JCB 800 series?

V8Druid

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They aren’t something I know too much about, what models were there? Was the 811 the smallest and the 820 the biggest or were there other models? When were they produced?

Only reason I ask is I was bored so was looking on done deal and came across this 820, and the plate says 1990, I thought the first JS’s where out by then
https://www.donedeal.ie/plantmachinery-for-sale/jcb-820-super-powerslide-with-grab/19634040
bloody hell ..... they're hoping :rolleyes: .... running gear well buggered on that :oops:
I know there was the 812 and 814 ..... think I've seen an 818 too ;)
 
Thomas7740

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bloody hell ..... they're hoping :rolleyes: .... running gear well buggered on that :oops:
I know there was the 812 and 814 ..... think I've seen an 818 too ;)
Yea can see it sitting awhile :ROFLMAO: yup, seen an 818 before, think I may have seen an 816 although I I could be wrong.
What’s the difference between super and non super? Seen an 814 super with mono boom one time, really liked the look of it :eek:
 
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topkit

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I will try and dig out a picture and post it of an 818 super with mono boom that a spotted a few years back also got some pics of a water authority 814 super with dipper extension on it cleaning out a river in Uckfield.
 
V8Druid

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Yea can see it sitting awhile :ROFLMAO: yup, seen an 818 before, think I may have seen an 816 although I I could be wrong.
What’s the difference between super and non super? Seen an 814 super with mono boom one time, really liked the look of it :eek:
IIRC the supers were turbo-ed and bigger pumps .... but don't quote me on that ..... I've seen a mono boomed 814 too;) .... looked different for sure ... the slide boom was a great idea IMHDO (y)
they were a very popular machine range for sure and still have plenty of advocates:cool:
 
V8Druid

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820 Mono
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Thomas7740

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I could be totally wrong but I can’t help but think that it would be really useful having something like an old 814 lying about for odd jobs and levelling dumps or loading stuff from stockpiles. Ideally i would like a UHO63 hitachi but they are few and before between where as the 814s seem more plentiful
 
Shovelhands

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I still run a 820 Super. Good tool if you can find a decent example.
814 was very popular, you really want a Super, they were, and still are a very capable Excavator.

Powerslide was/is brilliant, I just wish JCB would revisit the concept, it was shelved when the JS range was conceived in conjunction with Sumitomo, that collaboration is long since finished.

There’s a few JS machines that have been retrofitted with sliders, I saw a fresh one recently for a drainage board, iirc it was built by Kokurec?
 
Thomas7740

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I still run a 820 Super. Good tool if you can find a decent example.
814 was very popular, you really want a Super, they were, and still are a very capable Excavator.

Powerslide was/is brilliant, I just wish JCB would revisit the concept, it was shelved when the JS range was conceived in conjunction with Sumitomo, that collaboration is long since finished.

There’s a few JS machines that have been retrofitted with sliders, I saw a fresh one recently for a drainage board, iirc it was built by Kokurec?
Did you buy the 820 new?
Was there anything smaller than the 811 like in the 6-8 ton class
 
wee_gus

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Brilliant machines! And very very capable, we used to run 820 and 814 when I was a kind,
I used to drive the 814 when I was a teenager, mainly loading gritters in the winter before and after school! Slow on the tracking but very strong machines!

In all fairness that 820 on donedeal is a very tidy example, a new set of chains, sprockets and rollers she be good to go I would say!
 
Shovelhands

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Did you buy the 820 new?
Was there anything smaller than the 811 like in the 6-8 ton class

811 was the smallest, but you won’t find many, 812 was a bit more popular, but the model built in the biggest numbers was the 814. Non Super machines had different final drives , the Supers were far superior in the track department.
816,817 and 818 were also available. 817 was my first mount, a rare beast, even back in the day, sadly it lacked the “Super” spec, so wasn’t the best machine, but I have fond memories as it was my first full time mount.

We didn’t buy the 820 new, it was five years old, it will be 30 years old next year, with circa 18k hours, it’s coming into the yard for a full set of undercarriage and a full overhaul, planning to do it sometime over the next 6 months, but we have been saying that for several years! But she is very poorly now, so it really needs doing, it’s dads favourite machine, it’s hard to stop him driving it!

