Druidic Dabblings and General Twaddle !!

[V8Druid]

Is there any power feed to the table? Morse taper is not all that common for a mill with drawbar, you sure he’s not using an adaptor for the tooling?

TBH Mike the guy has no idea .... looks like a scrappy/recycler's yard ..
Clarkson autolock collet chuck, but no drive keys so not ISO30 ... only leaves MT ..... which was a lot more common decades ago .... which is what this looks to be ....
guess 50s/early 60s looking at it, 'praps older ....... it's bloody solid and could even be 4MT looking at the pic .... never seen a 4 though, usually 2 or 3

can't see anything that resembles power feeds, but has knockout stops on the table, suggesting power ??

no idea WTF the extra V trays are for on the table???

looks to have tilt, swivel and rotate and that is some 'ram' the head is mounted on ... doubt it'd ever be much more than a rougher, but for half the money I'd make an effort to eyeball it ... not at a grand though

 

[V8Druid]

One for you mate
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luv it

 

[V8Druid]

@Quattromike .... who in their right mind puts this amount of effort into a 70 yr old miller ?????

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Van-Norman-No-12-vertical-and-horizontal-milling-machine/293087388830?_trkparms=aid=1110001&algo=SPLICE.SIM&ao=1&asc=20131231084308&meid=a1b1bec0fa7d478bb610657d369ee270&pid=100010&rk=3&rkt=12&sd=113747642008&itm=293087388830&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/mv4AAOSwAeNc0GUY/s-l1600.jpg

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/4EEAAOSwQxxc0GUW/s-l1600.jpg

and then fits a DRO on it

 

[Charlie]

Wow. And why after all that effort sell it! It’s like new!

 

[Rob65]

Druid,

I’m in Manchester first thing on Tuesday and then later that day will traveling to Milford Haven so could go via Stafford and suss that old mill out if you are interested in it.

I’m a time served tool maker ( although I don’t work in that now) so should be able to give you an informed opinion of its condition.

Rob

 

[V8Druid]

Druid,

I’m in Manchester first thing on Tuesday and then later that day will traveling to Milford Haven so could go via Stafford and suss that old mill out if you are interested in it.

I’m a time served tool maker ( although I don’t work in that now) so should be able to give you an informed opinion of its condition.

Rob

a very kind offer @Rob65
.. TBH IMHDO it's double what it's realistically worth .... and with a morse quill'd be hard work finding decent tool holders for it
..... if it were half that I'd be saying yes please, as nothing ventured nothing gained, but I'd rather invest £2+k in a LOT newer bit of kit with an ISO 40 in it and a DRO ... job doneski
you ever seen one like that before Rob???
Just scanning my watch list to see if THERE IS anything in that area

these two are in Burton at the same place .... but end tomorrow

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Elga-Vertical-Turret-Milling-Machine/293087105630
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pinnacle-Vertical-Turret-Milling-Machine/293087078285

both fit the bill ... the Elga'd be the preferred tool even though the pinnacle has variable drive, IMHDO the Elga's better built. Academic though unless they were re-listed.

this Ajax is also nice, fits the bill ... and is in Bristol https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AJAX-AJT...LIGN-FEED-ISO-40-SPINDLE-3-PHASE/254231208786 .... may well have a free (now) trip over the water for a look-see

 

[Quattromike]

@Quattromike .... who in their right mind puts this amount of effort into a 70 yr old miller ?????

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Van-Norman-No-12-vertical-and-horizontal-milling-machine/293087388830?_trkparms=aid=1110001&algo=SPLICE.SIM&ao=1&asc=20131231084308&meid=a1b1bec0fa7d478bb610657d369ee270&pid=100010&rk=3&rkt=12&sd=113747642008&itm=293087388830&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/mv4AAOSwAeNc0GUY/s-l1600.jpg

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/4EEAAOSwQxxc0GUW/s-l1600.jpg

and then fits a DRO on it

He’s certainly done it up well. I imagine it’s a hobby for home to put this machine to the condition it’s in. But yes not all that well known of a make so don’t see anyone jumping about to but it. Would do a good turn for someone.

 

[V8Druid]

He’s certainly done it up well. I imagine it’s a hobby for home to put this machine to the condition it’s in. But yes not all that well known of a make so don’t see anyone jumping about to but it. Would do a good turn for someone.

my guess'd be he's had it for now't and having started tidying it, got carried away ..... WTF he's now selling it after all the effort is anyone's guess .... 'praps he wants to re-invest in summat better ... he's dreaming with the asking though IMHDO but could be proved wrong

 

[V8Druid]

this was nice and someone had a bargain with a starting bid of 400 quid ..... with only the maiden bid apparently taking it ... if you could live with an ISO 30 spindle ...... very tidy lil' Beavermill VBRP Mk II, by Baldings

 

[V8Druid]

as for yon Bridgeport .... of the opinion I was run up about 500+, quid from where I jumped in at 700 quid .... whoever was doing the running for him, ended up with it, when I left him to it at £1270 ..... I'll either get a phone call saying the bidder has dropped out or he'll relist it .... watched and bid on too many ebay auctions not to be able to spot when I'm being played/run up .. and have to admit to having done it a few times myself for friends .... the art is knowing when to stop

 

[V8Druid]

@Cyberprog ....... any good for you to play about with ??

