Left hooker
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Still no viable electric pickup for towing livestock can't sit waiting for a charge with animals on board
V8Druid
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so what they do ? hire a generator
Electric coach stranded at Eden Project due to no charge points
The Carbon Battle Bus had travelled from London to Cornwall but needs to recharge before it can continue on its tourwww.cornwalllive.com
V8Druid
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do any leccy chariots have a decent towing ability and how badly does it decimate their range ??
craig
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What kind of supply does it need to charge in 40 mins?
V8Druid
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V8Druid
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can see a big potential market ........... for converting these things to good ol' V8 power
Left hooker
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Powerfab
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Agreed, and this is going to me a major headache all too soon.
Electric pickup's and 4wd trucks seem to only be in development in America. Ford seems to be at the forefront at the moment with their F150 electric, but as we all know, Yank tanks are far to big for our roads.
None of the existing, Toyota, Isuzu, Nissan etc have anything on the horizon.
It may well be that pickups become a smaller niche, priced out by greater taxation and the removal of the VAT tax breaks, perhaps forcing users into the 7 tonne truck market.
Regy53
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your need to be at a charge station for that circa 50-100kw (there is 150kw in the network)
at home your grab 7kw so if you do less miles you can plug in a few times a week and charge for pence
if you need to charge at a station etc the cost is a lot more again depends on place but circa 40p a kw. The Skoda did 5miles to a kw earlier. Thats 5p a kw from home
Powerfab
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Very few Graham. Most don't even offer a towbar option and have no warranty for such.
The Volkswagen iD4 has a 1200kg towing capability, likely Ross's Skoda will be the same. I haven't seen any figures, but I'd guess at a trailer reducing range by at least 50% straight off.
Left hooker
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So every farmer and horse owner will have to do class 2 licence to move animals around
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Brendan
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Cost is a major factor, electric cars just aren't accessable.
Look at the Skoda citigo the electric version is double the cost.
If you want a 6 or 7 seater I think Tesla is the only option but at 80k+ your average people carrier buyer can't do it.
The pickups coming to market are no better the rivian is north of 70k.
To be honest I did reserve a cyber truck but I know it will not be the version that the USA is getting as its far too big and won't meet European regs. So a UK version is years off but if it was the rumoured 40k it's potentially viable as the last few months have been seeing at least a tank a week. So if it can meet the claimed range and cost the fuel cost saving would cover the finance.
Only issue to take on board is once there is a decent sized share of electric vehicles on the road it will be the change to a pay per mile system to fill the void in lost revenue from ved and fuel
Look at the Skoda citigo the electric version is double the cost.
If you want a 6 or 7 seater I think Tesla is the only option but at 80k+ your average people carrier buyer can't do it.
The pickups coming to market are no better the rivian is north of 70k.
To be honest I did reserve a cyber truck but I know it will not be the version that the USA is getting as its far too big and won't meet European regs. So a UK version is years off but if it was the rumoured 40k it's potentially viable as the last few months have been seeing at least a tank a week. So if it can meet the claimed range and cost the fuel cost saving would cover the finance.
Only issue to take on board is once there is a decent sized share of electric vehicles on the road it will be the change to a pay per mile system to fill the void in lost revenue from ved and fuel
V8Druid
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heard a whisper ealier that @Mogman is working out HTF to shoehorn this into his truck
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Powerfab
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I don't doubt that the government would like to regulate this whole area more and tax accordingly.
Regy53
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the biggest issue i see is after a while Mr government will require some tax that hes losing.
The grant from 5k is now 2.5k as example. (needs to be under a certain amount) but as it stands its very beneficial. Interesting to see many have looked at it. It will never replicate a works vehicle though
The grant from 5k is now 2.5k as example. (needs to be under a certain amount) but as it stands its very beneficial. Interesting to see many have looked at it. It will never replicate a works vehicle though
Left hooker
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From an eco side of things owning 2 vehicles to maintain don't make sense where's a trailer can be dropped off and vehicle driven as a mode of transport
GazCro
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Weight is gonna be the big issue for commercial vehicles. The 40kwh battery in a nissan leaf weighs about 260kg. How many of those is a pickup and trailer gonna need to cover any distance let alone a truck. Interestingly there's as much energy in 4 litres of diesel/petrol as there is in a 40kwh battery although admittedly an internal combustion engine is fairly inefficient so you need to burn a bit more fuel than that to get 40kwh worth out of it. It does imho highlight how to be greener on one hand you do have to be highly inefficient with the other. Ultimately uk govt has signed us up to some unachievable global emissions carry on which is what's driving this.
V8Druid
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see the other night one of the motors being advertised needed a 350KW station for a rapid charge
... which doesn't appear to exist then ?350Kw FFS!! ..... that is some input
'bout time ... get all the donkey boxes off the road ..... have said before a local Giles has binned his stock lorry and now drags a sodding gert stock trailer around behind a humongous JD, travelling 40-50 miles with it to some markets/abattoirs .. real legal that !!
V8Druid
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V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
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