Routy56 - can you just....

[Routy56]

Monday and Tuesday was on an old WW2 Airfield doing test holes/trenches looking for the old drainage system.
This was installed by the Americans in 1942 and site owner wanted to locate the drainage for his new units.
My business contact/friend runs a large grain storage empire.
"I want you do do it Dave because you are careful and methodical"

Grain storage unit in an old hangar in background.
An old plan showed a drain coming across the yard and off the corner under the grass.......

So in this corner went about 2 feet deeper than where I expected it to be - nothing
Looking for an 18" pipe covered in concrete should be easy.
I could see what we assumed was other 18" pipes about 50yds and 100yds across the yard.
BUT access could be gained at only one location. AND couldn't get rods with Sonde up it due to silt and crap

So took the test hole right round the concrete yard......

.....and all I found was the old Communications Ducts

So my friend then says, "OK can you now find the old French Drains beside the old runway?"

"Found it!" - about 2'6" of stone over a nice 6" clay pipe.

So with all these, can you just find this that and the other and various locations, he said, "How long do you need to fill it all in again?"
"At least 2 or 3 hours mate" - for that read about an hour or so at the end of a long day
Fortunately, my friend, was not bothered about the finish because it will soon be turned into a building site.

The old map used was a printout from "Landmark Information" showing "Und Ward Bdy" as the assumed course of the pipes.
Obviously not. I even used Google Earth Pro to roll back the years and look for crop marks to no avail

The final outfall was nearly a mile away across the fields.....

.....and came out with a hoofing great big 3' concrete pipe

Recommended that he gets some drainage experts to do a camera inspection of the course of the old concrete pipes.
Something tells me that I'll be back at this site in the near future

 

[V8Druid]

you won't better the Rimula X @Routy56 ... has always exceeded the spec.s of most oils out there ... have run it for decades

 

[Routy56]

you won't better the Rimula X @Routy56 ... has always exceeded the spec.s of most oils out there ... have run it for decades

Thanks for the vote of confidence Gra
I knew that you would approve having made supportive noises in the past
Have good a good supply of Rimula 4X - only wish it was suitable to modern cars in our families fleet
So currently using it in:
Hyster H50H FLT
Neuson 1503 RD mini with Yanmar engine
Benford HD850 dumper with Kabota engine
Iseki SXG19 mower
Always change engine oil at least yearly or sooner if the hours come

 

[Routy56]

Finished off last week with another visit to the farmhouse new build just up the road.
This time it was to put the ducts for services under the foundations ring beam.
My plan was to simply use the back of the bucket to 'thrust bore' some 2" steel pipe under the foundations....
The builders that did it 'lost' the pipe during the concrete pour

Left one section of oversite open ready for me to do this on a dry day....

Got lucky and 'found' the 'lost' pipe very near to where it should have been.
One very pleased customer

Then Mark says, "Can you just bore another one beside it?"
All done and backfilled by tea break

So while I'm there he fills my day up with more 'Can you just' jobs around the Farm......."
It's actually a former WW2 Mine Depot with loads of interesting buildings.
Mark also collects many big boys toys and come in handys

Old Nuffield still in daily use

Kinghofer Clamshell that he's gonna dangle from an old Hiab that he has in the yard......

Shifting hardcore....

Did 3 x loads of this old crap
The building behind is the old mine paint shop. The low area in front of it is for the old railway siding.

Sheet piles.
Mark has an idea that my pecker can knock these in for sea defences

Erosion in our Estuary is evident......

And access to the site is down some steep cliffs where is it very overgrown.
So told Mark that my machine is too small for the job AND he needs a sheet pile knocker

 

[V8Druid]

Finished off last week with another visit to the farmhouse new build just up the road.
This time it was to put the ducts for services under the foundations ring beam.
My plan was to simply use the back of the bucket to 'thrust bore' some 2" steel pipe under the foundations....
The builders that did it 'lost' the pipe during the concrete pour

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Left one section of oversite open ready for me to do this on a dry day....

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Got lucky and 'found' the 'lost' pipe very near to where it should have been.
One very pleased customer

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Then Mark says, "Can you just bore another one beside it?"
All done and backfilled by tea break

So while I'm there he fills my day up with more 'Can you just' jobs around the Farm......."
It's actually a former WW2 Mine Depot with loads of interesting buildings.
Mark also collects many big boys toys and come in handys

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Old Nuffield still in daily use

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Kinghofer Clamshell that he's gonna dangle from an old Hiab that he has in the yard......

