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6feetdown
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Need to put a bit through that to pay
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DaveDCB
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I work on about £2/ton to crush , plus a machine to load..
doobin
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Waste of time loading a machine that small with a machine in my experience. They block up for fun.
They are great for nightmare access sites where you have a load of concrete to crush and need type 1. Stick a labourer feeding it and you end up (slowly) with a nice sample.
But if you can get a grab to the job and can trust your supplier for decent quality type 1, that works out cheaper IME.
groundworker
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Fitter's been out and agreed it's not working as intended, going to swap with smaller one they have in yard.
doobin
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Well that’s gonna be even worse!!!
HuntingHicap
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we hire the rhino 4000's and 5000. The 4000's are great as @doobin said for crap access jobs, I used one at my place to crush about 6ton of mixed hardcore, would have had to track barrow it all out, then run type one back in. Processed it in a day, was hard graft on my own. The Rhino 5000 we hire gets broken on basically every hire we send it on, as people treat it like its a full sized crusher, which it isn't. They are all extremely busy tho, even though the minimum week hire rate for the small one is £1195.
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Tintan28
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I’ve got a Tigerbite crusher which is does pay its way on tight access jobs such as small extensions where often the patio is being lifted to make space for the extension & replaced at the end with new. Crush all paving & any rubble from knock throughs for hardcore under subfloor or new patio areas etc. Saves £330odd+vat on skips (grab wagons are rarer than buses around here) & the labour in & out. Wouldn’t hire it though as easily knackered in the wrong hands. You’d not want to loading it for a few days on end, neighbours rarely appreciate the noise & I’ll never be adding the number of zeros onto my tax return that @doobin must but it more than wipes its own arse & most importantly makes me less reliant on others turning up when I need them so less down time.
doobin
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Can’t you negotiate a better skip price if clean hardcore?
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Tintan28
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I’m more than an hour away from the nearest skip operator not is a great place for negotiating price & not generally full skips to crush so would end up filling up with general waste or sending away part full. And I spend enough on the bloody things already, on average around £5-6k a year.
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Stroppymonkey
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about 30-35 ton to be cost neutral... less skip costs (assume the labour to load the crusher is the same as barrowing out to a skip and bringing clean back in) That sound about right?
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Smiffy
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Depends on the area.
We can get 8 wheelers in for clean concrete breakout at £30 a lorry. ( Grabs are a fair bit more this is for a straight tipper)
Low quality recycled crush start at £12 a tonne and extends to £35 a tonne for high quality grade recycled type one blended with clay as a binder in specific quantity. The quality that these small crushers produce equates to between £12 and £20 a tonne. At the above £1195 a week hire that could be as much as 90 tonnes to break even.
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DaveDCB
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I was paying 140 for a 8w grab for clean hardcore away on last job, far too small to crush on. Just needed it gone every morning at 730am before the lads turned up.
doobin
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TJs recycled blend has planings in it and it’s good gear at just under £30/t.
I pay £100 for a grab removal of clean hardcore
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Tintan28
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Presumably they're nearby you as I wouldn't want to be running a grab wagon full very far for that money!
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Smiffy
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We use day aggregates eco blend. They do black which has road plannings added and white that has clay added. It goes down like concrete with a trench compactor.
doobin
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Maybe 15 miles away. If they're running low on feedstock for their crusher it's sometimes cheaper, or if I order a load of crush on the same wagon.
William127
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That about sums it up. The 2 times I've had one we needed crushed, needed concrete removal and had no access for grabs- 2nd job we had to track crusher, micro and slanetrac through the house ! Luckily it was basically a shell.
If you're saving on both ends like that they pay, but if you only need it getting rid of better of spending on a couple of barrow pushers or dumpering out to a grab pile if possible.
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Brendan
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Those hire prices are savage.
I'm sure I asked this before but how does it work permit wise assuming the small towables are just small enough to not need one
I'm sure I asked this before but how does it work permit wise assuming the small towables are just small enough to not need one
groundworker
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The hire prices are a joke, this thing probably costs less than the 3 ton digger I had on hire last week but 3x the hire cost. I had even more expensive quotes. I'm sure they cost a bit to run but I'm sure the hire firms are milking it while these machines are not that commonplace.
Permit wise I don't know what the rules are, I would hazard a guess none of the small builders/landscapers/hire firms know either.
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groundworker
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I was asked specifically to break up and crush a hardstanding for part of the job.
For another part I suggested we crush and reuse as we have several loads of demo waste to go and probably 200sqm of basing up to do for oversite, landscaping, outbuilding etc.
It's been priced accordingly, I'm not expecting to get 100 ton per day out of these little machines but I would like to see a grab load in a day tomorrow which will be the first (hopefully) full day with the smaller one.
I've not done this before as I've had no interest in spending my time doing it. However on this job we have a scaffold up for roof strip and first floor demo which is restricting my access for getting gear in and out. I have two labourers knocking down walls, not really what I want my skilled groundworker to be doing so I thought I'd try this to keep him occupied and ideally keep my digger spinning too.
Obviously it's not gone to plan so far but I had a few hours on the smaller crusher today and it is loads faster than the other one so obviously something wrong there.
It will eat bricks as fast as you can (hand) feed them in so tomorrow I'll see if the boys can keep up with it knocking down internal walls.
Not expecting this to be a massive earner but it's something that can be done alongside the other work on the job while the groundworks is at a halt. Plus I just wanted to give it a go.
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