V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
I'd say that's pretty spot on Gaz. ........ the big Q is ..... are they trying to develop a 'proper' vaccine - one that actually immunises ppl ...... I've certainly heard no mention ... too busy coining it from what they've already produced and looks to be a total cash cow for the foreseeable future on a 6 monthly cycle ........ kerf***ingching
Bob
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another worth while read
www.conservativewoman.co.uk
and another
Just how rare are ‘rare’ vaccine injuries? | The Conservative Woman
www.conservativewoman.co.uk
GazCro
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Well you'd expect govt labs would be trying to make a vaccine, but as to how many there are and what funding they've got who knows? Having said that they've never managed to make a vaccine for the common cold which is a coronavirusI'd say that's pretty spot on Gaz. ........ the big Q is ..... are they trying to develop a 'proper' vaccine - one that actually immunises ppl ...... I've certainly heard no mention ... too busy coining it from what they've already produced and looks to be a total cash cow for the foreseeable future on a 6 monthly cycle ........ kerf***ingching
Shovelhands
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Austria have now announced plans to make the jab compulsory, non compliance will result in a fine and imprisonment. The world has truly gone feckin mad….
Shovelhands
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V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
could not agree more with you James .... but then it was Hitler's country of birth
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
thank you putting that up James ..... watched another of his vid.s a little while ago ... he is a fantastic speaker ....... frightening message
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
just looked at the figures and out of a population of 9,055,000 in Austria only 5,786,300 have taken up 'the jab' (63.9%) ... so circa 3,270,000 are unvaccinated ... through their choice / whatever ...
HTF do they think they're going to imprison over 36.1% of the population
HTF do they think they're going to imprison over 36.1% of the population
GazCro
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History says its possiblejust looked at the figures and out of a population of 9,055,000 in Austria only 5,786,300 have taken up 'the jab' (63.9%) ... so circa 3,270,000 are unvaccinated ... through their choice / whatever ...
HTF do they think they're going to imprison over 36.1% of the population
M
Maxus
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We've had it easy for too long and now the average person can't comprehend or has forgotten entirely the terrible atrocities government's throughout history have committed. It's not all that long ago that in Europe millions of people were being exterminated in concentration camps and gulags, or being intentionally starved to death en masse. It's naive to think it couldn't happen again, the same goes for conflicts like the first and second world wars. Most worryingly, it seems we've also collectively forgotten the importance of civil liberties and how instrumental they have been in limiting the power of governments, the power that allows them commit such atrocities. On the contrary there are now people crying out to have our civil liberties taken away in exchange for the promise of 'safety'. Sadly i can imagine certain 'factions' in the upper echelons of society committing genocide, for our own safety of course, and all for a good cause. I can also clealy see how genocide could happen in the not too distant future as we become trapped in a high tech prison, where even a whiff of dissent is immediately crushed. I don't know what's in these jabs, but there's no chance whatsoever I'm taking one. I have zero trust in the powers that be, frankly I'm amazed anyone does!
Lancs Lad
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Meanwhile...Putin lines up to take Ukraine et al and awaken the sleeping Bear...but it's fine as we now fighting to save the planet instead or protesting about something . The world's an odd place...
Gecko
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I understand what you mean, but you are taking a very narrow view of the definition of 'Vaccine'.
I'm booked in next week to receive two "vaccines".
First is japanese encephalitis. Second is typhoid.
I had both of these six years ago, but it is considered their effect will have faded to the point that they no longer provide adequate protection.
Similarly, I've had the course of rabies vaccinations. The rabies shots do not give you a license to pat every flea bitten mutt across the 3rd world, what it buys you is time.
Untreated, the mortality of rabies is 100%.
Having the vaccine gives you 7-days to find a hospital to get treatment (or you will die).
Flu vaccines don't guarantee you won't catch the flu, but reduce the severity if you do.
Many people chose to get the flu vaccine every year without considering what is in it. Typically the flu vaccine contains the component to treat the dominant strain from the previous year(s) plus a component to treat what is guessed to be the next evolved strain. This is always guessed ahead of time to allow for manufacturing delays. Usually it is beneficial, but not always.
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V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
medical definition of a ......
" vaccine
[ˈvaksiːn, ˈvaksɪn]
NOUN
" vaccine
[ˈvaksiːn, ˈvaksɪn]
NOUN
- a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease. "
the rabies shots as you say aren't a vaccine ... they're a serum to 'dull down' the effects until you can obtain treatment
Gecko
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yes, but ...
Immunity
medical: the power to keep yourself from being affected by a disease
Definition of IMMUNITY
the quality or state of being immune: such as; a condition of being able to resist a particular disease especially through preventing development of a pathogenic microorganism or by counteracting the effects of its products… See the full definition
Affected is not synonymous with infected.
eg. you can be infected, but not affected.
I don't think there are any credable claims anyone has caught the virus from any of the vaccines (sure, it's possible it's been transmitted in a vaccination clinic, but not from any of the vaccines themselves).
The Australian Immunization Handbook refer to two alternative Rabies prophylaxis:
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Gecko
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....
Merieux Inactivated Rabies Vaccine
and
Rabipur Inactivated Rabies virus Vaccine
Rightly or wrongly, these two treatments are referred to as vaccines by the medical profession generally, the WHO (specifically) and the manufacturers.
One of the advantages of English (language) compared with other is the variety of similar, but different words that allow you to more precisely convey a meaning, so it is a pity when words are misused and their meanings fades.
I understand the point you are making, but I think it's a lost cause.
Merieux Inactivated Rabies Vaccine
and
Rabipur Inactivated Rabies virus Vaccine
Rightly or wrongly, these two treatments are referred to as vaccines by the medical profession generally, the WHO (specifically) and the manufacturers.
One of the advantages of English (language) compared with other is the variety of similar, but different words that allow you to more precisely convey a meaning, so it is a pity when words are misused and their meanings fades.
I understand the point you are making, but I think it's a lost cause.
Grahams
Don't complain - suggest what's better
It seems to stem from arrogant experts who think the public are to stupid to understand to understand nuances but is leading to a lack of trust from the section of the public who worry bad things are being hidden from them by weasel words.
Gecko
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To be fair:
- politicians have always used weasel words to obfuscate either what they are doing or why.
- experts are often arrogant
- 'the public' can be amazingly stupid
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Danny
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Well, I've managed to dodge it for the last 20 months, PCR yesterday positive this morning
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