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Shifting hardcore....View attachment 23563
Did 3 x loads of this old crap
The building behind is the old mine paint shop. The low area in front of it is for the old railway siding.

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Sheet piles.
Mark has an idea that my pecker can knock these in for sea defences

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Erosion in our Estuary is evident......View attachment 23566
And access to the site is down some steep cliffs where is it very overgrown.
So told Mark that my machine is too small for the job AND he needs a sheet pile knocker

or a VERY tall bloke with a bloody big hammer
Kinns loading clam that .... little in the way of digging force, compared to a 604, but bigger capacity and great for loading loose off the floor

 

[Thomas7740]

Do building control allow you to take services etc below a foundation? Thats a big no no here

 

[fred]

Do building control allow you to take services etc below a foundation? Thats a big no no here

how else can you get the water in ?

 

[Flying Torquewrench]

Where we live BC doesn’t allow you to go under the foundation either.

Our water main comes up outside the property and is then drilled through the brickwork to the inside. An insulated stone pillar is constructed around the mains pipe to avoid it freezing up.

 

[fred]

building control haver never had an issue with it with us. standard practice 750 deep all the way to the inside of the walls.

best way no chance of freezing up.

punching holes through the building is an real no no these days.

 

[Smiffy]

Last one I did they want to see it running under the perimeter of the building 750 below finished ground level.
Won't connect water without seeing this

 

[fred]

yup exactly. severntrent dead picky.

Last one I did they want to see it running under the perimeter of the building 750 below finished ground level.
Won't connect water without seeing this

 

[bobthebuilder]

building control haver never had an issue with it with us. standard practice 750 deep all the way to the inside of the walls.

best way no chance of freezing up.

punching holes through the building is an real no no these days.

we always put a duct in ,push pipe in which is now 32mm mdpe

 

[Smiffy]

we always put a duct in ,push pipe in which is now 32mm mdpe

We also can't get a single dwelling connected to 32mm
Has to be 25mm
Duct is optional but the rules on ducting make it a lot of hassle to install

Easier to put pipe in first then work round it
Especially as strip foundations are 2-3m deep so can't tunnel under them anyway

 

[bobthebuilder]

We also can't get a single dwelling connected to 32mm
Has to be 25mm
Duct is optional but the rules on ducting make it a lot of hassle to install

Easier to put pipe in first then work round it
Especially as strip foundations are 2-3m deep so can't tunnel under them anyway

i see ,here in wales we now have to have sprinklers so 32mm is minimum depending on pressure and flow,
and we never get bothered at all ,try to bring it up where the utility room / plant room or where boiler is ,not always poss but do try

 

[Left hooker]

Do building control allow you to take services etc below a foundation? Thats a big no no here

Yes if a raft is poured directly on top of ring beam as no different to just raft on its own

 

[Routy56]

Do building control allow you to take services etc below a foundation? Thats a big no no here

Don’t know the answer to this one
But I’ll ask next time I’m on site...
Some may recall that this particular foundation is a ring beam on top of really deep piles
The depth of the ring beam pour is about 800 and the 150 pipe directly below this.
All of this was done before I arrived on site by experts way bone my pay grade

 

[T whiting]

Don’t know the answer to this one
But I’ll ask next time I’m on site...
Some may recall that this particular foundation is a ring beam on top of really deep piles
The depth of the ring beam pour is about 800 and the 150 pipe directly below this.
All of this was done before I arrived on site by experts way bone my pay grade

If it's a ring beam on piles it doesn't matter if you go under it as the beam is sat on the piles not on the ground to the point where I've fitted clay board (formwork with a colapsable cardboard bit) so the clay moving won't move the foundations.

Strip footings are different I normally run water tight over the footing in lagging from where it starts to come up to stop it freezing

 

[Flying Torquewrench]

punching holes through the building is an real no no these days.

This probably changes between authorities. The last new build in the village was build at the end of 2019 and that also has the water going in through the wall.

The soil in our area is almost purely clay with the added bonus of lots of trees in the county. Hence BC insists on deep foundations.

 

[fred]

same here. the water goes under or through the foundations always. The gas and electric dont as they terminate on the outside shell so dont need to.

 

[Thomas7740]

Here water is ducted through the subfloor, usually into the kitchen area. BT and Fibre is external up the wall. Electric box is recessed into wall and the duct goes into the cavity and up into the box. Foundations are never to be touched.

Standard foundations in our area are 30inch wide and a foot of concrete for cavity walls and 2ft wide and a foot of concrete for internal walls. 18 inches from ground to top of foundation for frost cover