yard/shed

[V8Druid]

tripped over this the other night .... if only stuff like this could be found in the UK

France

Bâtiment commercial Exclusivité agence ! Bâtiment de 560 m² au sol construit en 1997 sur une parcelle de 4972 m² avec vaste espace parking. Station de lav...

Exclusief bij ons makelaarskantoor! Gebouw met een vloeroppervlak van 560 m², gebouwd in 1997 op een perceel van 4972 m² met ruime parkeergelegenheid. Was- en reinigingsinstallatie aanwezig. Een garage met werkput, een autowerkplaats, een ontvangstruimte, een kantoor, sanitair en douche, kleedkamers, twee grote ruimtes op de bovenverdieping, aan elke gevelzijde met betonnen vloerplaten en trappen. Het geheel is gelegen in een economische zone. Ref.: 1839 T Virtuele rondleiding beschikbaar op aanvraag!

appears to have sold .... hardly surprising at the asking

 

[Simon edwards]

tripped over this the other night .... if only stuff like this could be found in the UK

France
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Bâtiment commercial Exclusivité agence ! Bâtiment de 560 m² au sol construit en 1997 sur une parcelle de 4972 m² avec vaste espace parking. Station de lav...

Exclusief bij ons makelaarskantoor! Gebouw met een vloeroppervlak van 560 m², gebouwd in 1997 op een perceel van 4972 m² met ruime parkeergelegenheid. Was- en reinigingsinstallatie aanwezig. Een garage met werkput, een autowerkplaats, een ontvangstruimte, een kantoor, sanitair en douche, kleedkamers, twee grote ruimtes op de bovenverdieping, aan elke gevelzijde met betonnen vloerplaten en trappen. Het geheel is gelegen in een economische zone. Ref.: 1839 T Virtuele rondleiding beschikbaar op aanvraag!

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Be happy to live in that

 

[V8Druid]

Be happy to live in that

you and me both ... house with workshop attached
could do a lot with that nice little acreage
the building is a stunning facility in what looks like a nice location

 

[Rob65]

tripped over this the other night .... if only stuff like this could be found in the UK

France
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Bâtiment commercial Exclusivité agence ! Bâtiment de 560 m² au sol construit en 1997 sur une parcelle de 4972 m² avec vaste espace parking. Station de lav...

Exclusief bij ons makelaarskantoor! Gebouw met een vloeroppervlak van 560 m², gebouwd in 1997 op een perceel van 4972 m² met ruime parkeergelegenheid. Was- en reinigingsinstallatie aanwezig. Een garage met werkput, een autowerkplaats, een ontvangstruimte, een kantoor, sanitair en douche, kleedkamers, twee grote ruimtes op de bovenverdieping, aan elke gevelzijde met betonnen vloerplaten en trappen. Het geheel is gelegen in een economische zone. Ref.: 1839 T Virtuele rondleiding beschikbaar op aanvraag!

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I paid more than that for 100 square meter unit earlier this yr

 

[Furniss]

yeah but the feckers get you other ways dont be fooled its still as, if not more expensive than the uk tax wise - we just get somewhere nicer to live

and depends where it is, a mate if mine has moved his business premises in Brest - he kept the old unit for now, its 450m2 with little 1 bed apartment on end and about 2500m2 yard, apparently they valued it at 750k €

I paid 50k € inc fees 10y ago for 320m2 including office in corner, 3 phase and water, 10minutes walk from home just out of our hillbilly village.

really location depending

 

[pettsy]

If I had a shed and yard like that, my other half would never see me again

 

[Canal Navvy]

If I had a yard and a shed like that S.H.M.B.O. would never have met me

 

[Maxus]

I would absolutely love something like this, even a 10th the size would be a dream. I see two main problems, the absolute eye watering cost, I haven't seen anything decent for less than the price of a family home, and if your lucky enough to find something that's suitable, you're then on the hook for business rates. I don't know what the rates would be, I've not seriously enquired or spoken to an accountant. I'd be very interested to hear what strategies people would recommend for acquiring a yard/shed for a small, essentially 1 man band.

