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Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

Well-known member
Yeah your are likely right. Regardless of his capacity or capabilities, he is not really got the love of anyone.

Personally I’d like to see Lib Dem’s get a shot again. They do a semi decent job in this part of the world and don’t seem to attract as many crackpots .
All, depending on your definition of crackpots of course 🤣🤣
To be fair Tim farron isn't a total dick 👍🏻
 
Vinpetrol

Vinpetrol

Well-known member
Yeah your are likely right. Regardless of his capacity or capabilities, he is not really got the love of anyone.

Personally I’d like to see Lib Dem’s get a shot again. They do a semi decent job in this part of the world and don’t seem to attract as many crackpots .
Lib Dem’s do fairly well up here to be fair
 
TiltyShaun

TiltyShaun

Well-known member
I am a Reform Party member who joined when Nigel agreed to stand at the last election. I would describe myself as a religious conservative voter.
The problem for me was the direction of travel that the conservatives took during Covid. They moved too far towards the center left. I blame Boris and Sunal for that. Liz Truss was going to drag them back but failed. The bulk of the party had forced the move to the center and paid the price.
What I see with Reform is not a fully though out set of policies. But a clear direction in which the travel will be. Less state and less tax. More of be responsible for yourself. How you get the bulk of the welfare claimants to vote for that is a little harder. I am not against the welfare state, I am against how big it has become and we need to stop and have a reset. I will be honest, this week I had a very efficient interaction with the passport office. That is once every 10 years. But this week I have been dealing with highways and planners on different jobs. Sheer frustration and stupidity in abundance. The sooner we get the “civil servants” they are there to help not hinder we will see an enonomic miracle. Stop preventing people from doing things. Let people decide how they want to spend there money rather than let the state decide.
Defence, education and health are the main functions of government, empty the bins that of local authorities. Every thing else is fluff and can go!!
 
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Jimoz

Well-known member
Ive joined advance. Hoping rupert lowe joins. He seems to be the only one talking my language. Reform just seem like tories 2.0 to me but maybe ill be pleasantly surprised?

Also joined restore britain but that is not a political party.
 
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DaveDCB

Well-known member
I am a Reform Party member who joined when Nigel agreed to stand at the last election. I would describe myself as a religious conservative voter.
The problem for me was the direction of travel that the conservatives took during Covid. They moved too far towards the center left. I blame Boris and Sunal for that. Liz Truss was going to drag them back but failed. The bulk of the party had forced the move to the center and paid the price.
What I see with Reform is not a fully though out set of policies. But a clear direction in which the travel will be. Less state and less tax. More of be responsible for yourself. How you get the bulk of the welfare claimants to vote for that is a little harder. I am not against the welfare state, I am against how big it has become and we need to stop and have a reset. I will be honest, this week I had a very efficient interaction with the passport office. That is once every 10 years. But this week I have been dealing with highways and planners on different jobs. Sheer frustration and stupidity in abundance. The sooner we get the “civil servants” they are there to help not hinder we will see an enonomic miracle. Stop preventing people from doing things. Let people decide how they want to spend there money rather than let the state decide.
Defence, education and health are the main functions of government, empty the bins that of local authorities. Every thing else is fluff and can go!!
This echos everyone else I hear talking of the civic servants - they are here to work FOR us not against us all the time!! Planners are at the top of that list and need a real big kick up the a$$!!!!
 
