Anyone using electric diggers?

[T whiting]

what about all the terraced houses that only have a foot path in front of the house with cables running across them to charge there cars, not every body has a drive to park on I'm fortunate only me and the bride so only car and a van on a private drive/yard but my brother has,,,,,,,,,,,his car, wife's car, daughter's car, sons car and sons work van and can only get one on the drive at a time he may fine it a bit tricky

Public charging points on lamp posts? They might need bigger cables though

 

[craig]

We`re quite a rural area here, 3 of us supplied by a single 25kVA transformer, A few heavy draw items that could potentially be switched on in each house at the same time, 2.2kw kettle, 6-9kw shower, 7kw cooker, never mind the dozens of smaller draws, adding a 7.2kw car charger into the mix has potential to put the lights out!

 

[Alan caddy]

I will need some length of cable to recharge digger on the mast site I'm on not usually and power supply for a few miles, our submarine cables is broken the now and generators running 24/7 had to take extra generators in as back and just able to cope so network up won't be able to cope anyway, also most villages etc are single phase they would have to run the third conductor for upto 10 miles to update the network

 

[fred]

what about all the terraced houses that only have a foot path in front of the house with cables running across them to charge there cars, not every body has a drive to park on I'm fortunate only me and the bride so only car and a van on a private drive/yard but my brother has,,,,,,,,,,,his car, wife's car, daughter's car, sons car and sons work van and can only get one on the drive at a time he may fine it a bit tricky

UK's first pop-up EV chargers installed that rise out of the pavement

When demand for electric vehicles inevitably grows, so will the need for on-street chargers, meaning a lot more road furniture than we're currently accustom to. Urban Electric has a solution.

www.thisismoney.co.uk

 

[Antony Holmes]

you are going to excuse my ignorance. could you not use screws instead of rams similar to the ones found on old (very old) tipping trailers or jacks or something you could bin all the oil then

 

[Mogman]

you are going to excuse my ignorance. could you not use screws instead of rams similar to the ones found on old (very old) tipping trailers or jacks or something you could bin all the oil then

Could do if they're encased in oil to save wear and have electric motors for drive and slew

 

[Monkeybusiness]

Smart meters will allow the power to flow both ways, so any vehicles on charge/smart-walls in houses etc essentially become part of a nationwide battery for the entire grid. It would also smooth out the peaks and troughs of green energy generation - when it’s windy at night with no demand and all the turbines are making power there will be a massive battery to store the excess.
It’s going to need a shitload of new cables though!

 

[Quattromike]

Could do if they're encased in oil to save wear and have electric motors for drive and slew

Yep this is what linear actuators are

 

[Left hooker]

Yep this is what linear actuators are ☺

If they are anything like the screw thread 2 post lift ramps I used to use at a garage I worked at they were bloody slow hydraulic was way faster

 

[GazCro]

Yep this is what linear actuators are

Do they require power

If they are anything like the screw thread 2 post lift ramps I used to use at a garage I worked at they were bloody slow hydraulic was way faster

They'll be to power both ways as well which will be inefficient and worked constant how would heat build up affect them.

 

[Shovelhands]

I can’t see a screw thread type actuator ever being viable, strong as hell though, and you'd get no ram creep! Could it ever be quick enough though?... But possibly a rack and pinion might be more useable? LeTourneau was famously anti hydraulic, I believe, and used rack and pinions a lot, on a giant scale usually!
It could work, but I can’t see it ever matching the performance of modern hydraulic systems. Powering the hydraulic pump with another power source is the only way forward with current technology in my eyes. On large excavators, if going electric, the slew could be fully electric and probably be used to generate power in the form of a slew brake and I’m sure some clever fellows could utilise some return hydraulic flow from certain services at specific times to also put a little back into the batteries. But I’m sure they’ve thought of all this.

Having said all that, this electric revolution may have a small place, but has no chance of being the complete picture in the coming decades.
It’s all in the name of the environment , but there are many negatives to the environment by going totally electric, batteries themselves are not exactly environmentally friendly. We will just be creating another huge industrial waste problem.

The 2030 target has got to be political posturing, if they are determined to stick to it then we are fooked! But I can see them going back on that.....

 

[Grahams]

It could work, but I can’t see it ever matching the performance of modern hydraulic systems.

You say that as if it is important. To the green anti capitalist lobby nothing is important except todays green issue.

 

[Quattromike]

I think it will lean toward bio fuels rather than full electric. We’ll be running ethanol or hydrogen before electric on big power applications . Or micro nuclear power source

 

[Smiffy]

I can’t see a screw thread type actuator ever being viable, strong as hell though, and you'd get no ram creep! Could it ever be quick enough though?... But possibly a rack and pinion might be more useable? LeTourneau was famously anti hydraulic, I believe, and used rack and pinions a lot, on a giant scale usually!
It could work, but I can’t see it ever matching the performance of modern hydraulic systems. Powering the hydraulic pump with another power source is the only way forward with current technology in my eyes. On large excavators, if going electric, the slew could be fully electric and probably be used to generate power in the form of a slew brake and I’m sure some clever fellows could utilise some return hydraulic flow from certain services at specific times to also put a little back into the batteries. But I’m sure they’ve thought of all this.

