The 'Today's Job' thread

[DaveDCB]

Well put. I draw the line at not using safety netting on Agri/commercial roofing.. it’s just cutting corners and back pocketing the £1k It costs!

 

[Jimoz]

Fk me im knackered. 40 hour shift.

The missus isn’t feeling too great either, poor lass. Really been through the mill.

Still, at least I now have a genuine reason to buy a remote control scale mining excavator. He can help her dig the veg patch in a few years!

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Congratulations! Hope both are doing well.

 

[Jimoz]

Calculated tank outlet invert to 200mm up in the ditch and it worked out at 2.6degres (1:38) over a 65meter run. Only upped pipe to a 6” as it will take two buildings treatment tanks and top water - could of got away with a 4” but rather no come back as it’s a fair area with garages and driveways added in too.

Don’t think there is such thing as a ‘safe’ depth.. but 900mm is acceptable , but still hurts if it falls on you! Anything over that and it’s benched/ battered back. I’d normally batter but need tilty for that

I have some pics of me in a trench of 2+m deep when I was young and stupider! I literally didn't know any better. Had a proper firm in doing the excavation and their machine driver hopped in the trench to clean out a corner or something so I did the same when I needed to bang some pegs in. The driver is a great op tbf very neat have used them since. Maybe he looked at the ground and in all his years of experience decided it looked ok? Obviously I know better now.

 

[Jimoz]

Ripped horrible ally shopfront out Thursday and fitting this atm. Council and historic England giving grants to get all the fronts back original style on these streets. The guy im working for came out yesterday moaning that I wasn't using the full handrail on the scaffold, the bits bottom right photo. Im trying to cut a 3.6m bit of hardwood, scribed into the stone detailing each side. How the f**k are you supposed to do that if you're boxed in on all 4 sides . He's okay ive worked for him 20 years on and off. Hes a bit more nervy since he had a guy fall off one of these about this height a few years ago. Was in coma for 3 months will never work again. Guy was approaching retirement but still not good. Had payout recently over a million quid. We didnt see it happen I was in another room and called 999 when they ran in to tell me. Out theory is he banged his head on a rsj above him causing him to loose consciousness or get dizzy and fall off head first banging his head unprotected. Needless to say I had the old lid on my head this week when ripping out. Bennys one we did late last year.

 

[Stroppymonkey]

I have some pics of me in a trench of 2+m deep when I was young and stupider! I literally didn't know any better. Had a proper firm in doing the excavation and their machine driver hopped in the trench to clean out a corner or something so I did the same when I needed to bang some pegs in. The driver is a great op tbf very neat have used them since. Maybe he looked at the ground and in all his years of experience decided it looked ok? Obviously I know better now.

It’s easy to get carried away doing stupid s**t and then look back and think why?

 

[Smiffy]

Trouble is we have about five tiers of construction safety in the UK ranging from Tier 1 contractor insanity with zero harm proclamations and pretending to tier 5 DIY scaffold.

Personally I sit on tier 3/2 borderline..... Shed building tends to be tier 4 as with agriculture, with safety very much being the sole preserve of experience rather than systems.

We place too much faith in using boxes in this country and not enough on geotechnical understanding...... Boxes are great in the right ground.

I don't think many people from smaller companies have an understanding of temporary works requirements and procedures. Even alot of tier 1 companies fall short on temporary works, and realistically they have made it far to complicated for small companies to follow.

 

[DaveDCB]

It’s easy to get carried away doing stupid s**t and then look back and think why?

Yup, been there done that, survived..3m+ drain connection, felt uneasy before doing it but young and stupid, so cracked on. Didn’t sleep for a week afterwards thankfully that was enough to make me see sense!

 

[Jimoz]

Has anyone come up with a way to pin the clayboard to the trench without getting in there? I used camping tent pegs. Fortunately not had to do it since. I think building regs and silly foundation depths for some poxy conifers have a lot to answer for with this.

 

[groundworker]

I used to do loads of sketchy s**t when I was young and working for a small building firm, mainly around working at height, but even then I had had it drummed into me that deep trenches are dangerous.

When I started in groundworks this was one of my first jobs, deep footings in made up sandy loose crap ground. Boss had men going in holes 3m deep to bottom out without a care in the world. None of them could get their head round how dangerous it was even after watching these holes collapse as they were being dug!

 

[Smiffy]

Has anyone come up with a way to pin the clayboard to the trench without getting in there? I used camping tent pegs. Fortunately not had to do it since. I think building regs and silly foundation depths for some poxy conifers have a lot to answer for with this.

Get a sheet of dpm and line the trench with it and put the clay board behind it. Bit wasteful but only safe way of doing it.

 

[DaveDCB]

Has anyone come up with a way to pin the clayboard to the trench without getting in there? I used camping tent pegs. Fortunately not had to do it since. I think building regs and silly foundation depths for some poxy conifers have a lot to answer for with this.

Always thought you tucked abit in the top after the conc has been poured

 

[JD450A]

I don't think many people from smaller companies have an understanding of temporary works requirements and procedures. Even alot of tier 1 companies fall short on temporary works, and realistically they have made it far to complicated for small companies to follow.

Definitely.

And the complexity and, quite frankly, deliberate gatekeeping of safe working systems does'nt help.... Classic example is timber shoring, safe, effective and well proven.