Trailer options

[Brendan]

Most decent (modern) micros are 1.2t dry....

Think that's mostly operating weight so including driver at 75kg ish plus fuel and bucket.

E10,dx10,u10 and tb210r are all around 1.1t transport weight and anything without servos is sub 1t

 

[GazCro]

Think that's mostly operating weight so including driver at 75kg ish plus fuel and bucket.

E10,dx10,u10 and tb210r are all around 1.1t transport weight and anything without servos is sub 1t

Digger weights won't include driver.

 

[doobin]

Think that's mostly operating weight so including driver at 75kg ish plus fuel and bucket.

E10,dx10,u10 and tb210r are all around 1.1t transport weight and anything without servos is sub 1t

Bobcat E10 is 1180kg plated weight. Add fuel, add buckets, you're sailing very close to the wind in a trailer with known iffy tyres. I'd much rather a double axle, and they are easier to find secondhand also. Jack up onto the back wheels and you can push them around like a single, there's not much difference between a 6x4 single axle and an 8x4 twin other than one has a lot more capacity if needed and is less twitchy to shunt to boot. If you've got a micro there will come a time when you decide to get a power barrow of some description too, so you might as well have room from the off.

 

[Swancott2007]

I use an ifor tt2515 for the e10 with 8ft ramps no problem,I just haven't worked out how to get the muck truck on tidy as well yet! but with the tipper I've already got a dumper with me on some sites.

 

[JD450A]

I find it odd you lot don't like those little tyres.... Mine have been fine for years and regularly been well loaded.

 

[Russell]

Di

Did you get rid of the tipper?

I have a Brian James tipper that the micro and dumpers sit on and a gh1054 for the 8026. Currently the micro and track dumpers are on the gh1054 as using the tipper as a dumping/stirage ground at the moment. It's nice not having to arse around with the ramps on the tipper as they are a huge faff, they have to be dragged out and then have to be flipped over as the stupid things not only sit upside down but also the wrong way round into the holders.

Tipper is handy though, had the GH and had to get some sand but wasn't as easy to get the stuff out.

On the fence whether to just use the GH for all the plant movements but current set up with the dumpers and micro doesn't leave a great deal of tongue weight.

@Mikey if your able to wait, might be worth buying new as used prices were not off of new money and thats before having to sort tires or brakes (full set of brakes/drums could run you best part of 1k for a twin axle)

My one didnt even have ramp storage, total pita. I got £2400 for it though

I use an ifor tt2515 for the e10 with 8ft ramps no problem,I just haven't worked out how to get the muck truck on tidy as well yet! but with the tipper I've already got a dumper with me on some sites.

Take a side off and drive it up a side up by the latter rack.

I'm hoping having a camera on the back will help a little....posh van...ha

you fitting one yourself? Ive been looking for a kit but have yet to pull the trigger as they all look a bit crappy.

 

[Monkeybusiness]

I find it odd you lot don't like those little tyres.... Mine have been fine for years and regularly been well loaded.

Not sure if it’s long motorway runs with weight on them that kills them - if the pressure is down a bit (unnoticed) possibly too? We’ve never had any luck with them on heavy trailers, but the trailers are regularly doing 100 mile plus days and get dragged over all surfaces at either end of the journeys.
After we changed to bigger wheel/tyre combos on the Ifor’s the problems pretty much disappeared. I’ve got a tri-axle Bateson with them on and that eats them too, but that does tend to be used at full capacity more often than not.
(I do have a little single axle sheep trailer with them and have never had an issue with that, but that’s never more than 8 or 900kg gross).

 

[Mikey]

you fitting one yourself? Ive been looking for a kit but have yet to pull the trigger as they all look a bit crappy.

It came with the van as a dealer spec'd option. It's really clear and sees around corners almost so when backing out onto a road you can see what's coming. Also has a button that zooms right onto the ball hitch so you'd never miss.

 

[craig]

The trick with little trailers is to set yourself in position so you reverse round aa curve with the trailer in sight to get to your destination. Waste of Time trying to reverse in a straight line. But position yourself at an angle to begin with and you can almost look like a professional

"the success or failure of a manoeuvre, is determined before reverse is selected"

 

[Bri963]

The GH64 is a 6x4. Good little trailers. But as small as you want to go.

Having owned mine for seven years I can speak with a bit of authority on this one, until our resident trailer instructor pops up and corrects all of us regarding nose weights, etc.

It’s a bit more than 6 x 4 internally, payload 1240 kg. Leaf springs, it always looks like the tyres are going to hit the mudguards but they haven’t yet.

Piece of wee wee to reverse with a Jimny, as the wheelbase is less than rear axle to trailer axle. Not so easy with a transit or a big pick up, but not impossible. If you’ve done a bit with trailers already, that is. Rides really well, and certainly not a waste of time.

Downside, paint on wheels is rubbish, rust causes regular leaks round the valve, galvanising is not brilliant, within two years it was lifting in areas where it hadn’t been impacted. Too short for anything except a micro, tracked barrow, or the very smallest compact tractors. If they’d made it with a 1500 kg payload, and eight feet long, it would carry a Bobcat S70, which at the moment is just out of scope.

