V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
....... drowning in debt that they can not .. and will never be able to, afford to repay
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OBL
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It started me thinking of a lot of solar on a big old bale trailer for ease of grounds maintenance and overcoming seasonal shade... but until they raise the feed in tarrif to something remotely useful or I can justify some big batteries it’s pointless.
I could cancel out all my yearly electrical use with solar sold back to grid, just not at the times I need it. Surely subsidies on feed in should exist if I could be a net provider rather than user? Would cost around £10k (which looking at the current rate of price escalation would not take long to pay for itself)
I’m an all electric house with very low energy needs 2500kwh for heating and h/w (average is 12000 kWh) could easily be self sufficient if storage wasn’t an issue.
ASHP with underfloor running at 30 degrees and double the insulation whilst being anal about air tightness will literally reduce energy use by two thirds.
it’s cool in summer and toasty in winter.
Surely now people will catch on that this is the only way to build in the future?
If a decent house lasts 200 years and building to the above standard costs an extra £20k per house but uses one third of the energy for its lifetime?
pays for the difference in building costs in 5 years
I could cancel out all my yearly electrical use with solar sold back to grid, just not at the times I need it. Surely subsidies on feed in should exist if I could be a net provider rather than user? Would cost around £10k (which looking at the current rate of price escalation would not take long to pay for itself)
I’m an all electric house with very low energy needs 2500kwh for heating and h/w (average is 12000 kWh) could easily be self sufficient if storage wasn’t an issue.
ASHP with underfloor running at 30 degrees and double the insulation whilst being anal about air tightness will literally reduce energy use by two thirds.
it’s cool in summer and toasty in winter.
Surely now people will catch on that this is the only way to build in the future?
If a decent house lasts 200 years and building to the above standard costs an extra £20k per house but uses one third of the energy for its lifetime?
pays for the difference in building costs in 5 years
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Smiffy
Well-known member
If a decent house lasts 200 years and building to the above standard costs an extra £20k per house but uses one third of the energy for its lifetime?
pays for the difference in building costs in 5 years
The problem is that the houses being built arnt being built for the customers benefit. They are for the developers benefit. Therefore A) they arnt going to waste 20k if they don't have to and B) they certainly arnt built with a 200year life in mind. As long as they reach the end of warranty they are happy
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OBL
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Absolutely (unfortunately) true!
I read that Persimmon made £66k profit per house last year... is it really that hard for them to make “just” £46k and build something that’ll be inhabitable in 100 years?
Lancs Lad
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Absolutely bang on. Should see the sh*t that's been banged up here. And that's the "proper" houses..wtf the shared "affordable" stuff must be like
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
nah ... it's a decent wedge for yer average 'Legoland' hutch .. deffo more than 10%
Regy53
I like cake
Sold my electric car on Saturday, went for £2.5k more than I bought it last August.
I miss it, but no point in keeping it when the van will probably be more economical by spring?
I thought it best to be ahead of the tide of imminent sales...
I do feel for the private buyers who have expensive EV’s on order having justified the purchase on grounds of running costs. Obviously still stacks up for a company car due to BIK but what will that look like in two years?
Anyone brave enough to bet against electric being £1 kWh by next winter?
Much more and it’ll cost less to fuel a heavy V8 than a Tesla!
This is only true if you
1, need to charge via the network
2, dont have a sutible electic car electric plan.
I charge my car at home via octopus Go, its 7.5p a kw at 12-4 am.
The other day i picked my Dad up, 100 mile round trip at 2.8miles a kw ( many cars are better than this but mine is quickest i can get
)so i used 35kw aka £2.57 of electric. I can claim £5 of electric use via the business
If i had my old range rover doing 25mpg the same trip at £1.80 a litre would have cost £32.68
Its going to take a lot of price increases to get electric the same price as diesel. If i did have to charge via the network this would of cost around £17.50 (50p a kw)
However the Skoda we have (fam mobile) does 4kw on a run and would have cost £1.87 to do 100 miles.
still hard to beat if you use your 100% tax write down also
TiltyShaun
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I think there average selling price was around £300k so 20% margin.
