Plant trailers

sjs5060

sjs5060

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Now then, we are all guilty at times for using the internet to slag products/firms off, with this post I’m gonna redress the balance for myself at least.
for three years I’ve had an Ifor gh1054, 2013 model that I bought secondhand. To be fair to it it’s been a good trailer and done a lot of work.
to cut a long story short on Thursday last week I had the Ifor on a customers ramp to sort/adjust the brakes, anyhow the outcome of this ‘inspection’ revealed a spring hanger hanging off and the back of the drawbar barely hanging on, with several cracks in the chassis. We gave it 10 mins with the mig to get be home bu basically the things had enough. So I need a new trailer.
You’d think that’d be fairly easy wouldn’t you? WRONG
Firstly which one do you buy? I didn’t want one that was too wide which I suppose restricted me a bit but i initially fancied a Bateson, rang three different dealers, 2 of who didn’t seem that bothered that they didn’t have any in stock, the third was a real nice bloke who was very apologetic but said he couldn’t promise me I’d get a trailer this year if I ordered one.
Not a major problem I thought, I’ve a very busy Ifor dealer not far from me who to be fair are decent people, and the Ifors are alright, nope no chance, haven’t got anything, don’t know were there is anything and if you order today it’s Christmas deliver.
At this point I’m all over the internet looking for a secondhand one to tide me over, ringing everyone but drew a blank everywhere.
By now I’m starting to get desperat, the thought of not being able to move my stuff about where I need it doesn’t bare thinking about. Now I can’t ever remember seeing one close up but have read on farming forum the these Nugent trailers are pretty good. So I rings a dealer, ”no mate, nothing in stock and don’t know when we can get stuff”. Rang another dealer but no answer. So at this point Friday morning I as good as gave up and got stuck into some work. About half an hour later the phone ring “hi it matt bolton from Barnes and bolton trailers I’ve had a missed call off you”
The fact that he rang a random number back was at sign he was at least keen, anyhow I explained my situation to which he said he didn’t have anything in stock. By this point I wasn’t phased as I’d herd that all morning. Matt then went onto say he was just about to call a dealer down country who he’s doing something with a may be going to next week and he’ll ask him on the off chance.
TBH I wasn’t really expecting anything but I was great full that somebody was actually interested a bit. A hour later matts on the phone “the blokes got just what you want, Nugent P3116h it’ll end up about £3100+vat but it mite be late next week before we can get it to you”. By now a couple of days seems nothing compared to the alternative I’m sure I could borrow/hire something to keep me going so I told him to email me an invoice so i could pay him. Sure enough Friday night I got an email with an invoice, for £50 less than what was the agreed price. By now I’m starting the really like the way this bloke works.
All that’s good enough for anyone, not matt, he’s swapped stuff around and the trailer was in my yard mid afternoon today, my only negative is I was out on site and couldn’t get back to sake his had in person.

The point of this story was basically just to tell everyone if they want anything at all to do with trailers there’s nobody comes close to the service from Barnes & Bolton trailers from Preston. I’ll never go anywhere else from now on.

I’m aware this post has rambled on, and if your still awake, you’d think I’d be finished? Nope, not with mentioning the Nugent trailer.
The Ifor was alright, but in my opinion the axles are a bit close together so it doesn’t ride great a lot of the time, the Nugent are just a little further apart so it rides spot on. That really was my only ever gripe with the ifor, not now, the build quality of the Nugent is something else, you can see the strength is there in the right places and its just neatly finished off and well thought out.

What I’m saying is if you want a trailer give a Nugent a serious look and if your in the northwest ring Barnes & bolton. Great product & top service.

Ste
 
sjs5060

sjs5060

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Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

