Slipped discs and other back dramas.

[Storrsy]

Well scientifically I don't think it's working for you......

Booked Nick yet?

Hard to tell. Being a glass half full kind of person Id like to thing if it hadn't been for the turmeric curries I'd be in a wheelchair by now
Back feels a hell of a lot better today, so will see how the next few days goes I think.

 

[Regy53]

Im 38 and have degenerative disc disease….

Aged around 18 i worked for a motor factors and one day needed to move around 40 battery’s from one pallet to another, did so with ease but the next morning i was ruined. Had time of got sent around had a X-ray, back was in spasm. Anyway doctors really didn’t want to do anything told me to bulk up and il be fine. Throughout the next 18 years i battled a horrible back, aching at night, limited with what i could do, etc. Was taking painkillers (co codomols etc) doctors just brushing it of. My current doctor actually sent me for a MRI and it transpires i need a operation. Two discs removed, two titanium cages put in place and some titanium screws to fuse them together.

Degenerative disc disease isn’t a disease but in show the discs basically degenerate because of damage that goes untreated…… so really back when i was 18 i should have been sorted and doctors painkiller nation has caused it to get to this stage .

I really want to push an op of for a few years but its getting less likely month by month… I take Tramadol daily and still end up ruined. It’s really starting to push into leg pain too which is horrible ( the discs are also bulging ) and while i have suffered with this for years it is getting worse. My view is to get an op but i will look to go private, instead of fusion they can fit ball bearing type discs to allow movement still rather than being locked together.

I do not envy anybody with a bad back, its a silent pain that unless you have it it is horrendous. I watch people do sports such as football etc and it amazes me how what you can do if your fit and able. Sometimes i feel disabled.

 

[JerryRtilt]

Im 38 and have degenerative disc disease….

Aged around 18 i worked for a motor factors and one day needed to move around 40 battery’s from one pallet to another, did so with ease but the next morning i was ruined. Had time of got sent around had a X-ray, back was in spasm. Anyway doctors really didn’t want to do anything told me to bulk up and il be fine. Throughout the next 18 years i battled a horrible back, aching at night, limited with what i could do, etc. Was taking painkillers (co codomols etc) doctors just brushing it of. My current doctor actually sent me for a MRI and it transpires i need a operation. Two discs removed, two titanium cages put in place and some titanium screws to fuse them together.

Degenerative disc disease isn’t a disease but in show the discs basically degenerate because of damage that goes untreated…… so really back when i was 18 i should have been sorted and doctors painkiller nation has caused it to get to this stage .

I really want to push an op of for a few years but its getting less likely month by month… I take Tramadol daily and still end up ruined. It’s really starting to push into leg pain too which is horrible ( the discs are also bulging ) and while i have suffered with this for years it is getting worse. My view is to get an op but i will look to go private, instead of fusion they can fit ball bearing type discs to allow movement still rather than being locked together.

I do not envy anybody with a bad back, its a silent pain that unless you have it it is horrendous. I watch people do sports such as football etc and it amazes me how what you can do if your fit and able. Sometimes i feel disabled.

That sounds terrible, Sciatic pain down the leg is relentless and draining, i know. I'm 63 and long ago came to the conclusion Doctors and back pain is just about a waste of time, as you say its a silent pain and they can't see either.
I'll never proof it but i believe my troubles were probably started by spending far too much time bouncing around in my dads early Land Rovers on the horrendous bench seats in the back while twisting to see where we were going. That and a life time of groundwork, i only have to look at a shovel nowadays a i have pain.
I have a Osteopath i see every 3/4 weeks, he's a ex stone mason believe it or not, been to numerous Chiropractors and Osteopaths over the years and find they all start with good intensions but when you go regularly as a maintenance measure over time they loose interest and start to just go through the motions although the current one is still determined to help and has achieved more than any other, ironically he a big Land Rover nut as well.

 

[Storrsy]

That sounds terrible, Sciatic pain down the leg is relentless and draining, i know. I'm 63 and long ago came to the conclusion Doctors and back pain is just about a waste of time, as you say its a silent pain and they can't see either.
I'll never proof it but i believe my troubles were probably started by spending far too much time bouncing around in my dads early Land Rovers on the horrendous bench seats in the back while twisting to see where we were going. That and a life time of groundwork, i only have to look at a shovel nowadays a i have pain.
I have a Osteopath i see every 3/4 weeks, he's a ex stone mason believe it or not, been to numerous Chiropractors and Osteopaths over the years and find they all start with good intensions but when you go regularly as a maintenance measure over time they loose interest and start to just go through the motions although the current one is still determined to help and has achieved more than any other, ironically he a big Land Rover nut as well.

Totally agree with all this. Chiropractor was great the first few sessions and made a big improvement, but now it feels like it's just treatment for the sake of it. Also the same regarding doctors. I don't want to take painkillers because ultimately pain is trying to tell you something, no point masking the pain and making it worse. Machines are bloody awful for backs. Was riddling stone the other day and thought this is terrible for the back. @Regy53 sorry to hear this- that sounds a rough deal for something that happened when you were 18. I'm surprised a one of occasion had such a lasting impact. I do think strength and conditioning of the back and actually any muscles is worth doing, tbh given I've spent the last 18 years shovelling and lifting rock I'm surprised I've even lasted this long but I will say it was an awkward hillside job in the machine that put it out in the first case 3 years ago not lifting rock.

