What disc cutters are we all using then?

V8Druid

V8Druid

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I have a fair bit of 40v kit and its all good plenty of power. We have 1 bit of 80v which is a strimmer and can get round half a 1acre paddock on 2 4ah batteries. I love the look of the disc cutter and breakers, the only thing id say about the disc cutter is in the videos ive watched it does look very bulky. Hilti now have a very nice looking battery disc cutter but is blady expensive as hilti always is.
it looks HUGE in the pix on the website link :oops:
 
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6feetdown

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I liked the look of the milwaukee 1 but at around 2k went for 300mm evolution 115mm cut depth with water suppression. Most of our work we have access to power so yeah a lead is a pain but the time saving will more than compensate for that
 
diggerjones

diggerjones

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I'm in the market for a new battery disc cutter, any recommendations?

I have a TS410 already, but fed up with the noise and fumes in confined spaces. It gets used a lot for cutting into existing clay drainage for new connections, no fun at all being in manhole/trench get blasted with 2 stroke exhaust.

It also won't cut 4" salt glaze in 1 hit - thought about going up to TS420 to get more depth but same issue with fumes.

I'm after a small battery SDS max breaker to go alongside it too (for breaking concrete off pipes etc.) so I can do most drainage off battery rather than 110v and 2 stroke.

I have Makita 18v battery kit so in theory that would be the logical brand choice but just checked and the twin 18v cutter only goes to 230mm which is no real use to me, I rarely cut slabs/bricks. Might be used for rebar but that's it.

Anyone used the below tools?

Twin 40v cutter 350mm

Twin 40v SDS max roto hammer

Open to any suggestions

Cheers
For saltglaze i use this. No dust, smaller hole to dig. Dosent need fuel or recharging
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V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
It come with some other stuff from auction years ago. There's 1 for smaller pipes also. The 1 shown can do 2 or maybe 3 different size pipes. I used it the other day. Thats why its got oil on it. Some of the links were seized
those chain pipe cutters are pretty good, especially in tight spots ... with the wheels close together, you don't need a lot of movement to cover the full circumference of the pipe (y)
 
groundworker

groundworker

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I have a fair bit of 40v kit and its all good plenty of power. We have 1 bit of 80v which is a strimmer and can get round half a 1acre paddock on 2 4ah batteries. I love the look of the disc cutter and breakers, the only thing id say about the disc cutter is in the videos ive watched it does look very bulky. Hilti now have a very nice looking battery disc cutter but is blady expensive as hilti always is.
I think the builders I share a yard with have one of the disc cutters, I'll have to ask them for a borrow of it.

Does look big, means digging a bigger hole just to get the saw in which negates any time saving of cutting through in one hit 🤔
 
Giles

Giles

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I have an Ics concrete chainsaw 18” bar can plunge cut big pip from above, mine 2 strike but they do a hydraulic one. Can get a blade for ducting metal as well for ductile pipe etc
 
groundworker

groundworker

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My thoughts on it after using it briefly yesterday.

It's awesome picking it up and having the power there without need to pull start or top up juice. Lack of fumes and noise is great especially indoors.

It's a very heavy tool but actually holding it up to cut out brickwork wasn't as bad as expected, the reduced vibes definitely mean you're not working as hard.

It had plenty of power going through soft brick and render. Also tried it cutting through some hard concrete in the yard and it flew through that too (new blade on there but unknown brand).

Some nice touches like the LED work light and wheels on the bottom (helps when holding up against wall as you can just push it with your bodyweight). Water suppression was very good. The guard is a lot looser than on my Stihl saw and almost 'auto-adjusts' to suit whatever angle you're cutting. Guard also swings almost underneath the blade so you can get in tight to wall.

Niggles - the safety release for the trigger is only on the left hand side so if you're a leftie like me or using left hand due to working in a corner it's fiddly to release the safety and pull trigger. It's hampered by the side handles making it hard to get into corners but I would say it's actually better than the Stihl (can get within 100-130mm depending on which side you're against).