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pneumatic-Rams/323781087502

be a decent power out of these lil' muthas

same seller as the odd ball turret mill in Stafford

 

[Cyberprog]

A bit beefy for what I have in mind I'm afraid!

 

[dhas]

And the volume of air you'd need to move them one hell of a compressor

 

[V8Druid]

And the volume of air you'd need to move them one hell of a compressor

Would depend entirely on what you were doing with them really

 

[dhas]

Would depend entirely on what you were doing with them really

That is quite true too

 

[V8Druid]

so .... back to the 'gardening'
having gotten the soil as far as I could with 4 bucketfuls = 60 barrow loads, I needed some edge retention .... enter one yankee crossing sleeper 10 ft x 12" x 7" ... and bloody heavy .... had to crank up the 'Drema to extricate it from a pile of stuff.

having gotten it onto a sack truck and down the patch ...... I was knackered, so recruited the wheel barrow for the final 60% of the journey

was fine 'til i hit these .......

and it made a break for freedom .... only just kept up with it !!!!! Pam thought it was bloody hilarious

anyway .... wrestled it into place, sussed it for size and then bedded it onto a good stiff mortar mix .....

in anticipation of bucket no 5's contents .....

yon drainage channel is progressing quietly ....

.... takes time to dig it on the angle, without destroying the edges, get it into the 7 footer, drop the VA-r off ... move said 7 footer down to be emptied ....
barrow it all to spot and then start all over again, once I've gotten the VA-r back on !!! 7 th time today, on and off ...

no 6 sat waiting it's turn on the patch this afternoon ...

Pam's keep fit/circuits night so she disappeared at 4.30 and i spent an hour re-shuffling a few pallets
... again and a couple of buckets ...
that Hill's jaw gripped and picked this up no sweat ..

then it was time for yet more mowing ....
did the side of the drive last night - lawn again tonight and swept last nights mowings from the Dane, off the side of the drive with the Countax's sweeper / collector

finished just as Pam returned in time for a late tea.

lawn extension looking OK ... now to suss the last bit of it

 

[V8Druid]

Forgot to say yesterday ..... for the first time ever, I had to drop a union off on the VA-r to make a connection to the dipper ... (mental note to self )---- don't leave it parked directly in the midday sun .... no way were the FF QCs gonna budge .... one to remember, even though I always drop the pressure off the lines before disconnecting it, but it was so warm yesterday the VA-r was very hot to the touch, after sitting in the sun for a couple of hours

Bucketful no six went down today .... don't often see one of these out yer kitchen window

less walking, with the barrows, from this point for a.n.other location needing some dirt ..... got the 'lawn extension' topped off with some 'riddled' stuff ....

took me bloody ages, but worth the effort ... all I have to do now is have stern words with the cats .. stop 'em digging it back up
these guys suddenly appeared from behind the treeline in quick succession ..... only just managed to get me phone out to catch the last one as he sped away ...

chasing his mates who'd been over a few seconds earlier

not quite 'nap of the earth', but they weren't far off it and when they passed Pam, up at her cuz's place a few seconds later, up the valley they were heading up, she was above them, looking down on 'em

had two of these Ospreys come over on the same route yesterday, playing 'silly buggers' with the deck - they were bloody low ... too slow with the phone yesterday for a pic

didn't know they folded up like that
have had Chinooks over the house before now, so low you'd think they were gonna land on the lawn ..... seem to use our roof ridge as a reference for NOE flying .. them and the Herc.s

Unusual to see the patch devoid of a big yeller fing

Last twenty feet of me drainage channel tomorrow, hopefully -- need to avoid hitting me 70mm cable ducting and two water pipes already in there part way up the patch ... (can just see the duct coil, bottom right, above) ... or I will be PO-ed .... better get on to me stone man for an eight wheeler's worth and get it filled back up

 

[tinydigger]

Had to visit Mildenhall yesterday for work and timed it just right as 2 of them come in to land beside the internal road as I drove by talk about noise is a real roar and the wash off them didn't half blow some dust up. back in the former job have been nose to nose with a few Hercs, Jags, Chinooks and even the odd Black Hawk but the one that put fear in me was the Apache watching that gun track to you as the pilot looks in your direction does something to your soul full armed up they are a awesome sight and makes you glad they are not chasing you down

 

[V8Druid]

Had to visit Mildenhall yesterday for work and timed it just right as 2 of them come in to land beside the internal road as I drove by talk about noise is a real roar and the wash off them didn't half blow some dust up. back in the former job have been nose to nose with a few Hercs, Jags, Chinooks and even the odd Black Hawk but the one that put fear in me was the Apache watching that gun track to you as the pilot looks in your direction does something to your soul full armed up they are a awesome sight and makes you glad they are not chasing you down

yeh the Apache is something else .... we had a pair over last month .... and used to get them daily a few years back .. they'd just appear - pop up from no where ... was an amazing vid doing the rounds back when the Gulf was on ... three of 'em hovering just below a ridge eyeballing a tank column with their 'periscopes' .... pop up, take out six and drop back out of sight in seconds ... WTF do you shoot back at when they're only 'on show' for 2-3 seconds ..... like shooting fish in a barrel
and yeh those Ospreys make a hell of a noise ..... unmistakable

 

[Bucket on wheels]

As long as it dosent spott you driving too fast