 

[Regy53]

What amazes me is i for example this week shovelled some wet slop road Plainings into a bucket, probably spent 10 mins with a shovel and I couldn’t twist etc i could barley do 10 mins, yet my uncle who works for me is 53 and could do it all day (within reason) it really shows how limiting it is and how people with bad backs just accept there disability. It does almost render you disabled.

I do chiropractor and used to go weekly, but as above it helps on the day but soon disappears. I not dont do it for 6 months then do 5-6 sessions then do another few months as i dont feel you get the benefit. One thing that has helped is one of them massage guns you can get to free up muscle spasms .. that really helps the legs and lower back. Generally use it daily in the evening. But again can go without for a few weeks..

When i went to New York i was walking 25000 steps a day and actually did ok sometimes you do need to work it

 

[Storrsy]

That sounds terrible, Sciatic pain down the leg is relentless and draining, i know. I'm 63 and long ago came to the conclusion Doctors and back pain is just about a waste of time, as you say its a silent pain and they can't see either.
I'll never proof it but i believe my troubles were probably started by spending far too much time bouncing around in my dads early Land Rovers on the horrendous bench seats in the back while twisting to see where we were going. That and a life time of groundwork, i only have to look at a shovel nowadays a i have pain.
I have a Osteopath i see every 3/4 weeks, he's a ex stone mason believe it or not, been to numerous Chiropractors and Osteopaths over the years and find they all start with good intensions but when you go regularly as a maintenance measure over time they loose interest and start to just go through the motions although the current one is still determined to help and has achieved more than any other, ironically he a big Land Rover nut as well.

The best osteopath is a landrover nut- they never give up trying to fix the problems

 

[JerryRtilt]

Totally agree with all this. Chiropractor was great the first few sessions and made a big improvement, but now it feels like it's just treatment for the sake of it. Also the same regarding doctors. I don't want to take painkillers because ultimately pain is trying to tell you something, no point masking the pain and making it worse. Machines are bloody awful for backs. Was riddling stone the other day and thought this is terrible for the back. @Regy53 sorry to hear this- that sounds a rough deal for something that happened when you were 18. I'm surprised a one of occasion had such a lasting impact. I do think strength and conditioning of the back and actually any muscles is worth doing, tbh given I've spent the last 18 years shovelling and lifting rock I'm surprised I've even lasted this long but I will say it was an awkward hillside job in the machine that put it out in the first case 3 years ago not lifting rock.

Doing a awkward job with a machine is terrible when you are bracing yourself to keep steady and still work accurately, so easy to become all tensed up without realising it and then impossible to relax, which i find is when the massage tool really helps and why i gave up with the Tilty on a zero swing machine as the noddy affect became a major problem.

The best osteopath is a landrover nut- they never give up trying to fix the problems

I'd never thought of it like that but your absolutely right, petty he can't fit me with a nice new galvanised chassis

 

[DaveDCB]

One thing my osteopath told me was to get my core as strong as possible, help keep everything straight and supported.. ended up doing 100 push-ups and sit-ups every night plus 3 times a week on mountain bike , really did help! Then I got married……….

 

[Furniss]

One thing my osteopath told me was to get my core as strong as possible, help keep everything straight and supported.. ended up doing 100 push-ups and sit-ups every night plus 3 times a week on mountain bike , really did help! Then I got married……….

And ?

 

[Storrsy]

And ?

...turned to beer.

 

[Giles]

I’ve started on turmeric, about a month in now. knees feel ‘odd’ like something is happening to them, wouldn’t say it’s fixing them yet though.. mine are really clunky and one has a horrible sharp pressure point in it, kneel down on it wrong and it feels like you’ve knelt on a nail!

Been there had that pain went private after nhs offered me a physio appointment in 35 years and only a phone call at that.

It’ll be

Bursitis

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Only place topical ibuprofen cream actually works

 

[Giles]

Not sure tbf I tried turmeric tea a year ago but think I made it wrong, wasn't nice

Few years ago I went out with a yoga teacher for a bit, threw myself at her lifestyle and gave up caffeine and alcohol and had turmeric tea instead of coffee the twinnings one with apple is nicest or the pukka one. Yoga every morning and plenty of exercise in the evenings and felt great and lost loads of weight. Till we split up and went on bender on coffee and booze and old habits.

Knees creak like an old oak tree in the wind currently

 

[Vinpetrol]

Few years ago I went out with a yoga teacher for a bit, threw myself at her lifestyle and gave up caffeine and alcohol and had turmeric tea instead of coffee the twinnings one with apple is nicest or the pukka one. Yoga every morning and plenty of exercise in the evenings and felt great and lost loads of weight. Till we split up and went on bender on coffee and booze and old habits.

Knees creak like an old oak tree in the wind currently

You’ve done too much yoga in your past .