Big niggle is going to be battery life. Look at the photo of the cuts in the concrete wall - the wall is only 450 high - that stint took it from 4 bars to totally dead, maybe 1m of cutting concrete at full depth - and it wasn't struggling to cut either. Think these are 5ah batts.

For me it's strengths would be as an indoor saw for builders doing knock throughs - it will whizz through a skin of brickwork including thick render no problem. The weight is not a massive issue because it's takes under a minute per cut. It would be useful for cutting paving but would be hard work on the back bending over with it all day.

But for cutting out tarmac/concrete slabs you'd be burning through batteries faster than you can charge them. Looks like the batteries go up to 8ah which would buy some extra time but at 200 quid a go, if you've got 4 batteries you've spent enough to buy a petrol saw easily.

For what I had in mind (cutting clay drainage insitu in one hit) it's not worth it. Slightly deeper cut than current saw but won't do salt glaze in one shot. Lack of fumes and noise is great but I'm not going to spend nigh on 2k (saw + batts) to achieve it and then get other work (cutting slabs) done slower.

Maybe the next generation will be better, or even a significantly cheaper 300mm cutter would replace the Stihl for light use without breaking the bank.

I haven't had a look at the video review posted above, will watch when I get 5 and see how the other brands do.
 

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doobin

doobin

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My thoughts on it after using it briefly yesterday.

It's awesome picking it up and having the power there without need to pull start or top up juice. Lack of fumes and noise is great especially indoors.

It's a very heavy tool but actually holding it up to cut out brickwork wasn't as bad as expected, the reduced vibes definitely mean you're not working as hard.

It had plenty of power going through soft brick and render. Also tried it cutting through some hard concrete in the yard and it flew through that too (new blade on there but unknown brand).

Some nice touches like the LED work light and wheels on the bottom (helps when holding up against wall as you can just push it with your bodyweight). Water suppression was very good. The guard is a lot looser than on my Stihl saw and almost 'auto-adjusts' to suit whatever angle you're cutting. Guard also swings almost underneath the blade so you can get in tight to wall.

Niggles - the safety release for the trigger is only on the left hand side so if you're a leftie like me or using left hand due to working in a corner it's fiddly to release the safety and pull trigger. It's hampered by the side handles making it hard to get into corners but I would say it's actually better than the Stihl (can get within 100-130mm depending on which side you're against).

Big niggle is going to be battery life. Look at the photo of the cuts in the concrete wall - the wall is only 450 high - that stint took it from 4 bars to totally dead, maybe 1m of cutting concrete at full depth - and it wasn't struggling to cut either. Think these are 5ah batts.

For me it's strengths would be as an indoor saw for builders doing knock throughs - it will whizz through a skin of brickwork including thick render no problem. The weight is not a massive issue because it's takes under a minute per cut. It would be useful for cutting paving but would be hard work on the back bending over with it all day.

But for cutting out tarmac/concrete slabs you'd be burning through batteries faster than you can charge them. Looks like the batteries go up to 8ah which would buy some extra time but at 200 quid a go, if you've got 4 batteries you've spent enough to buy a petrol saw easily.

For what I had in mind (cutting clay drainage insitu in one hit) it's not worth it. Slightly deeper cut than current saw but won't do salt glaze in one shot. Lack of fumes and noise is great but I'm not going to spend nigh on 2k (saw + batts) to achieve it and then get other work (cutting slabs) done slower.

Maybe the next generation will be better, or even a significantly cheaper 300mm cutter would replace the Stihl for light use without breaking the bank.

I haven't had a look at the video review posted above, will watch when I get 5 and see how the other brands do.
For internal work Evoloution have a mains powered one- no idea how good it is though.
 
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Smiffy

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If you want something lite what about the 9in version. I believe it has a deeper cut than a 300mm Stihl.
And friendlier on the pocket than the big one
 
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6feetdown

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For internal work Evoloution have a mains powered one- no idea how good it is though.
I bought 1 and its great, although because of the European Union I guess the motor is not under powered but definitely would be improved with a bit more umph. Water suppression is great there a vac port too and the diamond blade cut well too
 
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