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Now then, we are all guilty at times for using the internet to slag products/firms off, with this post I’m gonna redress the balance for myself at least.
for three years I’ve had an Ifor gh1054, 2013 model that I bought secondhand. To be fair to it it’s been a good trailer and done a lot of work.
to cut a long story short on Thursday last week I had the Ifor on a customers ramp to sort/adjust the brakes, anyhow the outcome of this ‘inspection’ revealed a spring hanger hanging off and the back of the drawbar barely hanging on, with several cracks in the chassis. We gave it 10 mins with the mig to get be home bu basically the things had enough. So I need a new trailer.
You’d think that’d be fairly easy wouldn’t you? WRONG
Firstly which one do you buy? I didn’t want one that was too wide which I suppose restricted me a bit but i initially fancied a Bateson, rang three different dealers, 2 of who didn’t seem that bothered that they didn’t have any in stock, the third was a real nice bloke who was very apologetic but said he couldn’t promise me I’d get a trailer this year if I ordered one.
Not a major problem I thought, I’ve a very busy Ifor dealer not far from me who to be fair are decent people, and the Ifors are alright, nope no chance, haven’t got anything, don’t know were there is anything and if you order today it’s Christmas deliver.
At this point I’m all over the internet looking for a secondhand one to tide me over, ringing everyone but drew a blank everywhere.
By now I’m starting to get desperat, the thought of not being able to move my stuff about where I need it doesn’t bare thinking about. Now I can’t ever remember seeing one close up but have read on farming forum the these Nugent trailers are pretty good. So I rings a dealer, ”no mate, nothing in stock and don’t know when we can get stuff”. Rang another dealer but no answer. So at this point Friday morning I as good as gave up and got stuck into some work. About half an hour later the phone ring “hi it matt bolton from Barnes and bolton trailers I’ve had a missed call off you”
The fact that he rang a random number back was at sign he was at least keen, anyhow I explained my situation to which he said he didn’t have anything in stock. By this point I wasn’t phased as I’d herd that all morning. Matt then went onto say he was just about to call a dealer down country who he’s doing something with a may be going to next week and he’ll ask him on the off chance.
TBH I wasn’t really expecting anything but I was great full that somebody was actually interested a bit. A hour later matts on the phone “the blokes got just what you want, Nugent P3116h it’ll end up about £3100+vat but it mite be late next week before we can get it to you”. By now a couple of days seems nothing compared to the alternative I’m sure I could borrow/hire something to keep me going so I told him to email me an invoice so i could pay him. Sure enough Friday night I got an email with an invoice, for £50 less than what was the agreed price. By now I’m starting the really like the way this bloke works.
All that’s good enough for anyone, not matt, he’s swapped stuff around and the trailer was in my yard mid afternoon today, my only negative is I was out on site and couldn’t get back to sake his had in person.

The point of this story was basically just to tell everyone if they want anything at all to do with trailers there’s nobody comes close to the service from Barnes & Bolton trailers from Preston. I’ll never go anywhere else from now on.

I’m aware this post has rambled on, and if your still awake, you’d think I’d be finished? Nope, not with mentioning the Nugent trailer.
The Ifor was alright, but in my opinion the axles are a bit close together so it doesn’t ride great a lot of the time, the Nugent are just a little further apart so it rides spot on. That really was my only ever gripe with the ifor, not now, the build quality of the Nugent is something else, you can see the strength is there in the right places and its just neatly finished off and well thought out.

What I’m saying is if you want a trailer give a Nugent a serious look and if your in the northwest ring Barnes & bolton. Great product & top service.

Ste
2nd that . Top blokes👍
 
Storrsy

Storrsy

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Very nice trailer. I wanted a Bateson back in summer, or a Nugent, but it was all mega waits involved- like months, my ifor gx105 had cracked and needed. something desperately.
I seem to remember the Nugent was too heavy to fit my Takeuchi on where’s an Ifor 1054 could accommodate it legally (on paper at least) and was in stock.
makes you wonder though with all of us dragging diggers around at the max weight allowance of the trailer- you can’t have your cake and eat it, a light trailer is always going to have to compromise somewhere and I think Nugent have probably done the right thing not trying to cut the weight down too much.
 
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Monkeybusiness

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I’ve never heard a bad thing about Nugent trailers - I’m sure you’ll do well with it! A firm near me (Cheshire) have just taken on the dealership and seem to have a bit of stock around them, maybe yours came from there possibly?
Did you try Andrew Liverseed for Bateson (also sells Meredith and Eyre). He’s a real gent to deal with too - can’t do enough for you. I know he’s been struggling to get stock of all trailer types though, I think that industry has been mental over the last 6 months.
 
GazCro

GazCro

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Nugent are in effect a better built ifor. Its not many years ago they looked identical and i believe Nugent were buying most of the sections off ifor and assembling them themselves. Dealers even used to claim they were a fully welded ifor. Last couple of years it does look like they've started doing a lot more themselves. As said above though everyone wants the lightest trailer possible to maximise payload, something has to give.
 
sjs5060

sjs5060

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Very nice trailer. I wanted a Bateson back in summer, or a Nugent, but it was all mega waits involved- like months, my ifor gx105 had cracked and needed. something desperately.
I seem to remember the Nugent was too heavy to fit my Takeuchi on where’s an Ifor 1054 could accommodate it legally (on paper at least) and was in stock.
makes you wonder though with all of us dragging diggers around at the max weight allowance of the trailer- you can’t have your cake and eat it, a light trailer is always going to have to compromise somewhere and I think Nugent have probably done the right thing not trying to cut the weight down too much.
Yep your right, it is heavier than the Ifor, and I’m now probably pushing it weight wise, but what do you do? Yeah the ifors light, but it’s at the cost of strength and I’d rather be a touch over weight and have confidence in the trailer
 
sjs5060

sjs5060

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I’ve never heard a bad thing about Nugent trailers - I’m sure you’ll do well with it! A firm near me (Cheshire) have just taken on the dealership and seem to have a bit of stock around them, maybe yours came from there possibly?
Did you try Andrew Liverseed for Bateson (also sells Meredith and Eyre). He’s a real gent to deal with too - can’t do enough for you. I know he’s been struggling to get stock of all trailer types though, I think that industry has been mental over the last 6 months.
Yeah I did speak to Andrew and he seemed like a nice bloke, he just couldn’t help me on this occasion, must be frustrating for the dealer to be fair
 
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Monkeybusiness

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Coincidentally I’ve just seen a Facebook post from Cheshire Trailers and they have a couple of new Nugent plant trailers (and a load of flat beds and tippers) in stock ready to go.
 
