Gabion walls

[diggerjones]

Anyone got any knowledge of these. Customer is thinking about it. Thanks

 

[sjs5060]

Done loads, what do you want to know. Tbh they’re pretty straightforward but pretty labour intensive. I try an steer them to Legio blocks now, usually clad in timber. Can usually swing them in in half the time with only 2 of us.

 

[diggerjones]

Done loads, what do you want to know. Tbh they’re pretty straightforward but pretty labour intensive. I try an steer them to Legio blocks now, usually clad in timber. Can usually swing them in in half the time with only 2 of us.

I take it you don't need a concrete footing for gabion walls ?
Would you need them for lego blocks? What stone did you face them with as your fairly local to me i think

 

[TiltyShaun]

You don’t need a concrete foundation. 150mm of type 1.

 

[TiltyShaun]

I get the like the pre made spirals to join them up. I get them from a supplier called Gabion mean man.
I prefer to make a tidy job of the face by hand packing. My nephew doesn’t really have the eye so I pack and he fills.

 

[sjs5060]

I take it you don't need a concrete footing for gabion walls ?
Would you need them for lego blocks? What stone did you face them with as your fairly local to me i think

No you don’t need a concrete footing, but you don’t for legio blocks either. my supplier gets me 20 ton loads of graded about 3-8” stone they sell as Gabon stone, we just pick through it to build the face. Tbh you could use any stone as long as its big enough.

I get the like the pre made spirals to join them up. I get them from a supplier called Gabion mean man.
I prefer to make a tidy job of the face by hand packing. My nephew doesn’t really have the eye so I pack and he fills.

I don’t like the spirals, cant seem to get them to stay in shape well enough, also baskets need plenty of internal bracing to be up to speck.
deffo have to pack the face though, no other way to make them look good.
also don’t bother with thin wire ones, 4mm the best ones

 

[TiltyShaun]

Got any pics @sjs5060 of completed Lego walls?
How much are you usually paying for the blocks?

 

[Quattromike]

Got any pics @sjs5060 of completed Lego walls?
How much are you usually paying for the blocks?

We built a wsl this year to mount a canopy on (which still hasn't arrived but don't get me started) and is super quick to put up. We bought 1800x600x600 Legos from fairhurst concrete, 3 artic truck loads, delivered in 2 weeks iirc £85ea delivered to us up in northeast Scotland. They also supplied a lifting bracket/hook. We cheaped out and left some spaces here and there to save approx 6 blocks plus will help with ventilation

 

[Quattromike]

Our last retaining effort was short on space so went for concrete panels in between columns concreted in.

Still got the fence to go up which is hanging on the back of the panels.

 

[diggerjones]

No you don’t need a concrete footing, but you don’t for legio blocks either. my supplier gets me 20 ton loads of graded about 3-8” stone they sell as Gabon stone, we just pick through it to build the face. Tbh you could use any stone as long as its big enough.


I don’t like the spirals, cant seem to get them to stay in shape well enough, also baskets need plenty of internal bracing to be up to speck.
deffo have to pack the face though, no other way to make them look good.
also don’t bother with thin wire ones, 4mm the best ones

Got any pictures of the stone. How much a ton.
The customer is on about getting cages with a panel inside. So just use face material on front

 

[V8Druid]

We built a wsl this year to mount a canopy on (which still hasn't arrived but don't get me started) and is super quick to put up. We bought 1800x600x600 Legos from fairhurst concrete, 3 artic truck loads, delivered in 2 weeks iirc £85ea delivered to us up in northeast Scotland. They also supplied a lifting bracket/hook. We cheaped out and left some spaces here and there to save approx 6 blocks plus will help with ventilation ☺

those legos were a good price .. delivered ... assume this is to go under your invisible polytunnel Mike ... how many courses high ? .... I've a job I'm considering lego-ing.
interested to hear that you don't need conc. under the lego blocks .... 'spose they sit better on a softer bed

 

[craig]

@diggerjones do you get the Cheshire farm mart? (appears to have changed its name to the farmart)

http://thefarmart.co.uk

There is loads of people advertising lego blocks in there.

 

[Giles]

done lots of both, lego go in a lot quicker but done right the gab ions look the best if you get the thicker cages tie them right and don't let them sag etc

lego block local to me are 60 each delivered from Mycocks go in fast but generally need facing etc

another supplier doing stone faced lego blocks which I haven't used but look good

 

[Giles]

as has been said on bigger walls we use the precast panels and then stone the front looks smart is quick and cheap

 

[GazCro]

How high a wall you building?

 

[TiltyShaun]

as has been said on bigger walls we use the precast panels and then stone the front looks smart is quick and cheap

Got to be honest that does look smart. Only thing that worries me is how well it stand up. Did you get an engineer design or is it a client suck it and see?

 

[GazCro]

Got to be honest that does look smart. Only thing that worries me is how well it stand up. Did you get an engineer design or is it a client suck it and see?

That's my thoughts too. The foundation spec for a hollow block retaining wall can get ott without being silly high and thats full length of the wall.

 

[Quattromike]

Is it not what ever you have sticking up you need as much poking down when it comes to retaining ground.

 

[V8Druid]

plenty of drainage behind it is vital, whatever it is holding it all back

 

[GazCro]

Is it not what ever you have sticking up you need as much poking down when it comes to retaining ground.

Or toe on front of found. Can have toe on the back but it's needs to be bigger than on the front. General rule for retaining walls without needing engineers spec is height can be 4 times the width. If you look into the spec for the lego blocks you can't go v high at only a single course.
Drainage is key whatever you do mind as said already. That's one thing gabions are good for.