hiluxman
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I did do and I wasn't.
Daf wanted 1500 plus vat per side panel.
And 2nd hand cabs were just as bad, advertised as good, soon as you got there it isn't.
Hence why I won't be doing it on the grab.
Daf wanted 1500 plus vat per side panel.
And 2nd hand cabs were just as bad, advertised as good, soon as you got there it isn't.
Hence why I won't be doing it on the grab.
JD450A
Feral as Fk 🐾
I have a feeling a complete bare cab is about £2500. Could be wrong it's been a while
Lancs Lad
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Ah yes, thank you, mysterious stranger, for blessing our humble forum with this thrilling deep dive into payload capacities—truly the content we were all desperately craving while discussing literally anything else. I, for one, had been lying awake at night wondering whether the 18-tonne rigid could truly handle the existential burden of a 13-tonne excavator, and lo, you have descended from the heavens (or whatever spam-server basement you inhabit) to enlighten us.
Unfortunately, despite the sheer poetry of your truck-spec sermon, this appears to be yet another drive-by promotional spam post. So before the entire membership gets swept up in the emotional rollercoaster of axle loads and mid-sized machinery logistics, I’ll go ahead and flag this for removal.
But genuinely—thank you for reminding us that even in 2025, bots still believe that dumping random trade-magazine paragraphs into unrelated threads is a winning marketing strategy. Inspirational stuff.
Post reported. Carry on, everyone.
May or may not have used ai to my advantage
doobin
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I'm calling this as AI too. It's Rory's post above it rewritten in English rather than Cornish.
Seriously. It's good. But I think AI.
What bloke on a digger forum calls themself 'animebeast'? There's dedicated forums for that kind of perversion.
Lancs Lad
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Agreed. It's damn good tbf I just spat that out of chatgpt for a laugh above . Still hardly see what they gaining with this sh*t tho
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Smiffy
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Besides that, most 26t plant lorries struggle to carry a 14t machine as so many are fitted with lightweight front axles. So they are nigh on impossible to load correctly and even then only carry around 14t so can't take much in the way of buckets.
HuntingHicap
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Was about to chirp up with that. We run 13s at work and they are only delivered on 32t trucks as will overload front axle on 26t.
Simon edwards
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This backs up my thinking really and is why I’m going for an 18 tonner,My kit is all under 10 tons and I know a few others local to me with similar sized kit which I’m pretty sure I can do moves for,theextra capacity of a six wheeler is offset by the increased fuel/ running costs and initial price.I reckon it’s a good starting point to see how it goes .(Still got to find the right wagon yet though!)
sjs5060
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I’m like a poor man’s furniss
I’ve tried a few different trucks over the years past couple of years, somebody talked me in to buying this one trying to tell me it will do more than just move machines, which it will. But the fact is 99% of the time I find it just takes too long trying to run muck/stone about, and you simply can’t compete on price with the 8w grab lads that fight for work and to be fair to them the ones I use provide me that good of a service it’s not worth the effort trying to do it myself. That’s just me though and I’m sure others find it different. I do however do a lot of 1 day jobs so can’t do without the truck for moving machines. Fwiw I’m planning a different machine in the new year and would like to move it about myself, and 18 ton beavertail would manage it (just) and the difference in running costs to what I have would be negligible, so I think you’re on the right track Simon, I will add though make sure you get one with the 10 ton front axle as you can easily overload the lighter ones if you don’t get your load placement perfect when you’re carrying nr capacity
craig
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You will really struggle to find a 10t front axle on an 18t, 9t will be a bit more common, most truck now days have 7.5t sometimes 8t as the standard axle. Even if its plated at 7100, as long as the design weight is higher, a notification and tyre upgrade will uprate the axle.View attachment 77978
I’m like a poor man’s furniss
I’ve tried a few different trucks over the years past couple of years, somebody talked me in to buying this one trying to tell me it will do more than just move machines, which it will. But the fact is 99% of the time I find it just takes too long trying to run muck/stone about, and you simply can’t compete on price with the 8w grab lads that fight for work and to be fair to them the ones I use provide me that good of a service it’s not worth the effort trying to do it myself. That’s just me though and I’m sure others find it different. I do however do a lot of 1 day jobs so can’t do without the truck for moving machines. Fwiw I’m planning a different machine in the new year and would like to move it about myself, and 18 ton beavertail would manage it (just) and the difference in running costs to what I have would be negligible, so I think you’re on the right track Simon, I will add though make sure you get one with the 10 ton front axle as you can easily overload the lighter ones if you don’t get your load placement perfect when you’re carrying nr capacity
My experience with a beavertail/crane is its too big for a small/day/local jobs, finding some where to park, not in the way etc.
I`ve got rid of my 7.5t Hitachi, even though I can move it, for me its generally easier to user the 2.5t or tramp the Duckling.
sjs5060
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I agree, which is the reason when we’re ready we’re going to build our own really short beavertail, will probably end up no longer than the pickup and trailer
Furniss
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Why didnt you think a hookloader suited your needs ?
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Weaknee
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What weight will that take could you put a 2.8ton on it or would that put you over?View attachment 77978
I’m like a poor man’s furniss
I’ve tried a few different trucks over the years past couple of years, somebody talked me in to buying this one trying to tell me it will do more than just move machines, which it will. But the fact is 99% of the time I find it just takes too long trying to run muck/stone about, and you simply can’t compete on price with the 8w grab lads that fight for work and to be fair to them the ones I use provide me that good of a service it’s not worth the effort trying to do it myself. That’s just me though and I’m sure others find it different. I do however do a lot of 1 day jobs so can’t do without the truck for moving machines. Fwiw I’m planning a different machine in the new year and would like to move it about myself, and 18 ton beavertail would manage it (just) and the difference in running costs to what I have would be negligible, so I think you’re on the right track Simon, I will add though make sure you get one with the 10 ton front axle as you can easily overload the lighter ones if you don’t get your load placement perfect when you’re carrying nr capacity
hiluxman
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8stud axles so could be 10t or a 12t truck.
JD450A
Feral as Fk 🐾
Be a 10t on those tyres me thinks.
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Weaknee
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Always wondered what a 7.5 hookloader could realisticaly carry or if towing a trailer is the way
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Smiffy
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Somewhere just over 2t.
A daft lf45 with steel drop side tipper with 24in sides carries 2.75t.
A 7.2t iveco daily will carry over 1t more. 12t is really the smallest practical lorry for construction.
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Weaknee
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So really a trailer makes more sense financially
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Smiffy
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Depends what your doing.
As said the iveco daily 7.2t will hold 4t but is essentially a van not a lorry.
A 12t lorry has the same dimensions and turning circle as a 7.5t but can in some variants carry nearly 7t.
A 7.5t lorry has far greater maneuverability than a long wheelbase transit. Especially a double cab.
A lorry can chute into wheel barrows which is incredibly useful and a huge time saver.
The lorry is far more friendly to being loaded with lumps of concrete and being unloaded by a digger. Also they tow a trailer unbelievably well by comparison to a pickup or similar.
Also it gives you the ability to take a machine with you and simultaneously take materials with you or muck away out. Or you can tow a machine and put one in the lorry such as a dumper or mini loader.
hiluxman
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But a trailer vs a Roro are 2 totally different things.
If your just using a trailer to transport a digger then you'd look at somthing like my 7t beavertail that carries 3.4t legally...that's a better comparison.
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