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rossandson

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Good news, goos customer service goes along way!

Admittedly I’ve currently got a GH1054 on order.

I called Bateson beforehand and actually spoke to one of the bateson’s. He was a lovely chap! And we were discussing the MD35, can’t remember the exact delivery estimate but it was going to be Dec, most likely the new year due to reduced workforce etc. But I can’t knock his service and have a good amount of time on the phone to take it through.

The delivery and price I managed to get a GH1054 for was what swung it.
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

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Good news, goos customer service goes along way!

Admittedly I’ve currently got a GH1054 on order.

I called Bateson beforehand and actually spoke to one of the bateson’s. He was a lovely chap! And we were discussing the MD35, can’t remember the exact delivery estimate but it was going to be Dec, most likely the new year due to reduced workforce etc. But I can’t knock his service and have a good amount of time on the phone to take it through.

The delivery and price I managed to get a GH1054 for was what swung it.
I used to deal with the Mr Meredith regularly (can't recall his christian name and doubt he's still with us) and often after 5.30 / 6 ish .... was a good time to catch him as no one else knew his stuff like he did :giggle:
Make a great product Meredith and Eyre (y)
 
Shovelhands

Shovelhands

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Yet again some great feedback on here regarding brands other than Ifor.
However can any of them compete with the residual values of an Ifor? Rightly or wrongly they hold their money well, very well in fact.
It probably shouldn’t be a major factor when buying a new trailer, but I just can’t help taking it into consideration.

I was considering changing my Ifor tipper in the spring, sounds like I might have to place an order sooner rather than later! Rather than my usual tactic of calling the local dealer at the last minute 🤦‍♂️
 
JD450A

JD450A

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However can any of them compete with the residual values of an Ifor?

Depends on the time period you run it for. Most of the better trailers (bateson, Indespension and similar) are on a even price really at the bottom of the market.
 
doobin

doobin

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Yet again some great feedback on here regarding brands other than Ifor.
However can any of them compete with the residual values of an Ifor? Rightly or wrongly they hold their money well, very well in fact.
It probably shouldn’t be a major factor when buying a new trailer, but I just can’t help taking it into consideration.

I was considering changing my Ifor tipper in the spring, sounds like I might have to place an order sooner rather than later! Rather than my usual tactic of calling the local dealer at the last minute 🤦‍♂️
I've only just joined the Ifor bandwagon, and only for the reasons outlined above. They hold their rmoney like you wouldn't believe. I've been thinking about replacing my tipper too, but prices are INSANE. No other word.



I bought a tri axle Buffalo tipper at the start of lockdown with refurbished running gear from the manufacturer for £2500 plus VAT, just to see if the concept worked for me. It does, but I might have to put a new steel sheet on the floor of mine and keep it going, as everything else is in good order. I'm not paying almost 7k for a trailer!
 
doobin

doobin

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Depends on the time period you run it for. Most of the better trailers (bateson, Indespension and similar) are on a even price really at the bottom of the market.
Disagree, currently at least. Just got rid of the last of my Indespension trailers (hatefull, shitty axles) and I wish they'd been Ifors when I was selling them. It's like a LandRover- people just pay more.
 
Shovelhands

Shovelhands

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I've only just joined the Ifor bandwagon, and only for the reasons outlined above. They hold their rmoney like you wouldn't believe. I've been thinking about replacing my tipper too, but prices are INSANE. No other word.



I bought a tri axle Buffalo tipper at the start of lockdown with refurbished running gear from the manufacturer for £2500 plus VAT, just to see if the concept worked for me. It does, but I might have to put a new steel sheet on the floor of mine and keep it going, as everything else is in good order. I'm not paying almost 7k for a trailer!
Is a new Ifor tipper really 7k?.....
 
JD450A

JD450A

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Disagree, currently at least. Just got rid of the last of my Indespension trailers (hatefull, shitty axles) and I wish they'd been Ifors when I was selling them. It's like a LandRover- people just pay more.

We've brought two Ifors this year, a 2.8t plant trailer in GWO for about £600 and a 3.5t dropside in GWO for £1200.... both IMHO where equal to what i'd of paid for a similar competitor trailer.

One thing I will say is Ifor Dealers will wipe the floor with anyone on PX price.... know of two trailers brought privately and traded in for far more than they where brought for a couple years ago.... :oops:
 
doobin

doobin

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We've brought two Ifors this year, a 2.8t plant trailer in GWO for about £600 and a 3.5t dropside in GWO for £1200.... both IMHO where equal to what i'd of paid for a similar competitor trailer.

One thing I will say is Ifor Dealers will wipe the floor with anyone on PX price.... know of two trailers brought privately and traded in for far more than they where brought for a couple years ago.... :oops:
You bought at WAY below market value for that mate. Lucky bugger.
 
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