Cyberprog
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Can't imagine where she may have inherited that trait from...perhaps!!!!!.... she has the art of 'monging' off to a tee at times
Routy56
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IF you decide to replace the P38 don't get another Land Rover brand. Over the years I've had Disco 1, Disco 2 TD5, Disco 3 base manual and Disco 3 HSE. At the time loved everyone of them, but you need to know yer way round a box of spanners and have good finances
Disco needs the attention it deserves, when the weather improves.
I presume the second attempt was concreted in???
gonna put a deck together for our 6m x 3 m job and screw it to that ... and make it reasonably 'mobile' -- with suitable handling equipment and lift eyes strategically positioned
do not want a repeat of last night's take off ...... we were lucky to get away with such limited damage
Disco 1 with 300TDi was fantastic but rust started to take hold. Underpowered for towing 3.5T
Disco 2 with TD5. Great with more power. Auto box best for towing but overheated when working hard
Disco 3 TDV6 manual box and remap. Front lower and rear upper wishbone bushes wear out quickly.
You need a sense of humour if you need to change the gearbox with the body on.
For most serious stuff you take the body off.
But with complex CANBUS system you need serious diagnostics with a LR Licence to sort out and reset the DTCs.
Disco 3 HSE - the best of the bunch. Got this fairly new with some LR Warranty.
Fantastic drive and comfort. Loads of power with a remap
But LR wiggled out of the wishbone claim saying it was wear and tear
As above for the manual job with some serious DTC faults cropping up. Bong - limp mode and suspension lowers.
Not good if you are miles from base towing 3.5T
Loads of stupid faults, like front to rear brake hoses rusting out after 5 years. Turbo actuator going faulty with more DTCs
Worst of all the engine has a history of self destruct when the cam belt lets go. Usually just after being replaced - AVOID
BUT, 2 years ago I went to the dark side and bought a Nissan Navara Tekna 4 door pickup truck with Truckman hard top etc
Best thing I did for my business and pleasure use
So I recommend that when you replace the P38 you get a 4 door pickup truck
There are some great deals to be had on good used models and discussion can be had on all the different models
TiltyShaun
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I was hanging on your every word until you recommended a 4 door pick up!!IF you decide to replace the P38 don't get another Land Rover brand. Over the years I've had Disco 1, Disco 2 TD5, Disco 3 base manual and Disco 3 HSE. At the time loved everyone of them, but you need to know yer way round a box of spanners and have good finances
Disco 1 with 300TDi was fantastic but rust started to take hold. Underpowered for towing 3.5T
Disco 2 with TD5. Great with more power. Auto box best for towing but overheated when working hard
Disco 3 TDV6 manual box and remap. Front lower and rear upper wishbone bushes wear out quickly.
You need a sense of humour if you need to change the gearbox with the body on.
For most serious stuff you take the body off.
But with complex CANBUS system you need serious diagnostics with a LR Licence to sort out and reset the DTCs.
Disco 3 HSE - the best of the bunch. Got this fairly new with some LR Warranty.
Fantastic drive and comfort. Loads of power with a remap
But LR wiggled out of the wishbone claim saying it was wear and tear
As above for the manual job with some serious DTC faults cropping up. Bong - limp mode and suspension lowers.
Not good if you are miles from base towing 3.5T
Loads of stupid faults, like front to rear brake hoses rusting out after 5 years. Turbo actuator going faulty with more DTCs
Worst of all the engine has a history of self destruct when the cam belt lets go. Usually just after being replaced - AVOID
BUT, 2 years ago I went to the dark side and bought a Nissan Navara Tekna 4 door pickup truck with Truckman hard top etc
Best thing I did for my business and pleasure use
So I recommend that when you replace the P38 you get a 4 door pickup truck
There are some great deals to be had on good used models and discussion can be had on all the different models
F
fred
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or the new 'workhourse' defender for slinging the tools/sheep/dog in. They are only £100k!
On the plus side they are very eco as they have a 48v battery that powers an electric supercharger.....
On the plus side they are very eco as they have a 48v battery that powers an electric supercharger.....
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
P38's as far up the LR food chain as I want to progress TBH .... they were all nightmares on the electrics front after, apart from their mechanical heartachesIF you decide to replace the P38 don't get another Land Rover brand. Over the years I've had Disco 1, Disco 2 TD5, Disco 3 base manual and Disco 3 HSE. At the time loved everyone of them, but you need to know yer way round a box of spanners and have good finances
Disco 1 with 300TDi was fantastic but rust started to take hold. Underpowered for towing 3.5T
Disco 2 with TD5. Great with more power. Auto box best for towing but overheated when working hard
Disco 3 TDV6 manual box and remap. Front lower and rear upper wishbone bushes wear out quickly.
You need a sense of humour if you need to change the gearbox with the body on.
For most serious stuff you take the body off.
But with complex CANBUS system you need serious diagnostics with a LR Licence to sort out and reset the DTCs.
Disco 3 HSE - the best of the bunch. Got this fairly new with some LR Warranty.
Fantastic drive and comfort. Loads of power with a remap
But LR wiggled out of the wishbone claim saying it was wear and tear
As above for the manual job with some serious DTC faults cropping up. Bong - limp mode and suspension lowers.