Having said all that, this electric revolution may have a small place, but has no chance of being the complete picture in the coming decades.
It’s all in the name of the environment , but there are many negatives to the environment by going totally electric, batteries themselves are not exactly environmentally friendly. We will just be creating another huge industrial waste problem.

The 2030 target has got to be political posturing, if they are determined to stick to it then we are fooked! But I can see them going back on that.....

It's banning petrol and diesel cars though
This doesn't necessarily mean electric is the replacement
Whilst there are huge public campaigns over everything electric there is also a huge amount of work going on behind the scenes into hydrogen as an alternative fuel source
And reading about it it appears to be a far more realistic route and actually a more environmentally friendly option than full electric

Have a read of the riversimple website and there is alot of information about it all, they are trying to not only develop a green propulsion system but an entire green car with focus on longetivity and refurbishment rather than the disposable systems we currently have

Their whole ethos is far better than the likes of Tesla

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Our purpose is “To pursue, systematically, the elimination of the environmental impact of personal transport” by designing a Hydrogen Eco Car & Eco Company

www.riversimple.com

 

[GazCro]

It's banning petrol and diesel cars though
This doesn't necessarily mean electric is the replacement
Whilst there are huge public campaigns over everything electric there is also a huge amount of work going on behind the scenes into hydrogen as an alternative fuel source
And reading about it it appears to be a far more realistic route and actually a more environmentally friendly option than full electric

Have a read of the riversimple website and there is alot of information about it all, they are trying to not only develop a green propulsion system but an entire green car with focus on longetivity and refurbishment rather than the disposable systems we currently have

Their whole ethos is far better than the likes of Tesla

HOME

Our purpose is “To pursue, systematically, the elimination of the environmental impact of personal transport” by designing a Hydrogen Eco Car & Eco Company

www.riversimple.com

I can't help but think that these smaller companies with their various ideas are gonna get steamrollered at some point. You can't honestly think that the major automotive manufacturers aren't already a long way forward with pursuing different fuel options. The thing is they won't want to sell you the be all and end all straight out the box. They'll want to drip feed it to us to maximise the amount of money they can take from us.

 

[Lancs Lad]

Can't help but feel the rural areas are being abandoned in this whole eco tosh, chances of us 4 houses at the end of the line being able to charge 2-3 cars each is zilch...and then power cuts? Basically not happening here, I can see my self been forced into a hybrid defender for tax reasons but full electric ..never. saw a poor DPD driver limping along in a daft little electric nissan van on the M6 south of Lancaster this morning...wondered how much charge he had left before even starts his first drop.

 

[craig]

Can't help but feel the rural areas are being abandoned in this whole eco tosh, chances of us 4 houses at the end of the line being able to charge 2-3 cars each is zilch...and then power cuts? Basically not happening here, I can see my self been forced into a hybrid defender for tax reasons but full electric ..never. saw a poor DPD driver limping along in a daft little electric nissan van on the M6 south of Lancaster this morning...wondered how much charge he had left before even starts his first drop.

That's along the same lines as I was saying, we`re still on the same overhead infrastructure that was put in as a new installation, in the 1950`s, when houses only needed a couple of 40w bulbs

 

[Smiffy]

I can't help but think that these smaller companies with their various ideas are gonna get steamrollered at some point. You can't honestly think that the major automotive manufacturers aren't already a long way forward with pursuing different fuel options. The thing is they won't want to sell you the be all and end all straight out the box. They'll want to drip feed it to us to maximise the amount of money they can take from us.

More than likely but it takes these firms to push the ideas to a point the big companies can no longer ignore

And I know that Toyota have allsorts of programs for alternative fuel sources especially hydrogen going they just don't make a fuss of them like seems to happen to all electric stuff

 

[V8Druid]

riversimple.com

that's the mob that our local council spent hundreds of thousands on, putting in a small H bomb installation, smack in the middle of Abergavenny, so's they can refuel their motor.
Mentioned it some time ago ... got quietly 'pushed through' planning with virtually no 'fanfare' 'til it'd been completed ... even the planning notices were sneakily hidden on the backs of signs in the location
there'd have been all hell, if I'd wanted to install it in my yard 50 yards away .. had enough grief with my LPG storage tanks .
there will only be ONE accident at this site ... and it and half the town'll be gone .... Hydrogen storage in the centre of a town, beside a very busy (with commercials/HGVs) roadway is just "painting the devil on the wall " and waiting for the inevitable to occur .... think I'm far enough away from it at 5+ miles, but'll sure as hell hear it

There have been many examples over the years of various people claiming water powered engines, all to mysteriously disappear (some literally) from the scene, never to be heard of again.
IMHDO the oil co.s will have bought their silence (and the ones they couldn't just vanished-couple of well known examples) in readiness to 'wheel it out' as their own tech. when they're are no longer able to peddle their wares any more ..... these companies are not going to " go quietly into the night " as defunct entities / dinosaurs and are currently paying the electric route lip service as a political tool awaiting it's demise before rolling out their 'fabulous' new technologies

 

[craig]

these companies are not going to " go quietly into the night " as defunct entities / dinosaurs and are currently paying the electric route lip service as a political tool awaiting it's demise before rolling out their 'fabulous' new technologies

I think I heard on the news BP had sold their petrochemical side to Ineos, jump before their pushed