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Stroppymonkey
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Crivet perhaps ? Lidl brand?
Canal Navvy
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The really expensive part of the Original Chanel no. 5 was scraped out of the anal glands of a living Civet, calling it musk made it less objectionable apparently
Canal Navvy
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The really expensive part of the Original Chanel no. 5 was scraped out of the anal glands of a living Civet, calling it musk made it less objectionable apparently
Oops ...... a bit of research suggests that musk is found halfway between the anus and the sexual organs
Bob
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https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/58-04/0192/230192.pdf
When this bill get past the house of commons on Jan 24 and I cant see how a lot of people who own there own house will be able to pay for the heat pumps and all the other work to make them heat there home which will be made compulsory
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Smiffy
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I can't find anything on Google about a ban on gas boilers in existing homes. Infact the only article I can find is one by the mirror about labour reversing a potential 2035 ban on the sale of gas boilers.
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6feetdown
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This was when this was 1st being touted. Don't forget they will bury this s**t deep in the documents and unless someone is good enough to read through them by the time it comes out a lot of the time it's too late
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Smiffy
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Someone somewhere will read it and they will all squabble over it in parliament. Not saying anyone will stop it, but we are so well conditioned now that we just accept it.
Although insisting on heat pumps in every house any time soon would completely bankrupt the country. All housing stock over 20 years old would need tens of thousands of pounds worth of work doing. And whilst they like the idea of digging the blade in deeper. To much of our economy is based on house prices.
They ultimately need to juggle the changeover period so that there is a smooth adoption period.
craig
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What are air source heat pumps like in sub zero conditions? Last week daytime temps didn't get above zero all week, would they still work or would you need an addition heat source for these times?
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
well they could try ------ to get past my gate ... would be a case of three little words - last one being off
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Stroppymonkey
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Decent set up ASHP will provide full heating at below freezing. Design depends on where you are . We design down to -4c down here in the far southwest but in more northerly counties the minimum external design temp can be lower.
Nothing wrong with ASHP and it should have been the only thing fitted in new houses for last 10 years at least, but big house builders would make less money and they have too much lobbying power.
Forcing low temp heating systems into existing older dwellings is not a good use of resources .
TiltyShaun
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I like your last sentence of realism.
I have worked with several self builders that have gone down the route of high insulation and low heat input. The happiest is the guy with ground source heat pump as he still gets a warm feed into the heat pump when it -5 outside. Met one client on Saturday who is installing a battery pack to run his heat pump from cheaper overnight electric during the day. Got to do some sums to see if overnight electric will save us much money.
I do love your swimming pool heat pump as we wise it when it is warm and we have 4kw of solar on the roof to help offset its consumption.
Lancs Lad
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Crap...in a Hodge podged 1920s bungalow .
But I'm going to get a guru to have a look as I've just been passed details of a guy who knows his stuff I'm convinced mines not setup right.
U'floor works ok on its own , when rads kick in they both drop off. Empty the hot tank and heating goes off etc. 32kw hp . But TBF that was sustained well bellow -5c last week or two.
Failing that I'm going to rip it out once RHI finishes and stick big oil burner back in whilst I still can
12kw stove goes full chat ATM.
craig
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Thanks @Stroppymonkey and @Lancs Lad
I heard ground source works OK, but didn't know about air source, a neighbor had a new build with it, but I noticed smoke coming out the chimney as well, so wondered how good it was.
With out the log stove they would of been cold when the electric was off as well.
An other neighboring place had some kind of improvement grant had had it fitted and externally insulated, but still running the original radiators, that doesn't seem that warm and they have to supplement with open fires.
I heard ground source works OK, but didn't know about air source, a neighbor had a new build with it, but I noticed smoke coming out the chimney as well, so wondered how good it was.
With out the log stove they would of been cold when the electric was off as well.
An other neighboring place had some kind of improvement grant had had it fitted and externally insulated, but still running the original radiators, that doesn't seem that warm and they have to supplement with open fires.
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6feetdown
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We did a big extension 2 years ago and think there's works well with battery storage from solar. Will see them in a few weeks and ask how it is going after 2 winters with it
pettsy
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Maybe I’m slightly biased
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
don't forget their kero brethren
Bob
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We have lined the outside of older bungalows with celotex , boarded and skimmed was lucky it had a big roof overhang so didnt need to touch the roofCrap...in a Hodge podged 1920s bungalow .
But I'm going to get a guru to have a look as I've just been passed details of a guy who knows his stuff I'm convinced mines not setup right.
U'floor works ok on its own , when rads kick in they both drop off. Empty the hot tank and heating goes off etc. 32kw hp . But TBF that was sustained well bellow -5c last week or two.
Failing that I'm going to rip it out once RHI finishes and stick big oil burner back in whilst I still can
12kw stove goes full chat ATM.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
want their heads feeling .... they've already dragged one outfit down ... no one else to blame but management
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