder what the jcb is price wise
Hg2702
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I think at the time they were about 23,500 the cat was 24
jcb was a very close second it’s a very very nice little machine only real shame was it’s not zero swing
GazCro
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I don't think you get my point. I'm not talking your personal spec but their's. If you look at any taki model there are nigh on no optional extras, so every machine comes into the uk with every box ticked apart from the odd model where extra lines might be optional or tb290 with tab boom. The point being that a machine ordered in for someone who backs out isn't gonna be a hard sell to somebody else because they don't want aircon to save money if you can't buy the machine without it anyway.
Jcb could learn from it in someways imo, an option list a mile long might make you feel good ticking loads of boxes but surely anybody speccing a cab is gonna want a wiper, heater radio etc. Does make them look cheap at first glance mind.
Hg2702
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When I looked at jcb the only thing I added was the 2nd line they do a specific model which has prop controls , that and a radio as you say and 9 times out of the that’s an extra
with my 216 I added the 2nd lines , prop controls and a keypad code
regarding personal spec on the cat I only added a ram guard , I didn’t think that for 24k twin lines , prop controls , air con , dab radio , Bluetooth and key coded security as standard .
with my 216 I added the 2nd lines , prop controls and a keypad code
regarding personal spec on the cat I only added a ram guard , I didn’t think that for 24k twin lines , prop controls , air con , dab radio , Bluetooth and key coded security as standard .
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GazCro
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So the builders digger is on the job I'm working on so to save the hassle of taking another of mine I've been using his.
Oh no hide the rope it's a 216 I'll never cope. Well I'm gonna be honest I'm only using it to load soil into a dumper but as far as doing that goes i don't know where all the hate comes from. Might be different if i try some digging with it but i likely won't on this job. I wouldn't change my 219 for it as the extra reach is a miss when loading dumpers etc and ffs the fuel filler cap is in that wonderful place they all like to put them where you can't get a drum near it 
It's a 2020 build and despite seeing it on jobs a few times I'd never took much notice, but no cast dipper
It's a 2020 build and despite seeing it on jobs a few times I'd never took much notice, but no cast dipper
Storrsy
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The buggers! They've changed the dippers on them now?So the builders digger is on the job I'm working on so to save the hassle of taking another of mine I've been using his. View attachment 29835Oh no hide the rope it's a 216 I'll never cope. Well I'm gonna be honest I'm only using it to load soil into a dumper but as far as doing that goes i don't know where all the hate comes from. Might be different if i try some digging with it but i likely won't on this job. I wouldn't change my 219 for it as the extra reach is a miss when loading dumpers etc and ffs the fuel filler cap is in that wonderful place they all like to put them where you can't get a drum near it
It's a 2020 build and despite seeing it on jobs a few times I'd never took much notice, but no cast dipper View attachment 29836
The main issue I have with my TB216 is the slew is erratic and overshoots. Grab the bucket and there is alot of sideways movement from new. But everything else I can live with. The one thing I will say is they are bloody stable- I'd go as far to say probably best in class in this respect and reach is pretty good too. I don't think breakout is that great either. I tried a Kubota KX 018-4 and that was even more shite so who knows!
GazCro
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I'll check for movement in slew ring but as far I've noticed there's nothing erratic or unpredictable about it. Plenty quick enough for just bulking heaps into dumper as well. In fact i wouldn't mind if 219 was as quick at slewing.
Furniss
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My Kubota U17-3a is exactly the same in the slew
not been on it much but you learn to drive it differently to compensate but pretty poor really.
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Tacitus
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Very interesting conversation here. I have a TB016 and find it great but a bit too small for what I am doing. It struggles with bigger boulders and the grab would need that little bit more reach, and so does the arm. I am building stone retaining walls on a slope, and the 016 is marginal in my situation. I would love a 225 but will be over my towing capacity, and upgrading the truck is outside the scope of this exercise.
Can someone who upgraded from 016 to 219 confirm it will be an improvement in lifting capacity? I know it will reach that much more, but the lifting capacity can be subjective.
Can someone who upgraded from 016 to 219 confirm it will be an improvement in lifting capacity? I know it will reach that much more, but the lifting capacity can be subjective.
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Brendan
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What vehicle do you tow with?
Storrsy
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219 is slightly better lift capacity- perhaps an extra 60kg at far reach. So in terms of boulder handling not a massive upgrade on a 016. I used to do loads of granite walling/retaining walls etc with an 016, it was always on its knees. A 2.8t is a massive upgrade in comparison. Can't comment on the 225 as haven't used one for boulder walling.
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Tacitus
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Unfortunately for now, I have to stick to my Toyota Surf that can pull 2.5 tn no problems but not more, not legally anyway. So for now it is either bait the bullet and stick with the 016 and it's limitations, or go 219. I will need to upgrade the grab though and that will give me that much more handling size. I believe the auger drive will be Ok to use the same, only need a different hitch.
JD450A
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Get a hitch modified/made to take the 016 buckets and tools.
I'm running a baby Intermeco 016 grab on my 219, tbh it's about right size wise
219 buckets are a little bigger, but what you theoretically gain in size you loose in weight as they are quite a bit heavier build.
I like my 219, but whichever person on the design team thought altering the pin dimensions was a good idea had obviously had too much rice wine.....
doobin
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If you’re not going on motorway etc just wing it mate. No comparison between a 2.5 and a 1.9t especially for that kind of work.
Silly to spend that kind of money upgrading the digger for a tiny bit more capacity when you could could get a proper machine for the job and change the tow truck later.
Hg2702
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Cat 302cr job done 
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Keif
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The tb216 will lift more, I’ve had them side by side. Not sure about the 016.Cat 302cr job done
Hg2702
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In yank measurements or proper standards ?
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