Vinpetrol

Vinpetrol

Well-known member
I am a Reform Party member who joined when Nigel agreed to stand at the last election. I would describe myself as a religious conservative voter.
The problem for me was the direction of travel that the conservatives took during Covid. They moved too far towards the center left. I blame Boris and Sunal for that. Liz Truss was going to drag them back but failed. The bulk of the party had forced the move to the center and paid the price.
What I see with Reform is not a fully though out set of policies. But a clear direction in which the travel will be. Less state and less tax. More of be responsible for yourself. How you get the bulk of the welfare claimants to vote for that is a little harder. I am not against the welfare state, I am against how big it has become and we need to stop and have a reset. I will be honest, this week I had a very efficient interaction with the passport office. That is once every 10 years. But this week I have been dealing with highways and planners on different jobs. Sheer frustration and stupidity in abundance. The sooner we get the “civil servants” they are there to help not hinder we will see an enonomic miracle. Stop preventing people from doing things. Let people decide how they want to spend there money rather than let the state decide.
Defence, education and health are the main functions of government, empty the bins that of local authorities. Every thing else is fluff and can go!!
most bodies making a living from the public purse needs a wake up call. I have relative working from home for publicly owned utility company and the waste is ridiculous . The stories he tells me about the staff and managers are unbelievable. One manager working from home , email contact only was working from the south of France. All these bodies now hiding behind a wall of making it virtually impossible to actually speak to someone.
It seems that in the last few years public service bodies think it’s ok to not take calls and to not respond to emails . Well it’s NOT FECKIN OK ! They are supposed to work for us .
I’m currently dealing with planning dept , I’m in for planning for workshop . The date it should have been dealt with has passed . I’ve had no neighbour comments . Rather than deal with it theyve asked my architect to clarify my intended use of containers in garden .
Containers have got feck all to do with the garage planning and no one has complained about them so what the feck !!
I’ve been trying to call them for 3 weeks and Ive emailed with no response .
Like a lot of us on here I’ve had loads of dealings with the planning dept and roads dept over the years but they were a lot better than this to deal with in the past and this is in a time when it’s supposed to be being made simpler .
No wonder it takes forever to get anything done here in the uk .
We can’t even bury our dead in a timely manner for some reason .
In Ireland 3 days and your planted .
I’m voting Reform .but I think they will do well to do anything about it . I believe that the issues are deep within public service set up and managers who would of managed staff at the forefront dealing with public are not in it anymore and the managers now are of the same attitude as the staff . I know there are going to be exceptions but they are fast proving the rule
 
Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

Well-known member
most bodies making a living from the public purse needs a wake up call. I have relative working from home for publicly owned utility company and the waste is ridiculous . The stories he tells me about the staff and managers are unbelievable. One manager working from home , email contact only was working from the south of France. All these bodies now hiding behind a wall of making it virtually impossible to actually speak to someone.
It seems that in the last few years public service bodies think it’s ok to not take calls and to not respond to emails . Well it’s NOT FECKIN OK ! They are supposed to work for us .
I’m currently dealing with planning dept , I’m in for planning for workshop . The date it should have been dealt with has passed . I’ve had no neighbour comments . Rather than deal with it theyve asked my architect to clarify my intended use of containers in garden .
Containers have got feck all to do with the garage planning and no one has complained about them so what the feck !!
I’ve been trying to call them for 3 weeks and Ive emailed with no response .
Like a lot of us on here I’ve had loads of dealings with the planning dept and roads dept over the years but they were a lot better than this to deal with in the past and this is in a time when it’s supposed to be being made simpler .
No wonder it takes forever to get anything done here in the uk .
We can’t even bury our dead in a timely manner for some reason .
In Ireland 3 days and your planted .
I’m voting Reform .but I think they will do well to do anything about it . I believe that the issues are deep within public service set up and managers who would of managed staff at the forefront dealing with public are not in it anymore and the managers now are of the same attitude as the staff . I know there are going to be exceptions but they are fast proving the rule
Only going to get worse with liebour in power...
They run the show.... absolutely entrenched ...worth a look into how powerful some are!

Some will hate this but reform is our only hope..only other party with a hope of tackling liebour head on. Are they perfect .....no but show me an alternative.
 
Quattromike

Quattromike

Well member-known
We have 4 apprentices at various stages and various disciplines and there's hardly a week goes by that we don't have a visit from either a lecturer or administrative person to see one of them. I can't believe sometimes why we have so many visits from the college. but then they make their own timetables and get money from the government for it and just keep on going round places with apprentices filling up their day and using up other people's time 🤔, jeez I'm on a right tirade of various things just now 😅
 
Vinpetrol

Vinpetrol

Well-known member
We have 4 apprentices at various stages and various disciplines and there's hardly a week goes by that we don't have a visit from either a lecturer or administrative person to see one of them. I can't believe sometimes why we have so many visits from the college. but then they make their own timetables and get money from the government for it and just keep on going round places with apprentices filling up their day and using up other people's time 🤔, jeez I'm on a right tirade of various things just now 😅
Thing is Mike when your busy you don’t notice half the bad service we get here and there and we just put up with it but when it happens a few times in a row from different agencies you realise It has now become the norm
 