Not good if you are miles from base towing 3.5T
Loads of stupid faults, like front to rear brake hoses rusting out after 5 years. Turbo actuator going faulty with more DTCs
Worst of all the engine has a history of self destruct when the cam belt lets go. Usually just after being replaced - AVOID
BUT, 2 years ago I went to the dark side and bought a Nissan Navara Tekna 4 door pickup truck with Truckman hard top etc
Best thing I did for my business and pleasure use
So I recommend that when you replace the P38 you get a 4 door pickup truck
There are some great deals to be had on good used models and discussion can be had on all the different models
bitterly regret outing my historics TBH .... both well sorted, gas-ed and'd've gone on for years - knew them inside out after rebuilding them .... but me savings were dwindling, 'fore I sold my site and "needs must", dictated they went.
as said, my 1990 disco'll get the attention it requires when i have the time and enthusiasm (plus some better weather) ... only has 40k on the clock and the best of engine variants (the bomb-proof 3.5 V8 - gas-ed) with zero off road use - ever.
never been a fan of the jap pick ups .... don't like the 'lying' in 'em driving position, although the newer ones are better than their early counterparts.
not a lot of alternatives out there though, unless you go Yank and SWMBO'd hate the size of 'em, not as she ever drives the P38 ... it has too many 'foibles' to let her loose in it .... EAS'd be a constant PITA ... she likes to turn the key and go, 'fore the key has returned to the 'run' position
Cyberprog
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I'm at a bit of a crossroads myself. Do I keep pouring money into my D3 or cut my losses?
With the clean air stuff in Bristol, it won't be long before I'll be unable to drive it in. If that means I can't get it into the office, that would be a bugger.
With the clean air stuff in Bristol, it won't be long before I'll be unable to drive it in. If that means I can't get it into the office, that would be a bugger.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
???? .... surely if your vehicle passes its MOT emissions, there ain't a lot they can do to prevent your legitimate use of the vehicle on the Queen's highway, for which we all pay far too much
and yeh, as said WTF do you buy????
...... bollaux to leccy 
Powerfab
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Don't say that, I just bought myself a clean 09 D3 Commercial at Christmas.
tbf, first thing I arranged was a gearbox flush to smooth out the auto box. Doubtless the first of many
expenses.It is a nice place to be a pilot though.
Powerfab
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Lancs Lad
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Haha, welcome to 2000, look at congestion charge etc, to right they charge let alone prevent???? .... surely if your vehicle passes its MOT emissions, there ain't a lot they can do to prevent your legitimate use of the vehicle on the Queen's highway, for which we all pay far too much
and yeh, as said WTF do you buy????
utter bollocks the way this whole clean air thing has gone. Ain't gonna be any option to leccy before to long, wtf you use to drag an Ifor with?The more I look into the future with my crystal ball the less I like the look of it
Charlie
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I've been loyal to land rover's all my life, disco's, range rovers, defenders, 101's, I've had them all and still have some but when my current wolf 90 needs a rebuild or major attention I think that will be my lot with them. They have all been good fun in their own ways but just no, not any more. The old ones have always leaked, broken and rusted and the modern new ones have always had a computer bleeping various faults at me and cost me a fortune. Enough is enough and I've got the pen out ready to sign the divorce papers.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
tha's clean Boyo
..... I just can't stand the anxiety levels of owning a modern LR ..... the 3.9 motor was bad enough, north of 60k on the clock and it was lap of the Gods, running a hand grenade with the pin out, for an engine ..... ditto the 2.5T and the 200/300TDI,s ... a nice place to be sat though ..... waiting for the recovery truck.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
but ........ WTF do you buy ??
F
fred
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ive got a strong urge to buy a restored series 2/3 V8 for the summer....
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
long time ago Swansea had huge grants to turn their town into zero emissions ..... multi millions and to have been in place by 2015 ..... LPG or leccy only inside the town limits ..... NEVER happened ... but they spent the bucks alrightHaha, welcome to 2000, look at congestion charge etc, to right they charge let alone prevent
The more I look into the future with my crystal ball the less I like the look of it
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
nah ....... not a series Fred ..... 90 at least ....... having run a series three for many years as a workhorse and run around ....... don't do it
my 90 3.5 V8 EFi, Hi Comp, 10.5:1, 200 BHP, Vitesse lump .. on gas ... pretty well filled the engine bay ...... went very well
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Bucket on wheels
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V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
day started off relatively dry and Pam's been itching to get back to sorting out our lower ditch/hedge line, the ditch is an easier proposition than the hedge .... so guess who got that one - again. Not been touched in maybe 7 years, so was in need of some major attention ....
sure as ..... had barely got at it and it started to drizzle ... then rain ... etc. ... once yer's wet, well ... yer's wet so carry one ... half two and I'd had enough of 'getting wet', once it starts running down your back
did make some more progress though
that pile of brambles is gonna take some sorting .... and i can't reach the damned thing with the Cranab
sure as ..... had barely got at it and it started to drizzle ... then rain ... etc. ... once yer's wet, well ... yer's wet so carry one ... half two and I'd had enough of 'getting wet', once it starts running down your back
did make some more progress though
that pile of brambles is gonna take some sorting
.... and i can't reach the damned thing with the Cranab
Routy56
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Sorry to say this - get rid of the Disco3
My last one I got rid of back in 2016 when it was fast becoming a money pit
As a driver's car absolutely loved it. With the General Grabbers it was great for towing the digger and stuff on the 3.5T Ifor
Was (and still am) a member of the Disco3 forum giving and receiving loads of advice.
Loads of stuff about engine failures really did concern me.
Mine was the 07 model which was a prime candidate for cam belt tensioner snapping off the oil pump.
Did all the upgrades and survived that one
Loads of photos if you wanna see them.....
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