pettsy
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Now I’m generally a vag group owner… but could definitely find a home for that. I remember going to look at a local specialist when a family member was thinking of buying one and they were more sensible money! They sit so well on Rondells!
V8Druid
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always fancied a DBS-V8 ... and seriously looked for one, maybe 25 - 30 years ago, when they weren't that dear (relatively) to pick up - had a customer who had one and loved the look of them .. looked at several, but could never understand how anyone who owned one could neglect them so badly
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something different for the petrol heads ...
this popped up in a feed and I was amazed - was only thinking the other day I haven't seen one in years - now i know why
have had four of these over my motoring life ...
the first being a '69 TS , in '76 ...
it did well over a quarter of a million miles, that I know of..
I put 60k on it which took it to 150k and the mate I sold it too did another 110k before selling it
a plum one in late '80 .. then a green one in '81 and a blue TX later that year -- bought a lot of part ex,s off the local Renault dealer, who I knew well - ran 'em for a few weeks and moved 'em on, when summat else of interest came up
wet liner, in line engine with the g/box in front of it and a slick column change ... loved everyone of my 16s .. were a great car in their day - have had a lot of Renaults over the years, from 4s through the range to 30s - never owned a 25 though
The 1916 was boasted to be ‘a new breed of car for the new man’
Arguments about the world’s first hatchback are often as tedious as the so-called jokes about Ladas and Skodas. The 16 was not even Renault’s first five-door car, but 60 years ago it revolutionised an entire market sector and was voted Car of the Year for 1966. Today, David O’Leary’s 1969 example is one of only 14 GL specification models still running on British roads.
Renault began work on Project 115 in 1961. Not only would it be produced in a new factory, but it would also be front-wheel-drive and employ the five-door format pioneered by the company’s R4. Some dealers were concerned that the 16 would not appeal to “traditional” French motorists, who would most likely opt for the ultra-conventional, rear-wheel-drive Peugeot 404. However, Pierre Dreyfus, Renault’s chief executive at the time, believed: “By virtue of its design, the R16 will be a successful car. It’s everything we need, with its distinctness and originality.”
Dealers could tell customers that the 16’s 1,470cc engine was Europe’s first with a die-cast aluminium cylinder block
This newspaper alerted readers to the Renault 16 on January 21 1965, while the formal launch took place that March at the Geneva motor show. Once French motorists became acclimatised to the shock of the new, the 16 did achieve success, appealing to go-ahead family motorists with Jean-Paul Belmondo pretensions. Government departments also favoured the new Renault and it became a popular military staff car as there was sufficient headroom for an officer’s kepi hat
The company further claimed the 16 “was designed for an international customer base, in markets affected by improved living standards and especially the need for quality and escapism”. By December 1965, the UK concessionaire used equally elaborate language, boasting: “The Renault 16 is a new breed of car for the new man.” Potential buyers were invited to “Compare the looks of the new Renault 16 with other 1.5-litre cars. Makes them look dowdy, doesn’t it?”
The practical interior has a choice of seven seating configurations
Autocar thought “beauty might not have suited its character, and most people enjoy such bold originality”. This was the company’s aim: Dreyfus stated the 16 would not look like other European medium-sized cars and it could never be confused with a 404 or a Simca 1500. There would be no front-wheel-drive, 1.5-litre, five-door saloon produced in Britain until the Austin Maxi appeared in 1969.
Renault GB first imported the TL, costing £888 9s 7d, and the GL, with a cigar lighter and separate front seats, at £948 17s 11d. Dealers could also tell customers that the 16’s 1,470cc engine was Europe’s first with a die-cast aluminium cylinder block (Renault’s claim, at least) and its four-speed all-synchromesh gear-change on the steering column was one of the best of its type. In addition, the transverse torsion bar rear suspension layout resulted in an asymmetrical wheelbase.
The 16 was not only “Today’s car for today’s man”, but also Car of the Year 1966. The GL was more expensive than a Singer Vogue for £896 or the Vauxhall Victor De Luxe for £775, but they were of a different ethos: rear-wheel-drive, reassuringly conventional and quasi-American in appearance. Autocar regarded the 16 as a mature design “of great merit”. Motor Sport believed it “oozes individuality, but this is more apparent in its ingenious and unusual details than in its manner of quiet, easy running, for it handles like a conventional car”.
At its launch, the 16 genuinely was ‘more than an estate car. More than a saloon’ and ‘a new breed of car’
By 1970, Renault exported half of 16 production. The last example left the factory at Sandouville near Le Havre in January 1980 after 1,845,959 had been produced.
O’Leary’s GL has all the 16’s trademark idiosyncrasies, from the headlight adjustment levers to the wonderfully elaborate dashboard, with switches apparently placed entirely at random. The practical interior has a choice of seven seating configurations, including creating more luggage space by folding the front-hinged rear bench forward and then suspending its backrest from the grab handles. O’Leary finds “even some other owners are unaware of how versatile the 16 is”.