 

[V8Druid]

I would absolutely love something like this, even a 10th the size would be a dream. I see two main problems, the absolute eye watering cost, I haven't seen anything decent for less than the price of a family home, and if your lucky enough to find something that's suitable, you're then on the hook for business rates. I don't know what the rates would be, I've not seriously enquired or spoken to an accountant. I'd be very interested to hear what strategies people would recommend for acquiring a yard/shed for a small, essentially 1 man band.

in 2010 the UBR on my 10,000ft2 workshop in 1.02 acre yard was just over a grand a month ..... that and wages, etc., etc., etc., took some making ... a busy month'd see the leccy bill at over 400 quid ... worst bill I ever had was over 1500 quid for a quarter
everything we did virtually, was leccy dependent

 

[Rob65]

I would absolutely love something like this, even a 10th the size would be a dream. I see two main problems, the absolute eye watering cost, I haven't seen anything decent for less than the price of a family home, and if your lucky enough to find something that's suitable, you're then on the hook for business rates. I don't know what the rates would be, I've not seriously enquired or spoken to an accountant. I'd be very interested to hear what strategies people would recommend for acquiring a yard/shed for a small, essentially 1 man band.

I can’t remember the threshold but there is what’s called Small Bussines rates relief. It basically means that if the rateable value of premises is below a certain value you do not have to pay any rates. There is a bit of small print about things like for example you can only have single premises.

I have a two story building 15m x 4m and same in yard space. This qualified for free rates. I get stung for about £500 yr for insurance though.

 

[JD450A]

Up to 10k for sbrr.

Probably going to change. I suspect not for the better.

It's also wildly variable and dependent on the council..... To be fair if they implement An actual matrix for the cost that's transparent it'd be a better system

 

[V8Druid]

IIRC it's £6k here

 

[Furniss]

I pay about 400€ rates annualy iirc for the yard - 320m2 inside - 1500m2 outside approx - although neighbour lets me stock soil etc in her field at moment.

Its swings and roundabouts though, its a thing that relates to us guys that seems incredible value but its just cherry picking, overall its a bloody racket tax wise here, all the french moan just like uk, they say you work 3days for the state and 2 for yourselves

 

[DaveDCB]

in 2010 the UBR on my 10,000ft2 workshop in 1.02 acre yard was just over a grand a month ..... that and wages, etc., etc., etc., took some making ... a busy month'd see the leccy bill at over 400 quid ... worst bill I ever had was over 1500 quid for a quarter
everything we did virtually, was leccy dependent

My mates dairy - ie they process milk and make icecream with a small cafe - pay 100k a year on electric alone!! That’s not inc the farm side!!

I work on £150/sqft for buying commercial space!

 

[V8Druid]

My mates dairy - ie they process milk and make icecream with a small cafe - pay 100k a year on electric alone!! That’s not inc the farm side!!

I work on £150/sqft for buying commercial space!

can well believe it ... leccy was 11.2p/kwh in 2010 -- now look at it
your mate is also in a leccy hungry industry Iccy crem don't freeze on its own

that seems a 'heavy' figure for commercial space Dave or is that for smaller units ? long time since I looked at that market though

 

[DaveDCB]

It’s a fair average benchmark.. about right for new units with afew parking spaces, or old units with big yards etc.. rental is around £10/sqft for old and 15+ for new.. and touching £20 for small units! Start going over 5k sqft and the price will steadily go down!

 

[Lancs Lad]

It’s a fair average benchmark.. about right for new units with afew parking spaces, or old units with big yards etc.. rental is around £10/sqft for old and 15+ for new.. and touching £20 for small units! Start going over 5k sqft and the price will steadily go down!

5.50 here for warehouse. 7.50 for office. Just had probate valuation. Thought was a bit low.
Surrey is twice that at least !

 

[DaveDCB]

5.50 here for warehouse. 7.50 for office. Just had probate valuation. Thought was a bit low.
Surrey is twice that at least !

I’m just putting a 2800sft uninsulated up for £12.5 and insulated new build for £15.. it’s handy when probate valuation is a tad low.. so long as they don’t question it!

 

[Furniss]

bonkers really - no good for no-one ultimately

 

[Monkeybusiness]

I’m just putting a 2800sft uninsulated up for £12.5 and insulated new build for £15.. it’s handy when probate valuation is a tad low.. so long as they don’t question it!

Build cost per foot, or is that a projected rental return?