Ineos Grenadier

[pettsy]

Nearest to poverty spec these days are the Isuzu utility models I would have thought, never seen many on the road mind. Looks like they start at £16.5K +vat

 

[V8Druid]

Thing is maybe it's not that the twin cabs are cheap but that lower spec are actually dear. Either way whichever sells in large numbers will always be most profitable. Re lasting 20 years if any manufacturer were to do this they would be signing their own death warrant.

disagree Gaz ... not everyone wants to drive an old truck so would still sell new ones ... and any truck that lasts 20 years would command premium S/h prices, plus be very sought after, so your new buyers would know they have a ready market to pass on their cast offs to

 

[GazCro]

disagree Gaz ... not everyone wants to drive an old truck so would still sell new ones ... and any truck that lasts 20 years would command premium S/h prices, plus be very sought after, so your new buyers would know they have a ready market to pass on their cast offs to

Not in today's throw away world imho. All manufacturer's think about is selling you the next one. Agreed a lot of people would still buy new but how many people only buy new because of warranty and the fear of repair bills.

 

[Antony Holmes]

disagree Gaz ... not everyone wants to drive an old truck so would still sell new ones ... and any truck that lasts 20 years would command premium S/h prices, plus be very sought after, so your new buyers would know they have a ready market to pass on their cast offs to

I was told something like 90% land rovers ever built are still on the road some where that did not stop them selling new ones

 

[GazCro]

I was told something like 90% land rovers ever built are still on the road some where that did not stop them selling new ones

Rose tinted

 

[Smiffy]

I was told something like 90% land rovers ever built are still on the road some where that did not stop them selling new ones

That's only cos the other 10% reached there destination

 

[Canal Navvy]

Honestly Druid, as a man who likes Landrovers, you and I both know they never really fitted a proper engine in them.

Land Rover Australia managed it ........ the mighty Isuzu 3.9

(says the smug git with a 4bd1t in his )

 

[Russell]

I would rather have something like this

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I don't know what they can tow in the UK ?
I'm bloody loving the rangerover. I would like to try and stick with v8's from now on

 

[craig]

I would rather have something like this

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I don't know what they can tow in the UK ?
I'm bloody loving the rangerover. I would like to try and stick with v8's from now on

I had a ram, with a 5.9 cummins, cant remember what the plate said, it was in lbs, but it towed a kubota kx71 well.

 

[V8Druid]

I would rather have something like this

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I don't know what they can tow in the UK ?
I'm bloody loving the rangerover. I would like to try and stick with v8's from now on

no substitute for cubes or cylinders

 

[V8Druid]

I would rather have something like this

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problem with the big yank stuff ........... is finding anywhere to park the bloody things ... I'd happily live with one ... 'er indoors'd say otherwise

 

[Russell]

There is a nice dodge single cab on eBay. I like the idea of 3 seats in the front. Just right for me the wife and the boy.

 

[V8Druid]

ex-MOD landyrovers and bits .... want an 8x8, but doubt i'd turn the damned thing around here

Timed Auction - Brightwells Live

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[Grahams]

I was told something like 90% land rovers ever built are still on the road some where that did not stop them selling new ones

I remember when that came out. The trouble was it was used at a time when they had massively ramped up production for the 4x4 craze and most had been sold in the previous five years, so was really giving a false impression and was just marketing hype.

 

[GazCro]

I remember when that came out. The trouble was it was used at a time when they had massively ramped up production for the 4x4 craze and most had been sold in the previous five years, so was really giving a false impression and was just marketing hype.

Triggers brush is still going strong too.

 

[Grahams]

disagree Gaz ... not everyone wants to drive an old truck so would still sell new ones ... and any truck that lasts 20 years would command premium S/h prices, plus be very sought after, so your new buyers would know they have a ready market to pass on their cast offs to

It wouldn't be too difficult to get a truck to last 20 years by using a chassis and bolting everything on. The difficulty is getting the electrics, computer, emissions stuff to last or cheap enough that it could be replaced economically. I'm sure most vehicles that are now scrapped are because the "clever" bits make them uneconomical to repair.

 

[GazCro]

It wouldn't be too difficult to get a truck to last 20 years by using a chassis and bolting everything on. The difficulty is getting the electrics, computer, emissions stuff to last or cheap enough that it could be replaced economically. I'm sure most vehicles that are now scrapped are because the "clever" bits make them uneconomical to repair.

But the manufacturer doesn't want a vehicle to last 20 years as they only make money selling the new ones. To be fair the biggest killer for vehicles long term now is all the emissions gubbins that's added on strangling the engine's and making them breathe their own fumes in. Whilst I'm in no way against less pollution it would be interesting to know how much actual benefit there is in some of it and whether its worth it. Seems efficiency has gone out the window in favour of lower emissions but surely the easiest way to lower emissions is to burn less fuel to begin with.

 

[V8Druid]

Triggers brush is still going strong too.

unlike Trigger

 

[Smiffy]

But the manufacturer doesn't want a vehicle to last 20 years as they only make money selling the new ones. To be fair the biggest killer for vehicles long term now is all the emissions gubbins that's added on strangling the engine's and making them breathe their own fumes in. Whilst I'm in no way against less pollution it would be interesting to know how much actual benefit there is in some of it and whether its worth it. Seems efficiency has gone out the window in favour of lower emissions but surely the easiest way to lower emissions is to burn less fuel to begin with.

It will back fire on them eventually if they keep this up
The only reason that the vast majority of new car owners can afford them is due to second hand value
It's the same with cheap lease deals as the second hand value is what dictates how much they can be leased for
If manafacturers keep up the drive to have vehicles fail on warranty expires date then the second hand value will plummet making new vehicle ownership unsustainable

In the longrun I think it will reach the point where we won't buy vehicle's but lease them over a longer time
Or be able to buy factory refurbished vehicles

 

[Lancs Lad]

ex-MOD landyrovers and bits .... want an 8x8, but doubt i'd turn the damned thing around here

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Always fancied one of them MAN winch trucks...real "get out of my way" machine.

Will keep an eye on the wolf's tho.feeling they'll be cheap....and .a bit of a gamble.