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Russell

Well-known member
I am a Reform Party member
Defence, education and health are the main functions of government, empty the bins that of local authorities. Every thing else is fluff and can go!!
Doesn't Farage want to privatise the nhs? Have you got health insurance in place?
Where I live the average wage for the employed is £12-£15 per hour and rent is a £1000+ plus a month.
A quick google shows a family health insurance plan in the us is £1500 a month. Do you think people will want to pay that? Is that progress?
Do you like the way ICE have just shot an unarmed mother in the head for parking in the way and a male nurse shot dead for protesting?
I think trump is supposed to be sending money to Farage in one way or another so it looks like that is what we will get with Trump2.0/Farage.
What has Farage said about the recent events in the USA?
 
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Vinpetrol

Vinpetrol

Well-known member
Doesn't Farage want to privatise the nhs? Have you got health insurance in place?
Where I live the average wage for the employed is £12-£15 per hour and rent is a £1000+ plus a month.
A quick google shows a family health insurance plan in the us is £1500 a month. Do you think people will want to pay that? Is that progress?
Do you like the way ICE have just shot an unarmed mother in the head for parking in the way and a male nurse shot dead for protesting?
I think trump is supposed to be sending money to Farage in one way or another so it looks like that is what we will get with Trump2.0/Farage.
What has Farage said about the recent events in the USA?
So what’s a better solution ? I don’t vote for Reform lightly as a son of immigrants but our whole system needs a shake up. Quoting what’s happening in USA isn’t helpful in influencing what way we might vote here . For a start off none of our general police force is armed .
We need change and we only have a few options to vote for . We have to pick one . Labour under Starmer are not the answer in my opinion , Tories are dead in the water , Reform are offering change . It’s not difficult to see how they will get the vote .
 
TiltyShaun

TiltyShaun

Well-known member
Doesn't Farage want to privatise the nhs? Have you got health insurance in place?
Where I live the average wage for the employed is £12-£15 per hour and rent is a £1000+ plus a month.
A quick google shows a family health insurance plan in the us is £1500 a month. Do you think people will want to pay that? Is that progress?
Do you like the way ICE have just shot an unarmed mother in the head for parking in the way and a male nurse shot dead for protesting?
I think trump is supposed to be sending money to Farage in one way or another so it looks like that is what we will get with Trump2.0/Farage.
What has Farage said about the recent events in the USA?
Yes, we have private medical insurance. Have had it for many years and yes the premium keeps going up. In my experience the NHS works very well in an emergency. Long term conditions not so well. My neighbor had a major shoulder operation a year ago. He had an MRI to check on if in July last year. He finally had a consultation with his surgeon last week. The problem we have is there is not competition on medical care because we have the NHS. There is no need to improve, there is no need to be competitive, because there is no incentive to be better.
As for all the ICE stuff, the country is completely divided over immigration. There officers routinely carry guns, as do members of the public. If you drive off after being told to get out of your car, don’t be surprised you get shot at. If you disturb officers going about there lawful business, don’t be surprised if you get shot at. Whilst I think the first was misguided by her wife saying “drive baby drive” and hitting the accelerator, I haven’t dived deeply into the second incident. I am not certain, but I seem to think I have seen something that said 1200 people a year are shoot in America by police. Not confuse ICE with what is all ready a problem when everyone randomly carries weapons. You could consider that in this country we are like that we only have a knife problem.
 
Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

Well-known member
Yes, we have private medical insurance. Have had it for many years and yes the premium keeps going up. In my experience the NHS works very well in an emergency. Long term conditions not so well. My neighbor had a major shoulder operation a year ago. He had an MRI to check on if in July last year. He finally had a consultation with his surgeon last week. The problem we have is there is not competition on medical care because we have the NHS. There is no need to improve, there is no need to be competitive, because there is no incentive to be better.
As for all the ICE stuff, the country is completely divided over immigration. There officers routinely carry guns, as do members of the public. If you drive off after being told to get out of your car, don’t be surprised you get shot at. If you disturb officers going about there lawful business, don’t be surprised if you get shot at. Whilst I think the first was misguided by her wife saying “drive baby drive” and hitting the accelerator, I haven’t dived deeply into the second incident. I am not certain, but I seem to think I have seen something that said 1200 people a year are shoot in America by police. Not confuse ICE with what is all ready a problem when everyone randomly carries weapons. You could consider that in this country we are like that we only have a knife problem.
Bang on. And Obama did the same but dont remember ww3 breaking out over that

Simple terms ...trump said he'd stop immigration.80m folk voted him in. That's how it works.
Look up Minnesota fraud . And look at what unchecked illegal immigration does to towns.
Now tell me what the solution is without removing them.
If your really bored read the asylum seeker story this week that killed that poor lass here ..if that was your daughter how would you feel.
 
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Russell

Well-known member
I dont know what the answer is but im sure its not farage .
If we didnt have the nhs then i would be in debt for the rest of my life because of an eye injury i sustained at a time in life when i wouldnt have been able to afford health insurance. I think the problem is the elite driving prices up for everything and screwing over the working class and then scapegoating the weakest , in this case the immigrants. Have you seen Gary economics or Richard J Murphy on youtube?
They make a good argument that the elite are the problem.
Anyone looking to tackle inequality will get my vote.
Zak Polanski sounds like he might although im not sure about scrapping trident.
 
TiltyShaun

TiltyShaun

Well-known member
I dont know what the answer is but im sure its not farage .
If we didnt have the nhs then i would be in debt for the rest of my life because of an eye injury i sustained at a time in life when i wouldnt have been able to afford health insurance. I think the problem is the elite driving prices up for everything and screwing over the working class and then scapegoating the weakest , in this case the immigrants. Have you seen Gary economics or Richard J Murphy on youtube?
They make a good argument that the elite are the problem.
Anyone looking to tackle inequality will get my vote.
Zak Polanski sounds like he might although im not sure about scrapping trident.
I don’t think we are going to see the outright end of the NHS. But certainly we need to have a think about some of the things we do. Firstly, in the event of an accident, the NHS should always be there. Many years ago people used to get tax relief on private health care insurance, it was scrapped. Start by bringing that back. Secondly, we are very fortunate that our daughter was an IVF funded by the NHS, after they failed to correctly diagnose the issues and we had that done privately. I am not convinced that IVF is something that the NHS should fund.
Unfortunately inequality is a fact of life. Welfare is not the answer to leveling up, that comes down to personal responsibility. Certainly welfare for those that need it, but to have 50% of the working population on some form of benefit is not the answer. You can only take so much off so few. As I have said before, the state is failing, schools, NHS, police, councils. We need a complete rethink on how big the state has become and push back.
Nigel may not be the answer. But I am sure it is not Zac. Legalize drugs, rent controls, no borders, just a few of the ideas he has floated on the BBC this morning. I am not sure what else he has up his sleeve but I can’t see him or the Lib Dems heading into No 10 at the next election.
 
Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

Well-known member
I don’t think we are going to see the outright end of the NHS. But certainly we need to have a think about some of the things we do. Firstly, in the event of an accident, the NHS should always be there. Many years ago people used to get tax relief on private health care insurance, it was scrapped. Start by bringing that back. Secondly, we are very fortunate that our daughter was an IVF funded by the NHS, after they failed to correctly diagnose the issues and we had that done privately. I am not convinced that IVF is something that the NHS should fund.
Unfortunately inequality is a fact of life. Welfare is not the answer to leveling up, that comes down to personal responsibility. Certainly welfare for those that need it, but to have 50% of the working population on some form of benefit is not the answer. You can only take so much off so few. As I have said before, the state is failing, schools, NHS, police, councils. We need a complete rethink on how big the state has become and push back.
Nigel may not be the answer. But I am sure it is not Zac. Legalize drugs, rent controls, no borders, just a few of the ideas he has floated on the BBC this morning. I am not sure what else he has up his sleeve but I can’t see him or the Lib Dems heading into No 10 at the next election.
Zacs smoking something for sure
 
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