Routy56 - can you just....

[T whiting]

I'd just take it down to a drain on the ground and not put it back into the house I'd also add a turndish I know I'd rather have a puddle in the house rather than no heating

 

[Routy56]

I'd just take it down to a drain on the ground and not put it back into the house I'd also add a turndish I know I'd rather have a puddle in the house rather than no heating

Yep that's a good idea and exactly what I did to my new oil boiler recently - had a gully nearby
However, I think that my options are limited at Laura's house - no convenient gully nearby.
Think that the real solution will be to drill a 'new' hole into the bathroom with the correct down slope
Then I'll probably box and insulate the whole lot - but only when the sun shines....
Just the job for a semi-retired dad

 

[fred]

Maybe put a collar on the soilpipe inside and drop it into that.

 

[T whiting]

If only you knew someone who knew about groundworks

I'd add one of those heated traces too if it's going to be running any distance outside.

Kerry's grandpearents went on holiday this time of year about 5 years ago to come back to a flooded house where the condensate had froze knocked the boiler off and a water pipe froze and burst .
I've always been a little weary of condensate pipes since

 

[Routy56]

Maybe put a collar on the soilpipe inside and drop it into that.

That’d be an option IF it’s nice plastic. All boxed in the corner of the bathroom and got a sneaky suspicion that it’s asbestos
Will investigate further soon ....

 

[Routy56]

If only you knew someone who knew about groundworks

I'd add one of those heated traces too if it's going to be running any distance outside.

Kerry's grandpearents went on holiday this time of year about 5 years ago to come back to a flooded house where the condensate had froze knocked the boiler off and a water pipe froze and burst .
I've always been a little weary of condensate pipes since

That’s a horror story not to be repeated
May have to do some drainage when I redo the driveway so new gulley may be the way to go
Mind you I like the idea of heated traces

 

[GazCro]

Trouble you have with condensate it's just a dribble so even with reasonable fall on a pipe if it's cold enough it will freeze. Running them outside was always an absolute last resort for me.

 

[pettsy]

Where to start...
That flue doesn’t look right to me, looks like standard efficiency one not condensing version?
Gas pipework doesn’t look like it’s sleeved through wall.
Condensate should have been enlarged before passing through wall.
What programmer is it wired to as that mechanical one doesn’t comply with “boiler plus”

Can you do a soak away temporarily?

 

[Routy56]

Where to start...
That flue doesn’t look right to me, looks like standard efficiency one not condensing version?
Gas pipework doesn’t look like it’s sleeved through wall.
Condensate should have been enlarged before passing through wall.
What programmer is it wired to as that mechanical one doesn’t comply with “boiler plus”

Can you do a soak away temporarily?

Thanks for your advice - really appreciate it and will look into the points you raise
Most importantly can confirm that the gas pipe IS sleeved
The previous house owner had the boiler installed a year or so ago.
Don’t think we got any documents with that but will check
Theres a programmer/thermostat in the hall and that crappy mechanical one is set to manual so not in use
Now its working - I’ll be back to sort it out for Laura
Thanks once again

 

[pettsy]

You Should have a gas safe building regulations certificate (assuming it wasn’t a cowboy who fitted it ) that in theory is needed when selling the house. If you ring gas safe they will tell you if it was registered. I actually fitted one of those locally a couple of years ago as someone needed a cheap working boiler to sell their house (usually only fit Worcester Bosch). Iirc they have 5yr warranty if serviced annually.

I’m pretty sure that flue is for a standard efficiency boiler (no longer allowed to be fitted), and has a metal internal flue section. Using this on a condensing boiler will mean the acidic condensate will rot the internal metal section out, then the external one! It would be worth checking as the consequences could be lethal!

I think this is the correct one...