Biggest problem with the big house builders is they can bend the rules with building control by pre registration of large phases. They are putting foundations in for houses that won’t be built for several years to avoid the latest regulation changes.
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Smiffy
Well-known member
That's a lower price than I expected. The local developments are 600k and up for “affordable" housing.
TiltyShaun
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I go it wrong. And selling price £237k and 31.4% margin.
TiltyShaun
Well-known member
Still won’t tow my digger!! I have thought about getting a 2nd hand electric car for football runs but the capital cost still puts me off!!This is only true if you
1, need to charge via the network
2, dont have a sutible electic car electric plan.
I charge my car at home via octopus Go, its 7.5p a kw at 12-4 am.
The other day i picked my Dad up, 100 mile round trip at 2.8miles a kw ( many cars are better than this but mine is quickest i can get
so i used 35kw aka £2.57 of electric. I can claim £5 of electric use via the business
If i had my old range rover doing 25mpg the same trip at £1.80 a litre would have cost £32.68
Its going to take a lot of price increases to get electric the same price as diesel. If i did have to charge via the network this would of cost around £17.50 (50p a kw)
However the Skoda we have (fam mobile) does 4kw on a run and would have cost £1.87 to do 100 miles.
still hard to beat if you use your 100% tax write down also
doobin
Well-known member
Cheaper to give up football mate
TiltyShaun
Well-known member
The way we play it is not the cost that worries me!! Lack of entertainment more an issue!!Cheaper to give up football mate
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OBL
Well-known member
Oh yeah, if the main aim is taking tax free money out of the business then the electric cost uplift is pittance in the big picture! Especially if a Taycan or similar is requiredThis is only true if you
1, need to charge via the network
2, dont have a sutible electic car electric plan.
I charge my car at home via octopus Go, its 7.5p a kw at 12-4 am.
The other day i picked my Dad up, 100 mile round trip at 2.8miles a kw ( many cars are better than this but mine is quickest i can get
so i used 35kw aka £2.57 of electric. I can claim £5 of electric use via the business
If i had my old range rover doing 25mpg the same trip at £1.80 a litre would have cost £32.68
Its going to take a lot of price increases to get electric the same price as diesel. If i did have to charge via the network this would of cost around £17.50 (50p a kw)
However the Skoda we have (fam mobile) does 4kw on a run and would have cost £1.87 to do 100 miles.
still hard to beat if you use your 100% tax write down also
I had one for cheap family transport and commuting. For the personal miles I do I may as well have something more useful on the fleet that earns something.
I’d have kept mine longer perhaps if we weren’t at peak secondhand values. Although admittedly my crystal ball is quite cloudy at times
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6feetdown
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Apparently there is a new scheme on the way but not very good looking at itIt started me thinking of a lot of solar on a big old bale trailer for ease of grounds maintenance and overcoming seasonal shade... but until they raise the feed in tarrif to something remotely useful or I can justify some big batteries it’s pointless.
I could cancel out all my yearly electrical use with solar sold back to grid, just not at the times I need it. Surely subsidies on feed in should exist if I could be a net provider rather than user? Would cost around £10k (which looking at the current rate of price escalation would not take long to pay for itself)
I’m an all electric house with very low energy needs 2500kwh for heating and h/w (average is 12000 kWh) could easily be self sufficient if storage wasn’t an issue.
ASHP with underfloor running at 30 degrees and double the insulation whilst being anal about air tightness will literally reduce energy use by two thirds.
it’s cool in summer and toasty in winter.
Surely now people will catch on that this is the only way to build in the future?
If a decent house lasts 200 years and building to the above standard costs an extra £20k per house but uses one third of the energy for its lifetime?
pays for the difference in building costs in 5 years
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
heard today on the box that anything to do with solar is zero rated on the VAT front????? is that true?
Bob
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re solar panels payments EON pays only for 50% of what I produce and gives me 5,38 p per kwh but charge me 23.36p per kwh so EON are making 18.22p per kwh out of me for storing it so I can use it later , EON are still ripping me off
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6feetdown
Well-known member
Yes I know someone about to install some
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