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Monkeybusiness

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When I got mine I met them at plantworx when it was at the airfield many years ago, they had it and I had a go, rob told me I would do 300-400 posts a day in sensible ground (I was otterfencing at the time so going in 1.1m) I laughed at him and he told me he would come to my site and show me, rent it for a week and get the full hire cost off of the machine if I purchased.
true to his word he did, then went to an old quarry with ground so hard (gravel haul road) it was snapping the bottoms off of auger flights and he came out with the rock spike and again proved how good it was.
when kit is good it needs to be said as we always quick to say why stuff is s**t.
also had a tracked protech and an awesome machine it was but so much easier set up with the auto guide.
I stood a load of telegraph poles up and placed them into sockets when they were building Bewilderwood (a kids treehouse-theme park) during Covid. The builders drove posts below ground-level with a 3 tonne machine fitted with what I now realise was one of these attachments (they put a galvanised socket on the top of these posts to receive the telegraph poles, to help avoid rotting (but I don’t think it has worked!…)).
It was a very good piece of kit!
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DaveDCB

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Venturing off subject slightly.., does anyone use augers much? I’ve a considerable amount of security fence to put up and think augering the holes out is the way to go(beats hand dig).. Digbits have the Digga ones with levelling lights on them now which looks handy. Thinking 300mm for the posts?
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hiluxman

hiluxman

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Venturing off subject slightly.., does anyone use augers much? I’ve a considerable amount of security fence to put up and think augering the holes out is the way to go(beats hand dig).. Digbits have the Digga ones with levelling lights on them now which looks handy. Thinking 300mm for the posts?
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I've done a fair bit with the auger now. If find you can start of as plumb as you can but as soon as it hits a decent hard lump then that's it your holes out of line.

You won't need a 300mm flight for palisade fencing either 200mm works well.
 
Giles

Giles

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Those auto guides look good if doing river bank work etc not seen them before but used the vibrating pile hammers and there scarily good at sinking stuff

@DaveDCB augers are great I’ve had 1 15 years a digga and still going strong got full set of flights in 4,5,6,8,10, 12 and 30” there the important bit of and cat scan for utilities
 
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Steve

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I think you are pretty safe with either the Digga or Auger torque. Most difficult ground I find has 4” stones where the auger brings them nearly to the surface before they fall back in & push the auger off line.
 
Storrsy

Storrsy

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Not tried one of those augers with the levelling lights. I may consider one next time but the auger torque I have had for 13 years won't give up! If you get one @DaveDCB make sure you get a cradle hitch for it, so much nicer for traveling about with it and also for positioning. As for levelling when starting a hole i have it free hanging so that it starts of plumb and then just guage it off the flat bit of the top of the drive unit going in level. Generally get it pretty much straight on my own.
 
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Gunners

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I stood a load of telegraph poles up and placed them into sockets when they were building Bewilderwood (a kids treehouse-theme park) during Covid. The builders drove posts below ground-level with a 3 tonne machine fitted with what I now realise was one of these attachments (they put a galvanised socket on the top of these posts to receive the telegraph poles, to help avoid rotting (but I don’t think it has worked!…)).
It was a very good piece of kit!
I have serious treehouse envy not felt since I was 10 :LOL: !
Venturing off subject slightly.., does anyone use augers much? I’ve a considerable amount of security fence to put up and think augering the holes out is the way to go(beats hand dig).. Digbits have the Digga ones with levelling lights on them now which looks handy. Thinking 300mm for the posts?
I use my auger a few times a year. Makes light work of fencing, sign post errecting, pergolas, decking legs, litter bins, benches - basically anything that needs a round hole! I've also used some bigger flights for tree planting, but not sure the 600mm flight I have would work in the more rocky ground up north. It does struggle a bit down in the soft south, but go steady and it gets the job done.

Mine is also a Digga, PD3 - technically too big for the 1.5 tonner but works fine. Might be a little slower maybe but that doesn't stop it digging the hole. Lift height is more of an issue with the smaller machines than flow on augers - especially if you need to use the extension to go deeper than 7-800mm which is realistically all you'll get with a standard flight.
Get the cradle hitch - I regret not getting one.
And a 4" square post needs a 300mm flight or its too tight to get the last bit of straightening up done in the hole.
Sure, the HALO system does look good, but I struggle more with the Auger deflecting off rubble in the ground, or "walking" itself off target when you first start, than I do with it not being upright. On sloped ground or banks, you often have to angle the auger to dig into the slope first, then straighten up once you have a hole going or it just slides down the bank! You'll get the hang of it - its not hard.
I've drilled through tarmac with mine several times - works a treat! So they will work their way through anything if you give them enough time. A worthwhile attachment to have in the shed I think.

And a splitter cone works well on them too for breaking up tree stumps ;)
 

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Giles

Giles

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Not used my big 30” yet bought it for tree planting job but ended up just digging them Out as soil was solid clay so could not be re used

Hopefully come in one day

There’s a trick with mounting a 4” bit of steel off auger bracket and dangling chain then can work off a string line if you offset the string line 4"
 
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hiluxman

hiluxman

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So a p18+ has a 150kg weight, would it be worth getting the 180kg weight?...as said this is going on a 3.2t machine.

On the extras list it mentions 60mm rock spike and pins...what's that?

Don't forget I'm a knocker novice
 
doobin

doobin

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So a p18+ has a 150kg weight, would it be worth getting the 180kg weight?...as said this is going on a 3.2t machine.

On the extras list it mentions 60mm rock spike and pins...what's that?

Don't forget I'm a knocker novice
I'd go 180kg. However if you're in ground that you need a rock spike for, I'd be subbing it out to a bloke with a proper tracked knocker personally.
 
Storrsy

Storrsy

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Steel pin that you drive first and then pull out hydraulically. Great option worth having
They're great on a tracked or tractor mounted machine. Not so great on a small digger. With 350kg of the knocker by the time you've knocked a spike into hard ground the biggest problem is trying to get the spike out again as already you're pretty much maxing out the lifting capacity with the knocker alone.. that said on the Protech p18 they literally are a few extra hundred quid for the spike so must as well have it anyway for the odd "situation".
 
Storrsy

Storrsy

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So a p18+ has a 150kg weight, would it be worth getting the 180kg weight?...as said this is going on a 3.2t machine.

On the extras list it mentions 60mm rock spike and pins...what's that?

Don't forget I'm a knocker novice
Basically the rock spike is pinned to the post cap using the 2 holes. You knock it in as if it was a post and then have fun and games trying to extract it again! If your on shillet ground and the posts are being problematic your best of pilot drilling the holes first with an auger- especially for strainer posts. Deffo go for a 180kg weight. It will be fine on a 3.2. would even take the 210kg hammer option if your steady. But 180kg is what I have on mine and will knock telegraph pole strainer posts in to reasonable ground.
 
hiluxman

hiluxman

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Thanks for that guys.

This job inpatticular is all clay. Previously for very small runs I've augered a tight hole and bashed them in manually, but I've many meters to do, fortunately it's all post and rail so I've no mesh ect to worry about.

I'm getting it priced up currently and I'm told they have got some good discounts available...Once I've a price I'm sure I'll ask your thoughts on here.
 
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