Takeuchi advice, Tb216 vs Tb219

[doobin]

Just need someone on here's accountant

All fine unless you get investigated, which isn't likely to be fair.

 

[Storrsy]

The best thing about Takeuchi is surely the paint job?

 

[Storrsy]

Just shows if you want quality then expect to paint for it.

 

[pettsy]

The old “10 gallon refurb”

 

[Giles]

The old “10 gallon refurb”

There’s a kubota micro on market place thought oh looks clean, clicked on thumbnail wrong blue on the blue bits and painted over rust on the orange bits

 

[Storrsy]

The old “10 gallon refurb”

I’m the guessing the guy wanted a Takeuchi and this was the only way he could get close to it.

 

[Storrsy]

Had anyone on here spent much time on a Tak TB225 out of interest?

I’m torn over whether I like the idea of them or not…

 

[doobin]

Had anyone on here spent much time on a Tak TB225 out of interest?

I’m torn over whether I like the idea of them or not…

Expanding tracks seem a bit pointless, doesn’t go down to 1m but limits ground clearance.

 

[Storrsy]

Expanding tracks seem a bit pointless, doesn’t go down to 1m but limits ground clearance.

Yeah that’s my thinking too. It’s just the current job I’m on the TB225 would have be perfect. But then 90% of the rest of time the expanding tracks would be pointless. I’m fairness I rarely get a job for the TB216 where I need to put the tracks in. The main benefit of the TB225 is the weight. Comfortably towable and can take a few attachments too.

 

[GazCro]

Had anyone on here spent much time on a Tak TB225 out of interest?

I’m torn over whether I like the idea of them or not…

You could argue they are the only 2.5 ton class machine you can comfortably tow within weight and with a few buckets as well. Trouble is I see they are in between weights size wise. They neither narrow down enough to replace a 1.5 tonner or have the reach of other 2.5 tonners. They are high spec hydraulics wise i think as standard so if you're wanting a smaller machine for running various attachments they could be the one. Personally i think they are a bit specific and not cheap.

 

[Storrsy]

You could argue they are the only 2.5 ton class machine you can comfortably tow within weight and with a few buckets as well. Trouble is I see they are in between weights size wise. They neither narrow down enough to replace a 1.5 tonner or have the reach of other 2.5 tonners. They are high spec hydraulics wise i think as standard so if you're wanting a smaller machine for running various attachments they could be the one. Personally i think they are a bit specific and not cheap.

Yeah could be right. I suppose I’m thinking along the line of if I had to have one sub 2.8t machine it could be the middle ground. I rarely need narrow access except for the odd footpath resurfacing job. I think as @Monkeybusiness eloquently demonstrated the other day- those of use running 2.8t are basically running overweight all the time and regardless of whether you care about the legalities it always feels a bit cruel to the tow vehicle- plus generally means a seperate trip for attachments.
Id like to sell all my machines really and have a right reshuffle. Instead of having 3, just have one 8-10 tonner for the longer term jobs and one sub 2.8t for the jobbing work.

 

[Storrsy]

Interestingly on paper at least the TB225 doesn’t seem to gain much in the way of lift capacity over t he TB219.

 

[Smiffy]

Would the cat 302 be a viable option
I think that goes down to 1m but is still beefier than most sub 2t machines

 

[GazCro]

Yeah could be right. I suppose I’m thinking along the line of if I had to have one sub 2.8t machine it could be the middle ground. I rarely need narrow access except for the odd footpath resurfacing job. I think as @Monkeybusiness eloquently demonstrated the other day- those of use running 2.8t are basically running overweight all the time and regardless of whether you care about the legalities it always feels a bit cruel to the tow vehicle- plus generally means a seperate trip for attachments.
Id like to sell all my machines really and have a right reshuffle. Instead of having 3, just have one 8-10 tonner for the longer term jobs and one sub 2.8t for the jobbing work.

Always gonna be a compromise when you're trying to cover all bases up to 8 ton, small weight differences make big productivity differences in the mini/ midi categories

 

[Storrsy]

Would the cat 302 be a viable option
I think that goes down to 1m but is still beefier than most sub 2t machines

Indeed- there’s also the yanmar sv22 too. Again a bit of a strange machine- basically a 1.8t plonked on a 2.5t undercarriage (no retracting tracks,) so your going to be limited in width but never really have the same power as equivalent 2.5 tonner.

 

[Smiffy]

Indeed- there’s also the yanmar sv22 too. Again a bit of a strange machine- basically a 1.8t plonked on a 2.5t undercarriage (no retracting tracks,) so your going to be limited in width but never really have the same power as equivalent 2.5 tonner.

Kobelcos do one like that to but I though pointless to mention as what's the point in having lower performance without the expanding tracks
Kato had expanding tracks as an option on there 2.6t machine aswell

 

[JD450A]

@Storrsy Remember me when the 125 goes.....

 

[Brendan]

@Storrsy Remember me when the 125 goes.....

Aren't the 125 nearer to 2.9t?

Have seen a few people before comment that the new 225 is closer to a 2t than the rest of the 2.5t class

 

[GazCro]

Aren't the 125 nearer to 2.9t?

Have seen a few people before comment that the new 225 is closer to a 2t than the rest of the 2.5t class

Trouble you've got is the rest of the 2.5 ton class was at one time close but within towing weight until majority of buyers wanted higher spec machines. The higher spec combination of better hydraulics extra lines longer dipper more counterweight aircon etc has pushed them to and beyond the limit. Taki 230 perfect example, uk spec is longer dipper and max counterweight pushing it to be realistically too heavy to tow. There probably is a lower spec version which is 200 kilos lighter but nobody would buy it if they brought it here.

 

[doobin]

I don't have any issues legally transporting my E27. The Iveco Daily tipper is a great tow bus, and plenty of space even for things like the grading beam. Payload around 900kg so plenty of buckets, grab and ripper. It has a nice low 1st gear which is brilliant for towing. The Ifor GH1054BT was a fantastic purchase- just big enough for every machine I have save the 3t dumper, and a payload of 2840kgs. So perfect for the E27, the multione 8.4 fits on it quite happily with a grab or 4 in 1 bucket on it, and I even manage to squeeze my Kubota B2530 with mid mount and rear collector or flail collector on by reversing and using the bucket rest forwhatever is on the linkage. Just have to take the side hose off if the mid mount and collector are on it. The tie down points and side step are great too, make lashing down a pleasure rather than a chore.

I'd never want to go less than a full fat 2.7t machine unless I needed the compactness of a 1.9t. I'd say that goes doubly for doing the sort of work you do. Perhaps review your transport arrangements instead?