 

[V8Druid]

very handy having a plumber on board @Routy56 Nice one @pettsy

 

[Routy56]

You Should have a gas safe building regulations certificate (assuming it wasn’t a cowboy who fitted it ) that in theory is needed when selling the house. If you ring gas safe they will tell you if it was registered. I actually fitted one of those locally a couple of years ago as someone needed a cheap working boiler to sell their house (usually only fit Worcester Bosch). Iirc they have 5yr warranty if serviced annually.

I’m pretty sure that flue is for a standard efficiency boiler (no longer allowed to be fitted), and has a metal internal flue section. Using this on a condensing boiler will mean the acidic condensate will rot the internal metal section out, then the external one! It would be worth checking as the consequences could be lethal!

I think this is the correct one...

Once again thanks Matt for the great advice - keep it coming buddy
Regarding the Building Regs Gas Safe Certificate, now I'm in the warm, have checked Laura's documents.
And yes there was a Gas Safe Certificate bundled with the solicitors stuff showing that the boiler was installed on 26/11/19
BUT a search on the Gas Safe Register now has alarm bells ringing - looks like the engineer/company are no longer registered

And the name of the engineer that did it pops up as a local on Facebook but the no longer shows up as being registered with Gas Safe.

It's good to know that you have installed a Vokera boiler instead of your preferred manufacturer - Worcseter Bosch.
So you are not second guessing stuff.
We use a local guy for our rental property and he only installs Baxi.
So we were reassured when he did a professional installation of a new Baxi boiler for us last year.
But he has no experience of the Vokera boilers and said so when I phoned him yesterday

The issue of the wrong flue is understood and will be addressed ASAP.
Thanks for showing me the correct plastic one.
The replacement will be installed by one of my other contacts who are Gas Safe AND I have done digger work for them
Regarding the replacement flue kit, I can get this in ready for the engineer to fit.
Do you have a preferred supplier? (Not Toolstation who sell the boilers and send out flue kits without the 90 bend!!)

So thanks for now - it's great that we have you on the forum to help with advice like this

 

[Routy56]

very handy having a plumber on board @Routy56 Nice one @pettsy

Ditto that Gra
Matthew's advice is invaluable.
I know my limitations where Gas Safe regulations are involved.
And he has identified a real safety risk (the wrong type of flue) stored up for the future which will be addressed ASAP
The thing is that in the last year I have done digger work for and with at least 2 local Gas Safe engineers which I'll be calling on to solve the issues identified.
The great thing about this forum is that we can help each other without the bullshit - friendly banter is OK

 

[pettsy]

@Routy56 i’ve just emailed a picture to Vokera technical to see what they say, I could be completely wrong but they will soon say wether it is suitable or not. Being honest I only fitted that one as it was a cheap deal from my supplier and the customer wasn’t bothered what was installed, I still prefer WB in every way

Happy to give my straightforward advice on anything I can help with, as I’ve also receieved from the forum

 

[V8Druid]

@Routy56 i’ve just emailed a picture to Vokera technical to see what they say, I could be completely wrong but they will soon say wether it is suitable or not. Being honest I only fitted that one as it was a cheap deal from my supplier and the customer wasn’t bothered what was installed, I still prefer WB in every way

Happy to give my straightforward advice on anything I can help with, as I’ve also receieved from the forum

happy to vouch for that too ... have had straightforward impartial advice from Matthew too on PMs ..... good to get it from folks who know their subjects and have real world experience on issues we are not familiar with

 

[pettsy]

Email back from technical dept....

Should be bottom “HE” version. Part number: 20132063

 

[V8Druid]

sounds like a conversation to be had with the legals who did the conveyance regarding previous owner's liability for the cost of bringing this up to an acceptable, saleable spec. then @Routy56 .... was it surveyed prior to purchase ? ... he may need his professional indemnity ins. if he didn't pick up on it

 

[fred]

it could have been he was registered at the time of install but has since lapsed ?

 

[V8Druid]

it could have been he was registered at the time of install but has since lapsed ?

even worse if he fitted the wrong flue and cert.ed it then

 

[fred]

would have thought a call to gas safe to check and they would send someone to sort it else what's the point in having them ?