816 and above had bigger, heavier booms than the smaller ones, and a very different upper structure design, despite very similar looks from the outside.

Downside to the design was the sharing of the same sized slew ring throughout the range, which resulted in the smaller ones being almost over built in the slew and the bigger ones being a little under built by modern standards.
They also chose to retain the 2.5” pins throughout the range, the larger models had bigger main boom and dipper pivots, but had the same 2.5” pins everywhere else, which was ok on the 814 and below, but a little undersized by modern standards on the 816 and up.

I remember tales of a 822, iirc it was experimental and never made it into production, but that could have been just a myth? Be nice to know if it was true or not?

All models with variable pumps, had the same Rexroth AV80 pump, Super didn’t exclusively denote a variable pump, as the larger Non Super models still had the variable pump, but smaller Non Super models did have triple gang geared pumps.
 
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V8Druid

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never knew any of 'em had VD pumps James @Shovelhands .... interesting info. that.(y)
any of the 814s have VDs or all geared unit ?:confused:
As said above, a very handy thing to have sat about :cool:.... very nearly bought a tidy 814 before deciding to go the duck route :rolleyes:
 
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Went on 814 power slide (don't remember it being supe r) after a long spell on a komatsu pc180lc and was very impressed. Could not really tell it was a lighter machine. Smoother in the hydraulic then the pc180 easier to grade with, imo.
 
Shovelhands

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never knew any of 'em had VD pumps James @Shovelhands .... interesting info. that.(y)
any of the 814s have VDs or all geared unit ?:confused:
As said above, a very handy thing to have sat about :cool:.... very nearly bought a tidy 814 before deciding to go the duck route :rolleyes:

Yes, the 814 Supers had the same Rexroth Variable pump as the bigger models. Not sure if the last of the non Super 814 machines still had geared pumps? Or if they were even still making a non Super model during the last few years of production? I can’t see why anybody would buy one that wasn’t a Super? Possibly for overseas markets? I also cannot understand why anyone would buy a monoboom 800 series machine? But again this may have been driven by overseas markets?
 
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I could be totally wrong but I can’t help but think that it would be really useful having something like an old 814 lying about for odd jobs and levelling dumps or loading stuff from stockpiles. Ideally i would like a UHO63 hitachi but they are few and before between where as the 814s seem more plentiful


I drove 63 quite a bit and had a few spells on an 814 with a sliding boom the JCB had a hard life so not sure how typical it was of the range but when getting off a 63 on to it the noticeable thing was how poor the jcb was at tracking up steep hills it needed the dipper to pull it up even moderate hills the 63 would easily tackle just with tracks , in addition the JCB lacked hydraulic power to track and pull at the same time.
The sliding boom was frustrating as only part of the range was accessible without sliding it when the Hitachi mono boom would do full reach without any additional adjustment far easier to use it for grading .
much that i like the perkins engine a 6 cylinder if i recall , compared to the isuzu 6 in the UHO it drunk fuel and was very noisy.
however for occasional use non would be a big issue and as you say far more likely to find a JCB in any case
 
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Shovelhands

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I drove 63 quite a bit and had a few spells on an 814 with a sliding boom the JCB had a hard life so not sure how typical it was of the range but when getting off a 63 on to it the noticeable thing was how poor the jcb was at tracking up steep hills it needed the dipper to pull it up even moderate hills the 63 would easily tackle just with tracks , in addition the JCB lacked hydraulic power to track and pull at the same time.
The sliding boom was frustrating as only part of the range was accessible without sliding it when the Hitachi mono boom would do full reach without any additional adjustment far easier to use it for grading .
much that i like the perkins engine a 6 cylinder if i recall , compared to the isuzu 6 in the UHO it drunk fuel and was very noisy.
however for occasional use non would be a big issue and as you say far more likely to find a JCB in any case

You thought the Perkins was heavy on juice? I find tgat incredible tbh.

Was the 814 you drove a Super model?
 
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