This example’s first owner passed the 16 to his grandson, but engine problems meant he retired it to a lean-to shed circa 1980. O’Leary bought the Renault several decades later when the family moved house, and it took him several years to restore it to a showroom condition.
He greatly appreciates the 16’s road manners and column gear-change: “That was one of the main reasons for my buying the car.”
At its launch, the 16 genuinely was “more than an estate car. More than a saloon” and “a new breed of car”. Even if O’Leary was recently amazed by a bystander at a classic car show asking: “Is that an Alfa Romeo?”
this popped up in a feed and I was amazed - was only thinking the other day I haven't seen one in years - now i know why
have had four of these over my motoring life ...
the first being a '69 TS , in '76 ...
it did well over a quarter of a million miles, that I know of..
I put 60k on it which took it to 150k and the mate I sold it too did another 110k before selling it
a plum one in late '80 .. then a green one in '81 and a blue TX later that year -- bought a lot of part ex,s off the local Renault dealer, who I knew well - ran 'em for a few weeks and moved 'em on, when summat else of interest came up
wet liner, in line engine with the g/box in front of it and a slick column change ... loved everyone of my 16s .. were a great car in their day - have had a lot of Renaults over the years, from 4s through the range to 30s - never owned a 25 though
UK’s rarest cars: 1969 Renault 16 GL, one of only 14 left
The 1916 was boasted to be ‘a new breed of car for the new man’
Arguments about the world’s first hatchback are often as tedious as the so-called jokes about Ladas and Skodas. The 16 was not even Renault’s first five-door car, but 60 years ago it revolutionised an entire market sector and was voted Car of the Year for 1966. Today, David O’Leary’s 1969 example is one of only 14 GL specification models still running on British roads.
Renault began work on Project 115 in 1961. Not only would it be produced in a new factory, but it would also be front-wheel-drive and employ the five-door format pioneered by the company’s R4. Some dealers were concerned that the 16 would not appeal to “traditional” French motorists, who would most likely opt for the ultra-conventional, rear-wheel-drive Peugeot 404. However, Pierre Dreyfus, Renault’s chief executive at the time, believed: “By virtue of its design, the R16 will be a successful car. It’s everything we need, with its distinctness and originality.”
Dealers could tell customers that the 16’s 1,470cc engine was Europe’s first with a die-cast aluminium cylinder block
This newspaper alerted readers to the Renault 16 on January 21 1965, while the formal launch took place that March at the Geneva motor show. Once French motorists became acclimatised to the shock of the new, the 16 did achieve success, appealing to go-ahead family motorists with Jean-Paul Belmondo pretensions. Government departments also favoured the new Renault and it became a popular military staff car as there was sufficient headroom for an officer’s kepi hat
The company further claimed the 16 “was designed for an international customer base, in markets affected by improved living standards and especially the need for quality and escapism”. By December 1965, the UK concessionaire used equally elaborate language, boasting: “The Renault 16 is a new breed of car for the new man.” Potential buyers were invited to “Compare the looks of the new Renault 16 with other 1.5-litre cars. Makes them look dowdy, doesn’t it?”
The practical interior has a choice of seven seating configurations
Autocar thought “beauty might not have suited its character, and most people enjoy such bold originality”. This was the company’s aim: Dreyfus stated the 16 would not look like other European medium-sized cars and it could never be confused with a 404 or a Simca 1500. There would be no front-wheel-drive, 1.5-litre, five-door saloon produced in Britain until the Austin Maxi appeared in 1969.
Renault GB first imported the TL, costing £888 9s 7d, and the GL, with a cigar lighter and separate front seats, at £948 17s 11d. Dealers could also tell customers that the 16’s 1,470cc engine was Europe’s first with a die-cast aluminium cylinder block (Renault’s claim, at least) and its four-speed all-synchromesh gear-change on the steering column was one of the best of its type. In addition, the transverse torsion bar rear suspension layout resulted in an asymmetrical wheelbase.
The 16 was not only “Today’s car for today’s man”, but also Car of the Year 1966. The GL was more expensive than a Singer Vogue for £896 or the Vauxhall Victor De Luxe for £775, but they were of a different ethos: rear-wheel-drive, reassuringly conventional and quasi-American in appearance. Autocar regarded the 16 as a mature design “of great merit”. Motor Sport believed it “oozes individuality, but this is more apparent in its ingenious and unusual details than in its manner of quiet, easy running, for it handles like a conventional car”.
At its launch, the 16 genuinely was ‘more than an estate car. More than a saloon’ and ‘a new breed of car’
By 1970, Renault exported half of 16 production. The last example left the factory at Sandouville near Le Havre in January 1980 after 1,845,959 had been produced.
O’Leary’s GL has all the 16’s trademark idiosyncrasies, from the headlight adjustment levers to the wonderfully elaborate dashboard, with switches apparently placed entirely at random. The practical interior has a choice of seven seating configurations, including creating more luggage space by folding the front-hinged rear bench forward and then suspending its backrest from the grab handles. O’Leary finds “even some other owners are unaware of how versatile the 16 is”.
