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Bri963

Bri963

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The Milwaukee are miles ahead power wise for 18v stuff
Think Makita is around 440nm tighten and the DeWalt is 950nm tighte and 1650 undo, whereas the 1/2 Milwaukee is 1356nm tighten and 1900nm of undo force, their m18 1" version is just over 2000nm tighten and 2400nm of unfastening.
Their M12 impact is around 340nm tighten.
Looking at the figures probably should have bought the M12 but it's nice to know the m18 will see pretty much everything undone
We did have a 3/4” Makita and whatever the numbers say it was a lot better than the Milwaukee, until it died at a young age.
 
doobin

doobin

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We did have a 3/4” Makita and whatever the numbers say it was a lot better than the Milwaukee, until it died at a young age.
My 3/4 makita died early also, but credit where it’s due, makita picked it up one morning and had it back to me fixed the next. Unbelievable.
 
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Jimoz

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I think makita 40v has been a massive cock up.
Its not backwards compatible with their old gear / batteries.
Other brands you can run 2x18v batteries or 1x18v battery at half the amps at 36v if I understand it right?
 
GazCro

GazCro

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I think makita 40v has been a massive cock up.
Its not backwards compatible with their old gear / batteries.
Other brands you can run 2x18v batteries or 1x18v battery at half the amps at 36v if I understand it right?
I wouldn't say its a cock up exactly if the tools prove to be a big step forward. But not being backwards compatible isn't ideal it is makita btw that make the 2x18v gear which are a good step up in power but heavier and a bit numb tbh. I think that's why they've gone to the 40v as its no bigger than 1x18v but more power. For whatever reason they've stayed at 6ah batteries, supposedly 9ah and 12ah cells are a lot more fussy about being charged and discharged correctly but I've not heard of any big issues with Milwaukee batteries? One thing it does do though is make it an easier decision for someone looking to upgrade kit to change brand as like you say its not backwards compatible so you're not tied to already having any chargers or batteries.
 
Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

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I think makita 40v has been a massive cock up.
Its not backwards compatible with their old gear / batteries.
Other brands you can run 2x18v batteries or 1x18v battery at half the amps at 36v if I understand it right?
The DeWalt appears to be same adaptor for all the different sizes. Got a 12,9 and 6ah for the compressor,mixer and cut off saw. Very handy but that's about as far as I'll go with DeWalt.🤣
 
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Brendan

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I wouldn't say its a cock up exactly if the tools prove to be a big step forward. But not being backwards compatible isn't ideal it is makita btw that make the 2x18v gear which are a good step up in power but heavier and a bit numb tbh. I think that's why they've gone to the 40v as its no bigger than 1x18v but more power. For whatever reason they've stayed at 6ah batteries, supposedly 9ah and 12ah cells are a lot more fussy about being charged and discharged correctly but I've not heard of any big issues with Milwaukee batteries? One thing it does do though is make it an easier decision for someone looking to upgrade kit to change brand as like you say its not backwards compatible so you're not tied to already having any chargers or batteries.
That's the issue I had all my other cordless kit is DeWalt either 18v or 54v. The 54v kit is great and being able to use the batteries in the 18v kit is a winner.
My dewalt impact was struggling at times with stuff, not sure if it was age or needing a service but as they haven't updated the model in the 4 plus years I've had mine I wanted something with more power.
If they had done a more powerful 54v version I would have had no doubts about changing brands.
So it's now a case of being in two different battery ecosystems.
There is those battery adaptors but no idea if they are any good
 
Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

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Interested to hear of anyone's bitthe bullet and got the new Milwaukee MX fuel stuff? Looks capable with monster batteries but...😱 £££
 
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Matt

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Fuchs grease and gun for me. been using them for years now and they are much easier and cleaner.

Just ordered some from these guys and was impressed with the service..

 
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Brendan

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I use this for 8tView attachment 20592 Normal gun and haffa green for 3t because fuchs gun wont fit on it.
And by coincidence this afternoon been trying to do what Kubota should of done and find somewhere to put a grease gun on a u17 😡 unless im missing something 🤷‍♂️
Do you have to put inserts in the tubes or do you get ones with them in?
 
GazCro

GazCro

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That's the issue I had all my other cordless kit is DeWalt either 18v or 54v. The 54v kit is great and being able to use the batteries in the 18v kit is a winner.
My dewalt impact was struggling at times with stuff, not sure if it was age or needing a service but as they haven't updated the model in the 4 plus years I've had mine I wanted something with more power.
If they had done a more powerful 54v version I would have had no doubts about changing brands.
So it's now a case of being in two different battery ecosystems.
There is those battery adaptors but no idea if they are any good
As much as it's annoying that i won't be able mix and match my makita 18v kit if i was to go to 40v, maybe the 18v kit has been pushed as far as is reasonable. Maybe a new battery platform is needed and being able to use mix the old one in would actually hold it back.
 
Furniss

Furniss

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Fuchs grease and gun for me. been using them for years now and they are much easier and cleaner.

Just ordered some from these guys and was impressed with the service..

Thats where i get mine from and im in France.
I found great service too 👍
 
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Brendan

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Unscrew cap (put it on old cartridge
) - push bottom of cartridge a fraction to get grease to very top and screw on gun ....easy. and with g coupler 👌
I've got the speedy grease one, you can use standard cartridges as long as they have a continuous lip at the top but you have to push a fitting in the bottom to create the seal. To be fair it's more of a faff as I'm too tight and reuse the same bit which involves having to mess around getting it out of the old cartridge to reuse
 
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Jimoz

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As much as it's annoying that i won't be able mix and match my makita 18v kit if i was to go to 40v, maybe the 18v kit has been pushed as far as is reasonable. Maybe a new battery platform is needed and being able to use mix the old one in would actually hold it back.
In 5 years there will be 80v with 2 batteries before someone brings out a 100v system

Would cost a few bob to replace all my mak 18v gear now all in one go. Only recent bought the 36v rear handled saw other week
 
GazCro

GazCro

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In 5 years there will be 80v with 2 batteries before someone brings out a 100v system

Would cost a few bob to replace all my mak 18v gear now all in one go. Only recent bought the 36v rear handled saw other week
Yeah that's the other thing about it. Whatever you buy this week is out of date next. If what you've got does the job that's all that matters not which battery or colour it is. I've been close to buying the makita track saw a few times but I'll wait and see if a 40v version comes out first.
 
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Jimoz

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by all accounts the 36v cordless mak tracksaw is more powerful than the 110v corded festool which I have.
I try to stay away from having the more expensive bits cordless, lot of places want you to have extraction also so 110v is my preferred although the dewalt flex volt mitre saws with the 110v adapter look to be the best bet in my eyes, think they're on mach3 now and the motors have stopped blowing up after 12 months!
 
GazCro

GazCro

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by all accounts the 36v cordless mak tracksaw is more powerful than the 110v corded festool which I have.
I try to stay away from having the more expensive bits cordless, lot of places want you to have extraction also so 110v is my preferred although the dewalt flex volt mitre saws with the 110v adapter look to be the best bet in my eyes, think they're on mach3 now and the motors have stopped blowing up after 12 months!
A lot of cordless gear has become as or even more powerful than the corded equivalent. But there again no corded gear has been developed for over 15 years.
 
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Brendan

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In 5 years there will be 80v with 2 batteries before someone brings out a 100v system

Would cost a few bob to replace all my mak 18v gear now all in one go. Only recent bought the 36v rear handled saw other week
DeWalt is already there with the large sliding mitre saw. It's 108v so uses two 54v batteries or with an adaptor runs off a 110v transfomer
 
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