This example’s first owner passed the 16 to his grandson, but engine problems meant he retired it to a lean-to shed circa 1980. O’Leary bought the Renault several decades later when the family moved house, and it took him several years to restore it to a showroom condition.
He greatly appreciates the 16’s road manners and column gear-change: “That was one of the main reasons for my buying the car.”
At its launch, the 16 genuinely was “more than an estate car. More than a saloon” and “a new breed of car”. Even if O’Leary was recently amazed by a bystander at a classic car show asking: “Is that an Alfa Romeo?”
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And now we have hugely innovative new cars like polestar with groundbreaking new features like....no rear window 
V8Druid
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anyone ever seen one of these before - the Japs built some weird and wonderful home market models
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That's horrific!anyone ever seen one of these before - the Japs built some weird and wonderful home market models
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in the 70s there was a craze for motorised chariot racing in the South of England .. picture 4 mini wheels abreast -- motor on top driving them and a pivot point to attach 'the chariot' to -- reins for control - two to steer with and two for throttle / clutch ... linked by vertical tubular handles, about 6 inches apart -- must've been a right handful, but they sure had a sense of adventure
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Last night was the annual Redhill Cruise, The sound of V8’s and smell of fuel was glorious as usual. Ecto 1 made its welcome appearance as usual .
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V8Druid
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A Ferrari 3.5-liter V8 engine on a superbike sounds bonkers, but it’s real
There probably wouldn't be many people who’d look at a V8 engine and think, yup, let’s put that on a motorcycle. Well, Max Hazan is one of the rare few who not only thought it, he actually did it – creating an entire bespoke motorcycle in the process.
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and big grins all around ....... Donald's having an effect?
" Dodge announces new gas-powered muscle cars ..... and the return of gasoline-powered performance. "
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" Dodge announces new gas-powered muscle cars ..... and the return of gasoline-powered performance. "
Dodge announces new gas-powered muscle cars – with a twist
Dodge has announced a new series of muscle cars and the return of gasoline-powered performance. The 2026 Dodge Charger Scat Pack models mark the next-generation of muscle under the name Sixpack.
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Lancs Lad
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Yes!!! Common sense is backand big grins all around ....... Donald's having an effect?
" Dodge announces new gas-powered muscle cars ..... and the return of gasoline-powered performance. "
Dodge announces new gas-powered muscle cars – with a twist
Dodge has announced a new series of muscle cars and the return of gasoline-powered performance. The 2026 Dodge Charger Scat Pack models mark the next-generation of muscle under the name Sixpack.
V8Druid
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Yangwang U9 Xtreme dethrones Bugatti as the world's fastest production car
The year is 2019. The Bugatti Chiron Supersport 300+ has just hit 304.772 mph (490.484 km/h) on a test track in Germany. The world looks on in awe and disbelief, wondering if there will ever be a proper production car that could break this feat.
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"Say hello to the world’s fastest production car, the Yangwang U9 Xtreme EV Yangwang"
sfrs4
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But are you seriously going to be down the pub pop your keys on the bar and say, "So i've done really well for myself this last couple of years, so I just bought myself a YangWang " at this point all your hear is sniggering from around the pub and people getting up quickly stifling childish laughter as they go. I absolutely hate brand snobbery in the car world, but it's just the name Yangwang, come on your trying to compete with the establishment, at least think a bit about it.
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6feetdown
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More likely to come out of the pub toilet saying some guy was looking at my Yangwang
Lancs Lad
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Shouldn't be allowing the Chinese pieces of sh*t in the first place ...I see a direct correlation of poor driving ability and the jaecoos and omodas and BYD which incidentally seems to have lost the build your dreams badge on the new ones
. I actually feel sorry for the poor fekkers driving them . Usually at 65mph on the inside lane. Spend my life overtaking them when I'm towing ...At some point the lid will be lifted when they need parts and spares....oh I forget they're disposable.
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Smiffy
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Shouldn't be allowing the Chinese pieces of sh*t in the first place ...I see a direct correlation of poor driving ability and the jaecoos and omodas and BYD which incidentally seems to have lost the build your dreams badge on the new ones
At some point the lid will be lifted when they need parts and spares....oh I forget they're disposable.
Jeremy Clarkson theory is right when he says people who have no interest in cars and therefore buy sh*t cars can't ever be good drivers because they simply aren't interested in it. Someone with an interest in cars will buy a nice car and will generally become a better driver.
Of course what you mark as a sh*t car varies. As something like peugeot 205 was pretty sh*t when new but having one now would be awesome fun.
V8Druid
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having spent many many evenings endeavouring to seam weld a 205 shell for a mate to go rallying in -- I wouldn't get in one - 5 or 6 layers deep in the front foot wells with the odd spot weld holding it together
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