It would certainly ride better than their smallest twin axled trailers, imo. Personally I dislike the ride of any twin axled Ifor with a passion, and have for over forty years since I started towing their sheep trailers, which traumatised any sheep unfortunate to be in the back. Currently we use a GH84 and a sixteen foot flat bed, deafening things to tow any distance.

 

[V8Druid]

Not sure if it’s long motorway runs with weight on them that kills them - if the pressure is down a bit (unnoticed) possibly too? We’ve never had any luck with them on heavy trailers, but the trailers are regularly doing 100 mile plus days and get dragged over all surfaces at either end of the journeys.
After we changed to bigger wheel/tyre combos on the Ifor’s the problems pretty much disappeared. I’ve got a tri-axle Bateson with them on and that eats them too, but that does tend to be used at full capacity more often than not.
(I do have a little single axle sheep trailer with them and have never had an issue with that, but that’s never more than 8 or 900kg gross).

the issue with 10" tyres is the speed at which they rotate .... they get bloody hot and on long runs just can't stick it, loaded heavy .... dare say if you ran at no more than 50mph you'd find a serious improvement in longevity MB

 

[Monkeybusiness]

the issue with 10" tyres is the speed at which they rotate .... they get bloody hot and on long runs just can't stick it, loaded heavy .... dare say if you ran at no more than 50mph you'd find a serious improvement in longevity MB

Can’t see that happening - I’d rather throw tyres at the job and get home sooner!

 

[Old Operator]

I had in my notes another option, a Bateson 2000. Twin axle - empty weight 364 Kg, carries 1622 Kg, so max total 2000 Kg (the most weight a non 4wd can legally pull) This is the lightest trailer hence the bigger load. It has been re named the 20MD recently. Interesting that a Jimny is pulling a GH64 & mini.
I considered this set up as the Jimny will fit my garage. Also a Skoda Yeti (the 4wd version can pull 2t / 2.1t dependant on the year). Sadly just now all this impossible. A gardening contractor here uses a Jimny & wire mesh sided GP trailer to carry a big mower as well as general use. He says the Jimny being petrol is ideal for the short local journeys he does. I am still working on the Manor - is its own trailer
I seem to remember that there was a 500Kg tare Ifor trailer that will carry 2200 Kg - it is a bit wider at 4ft 3in if that is an issue

 

[Bri963]

I had in my notes another option, a Bateson 2000. Twin axle - empty weight 364 Kg, carries 1622 Kg, so max total 2000 Kg (the most weight a non 4wd can legally pull) This is the lightest trailer hence the bigger load. It has been re named the 20MD recently. Interesting that a Jimny is pulling a GH64 & mini.
I considered this set up as the Jimny will fit my garage. Also a Skoda Yeti (the 4wd version can pull 2t / 2.1t dependant on the year). Sadly just now all this impossible. A gardening contractor here uses a Jimny & wire mesh sided GP trailer to carry a big mower as well as general use. He says the Jimny being petrol is ideal for the short local journeys he does. I am still working on the Manor - is its own trailer
I seem to remember that there was a 500Kg tare Ifor trailer that will carry 2200 Kg - it is a bit wider at 4ft 3in if that is an issue

I’ve got a 2912 4wd Yeti, excellent towing vehicle, but it’s rated for 1800 kg, not 2000. Don’t know about the newer ones. I use the Jimny mostly as it takes less cleaning.

 

[Old Operator]

From what I saw it very much depended on the year / model of the Yeti (& if petrol or diesel). Only the very last ones were 2100 Kg tow. How is the Jimny as a road car for day to day non tow uses? I mean how is it on a longer drive say at motorway speeds & come to that how is the MPG under these conditions.
I rarely go on the motorway these days but just might for hols etc. If I bought a vehicle it would be my only one, as we are situated now. I did think in future of say a Cabstar & a little runabout like a Fiat, but that is not on the cards where we now live.
Early Jimny's were a manual lever to engage lo range? Later elec system said to have problems? Latest Jimny 2019 on has gone back to the original system I think.
By chance I came across this

Guy compares a Rhino / Carter with a Kubota U10 - 3
He owned the Rhino for 3 years, so a fair trial

 

[Russell]

Merc e class can pull 2.2 ton I think

 

[Smiffy]

I had in my notes another option, a Bateson 2000. Twin axle - empty weight 364 Kg, carries 1622 Kg, so max total 2000 Kg (the most weight a non 4wd can legally pull) This is the lightest trailer hence the bigger load. It has been re named the 20MD recently. Interesting that a Jimny is pulling a GH64 & mini.
I considered this set up as the Jimny will fit my garage. Also a Skoda Yeti (the 4wd version can pull 2t / 2.1t dependant on the year). Sadly just now all this impossible. A gardening contractor here uses a Jimny & wire mesh sided GP trailer to carry a big mower as well as general use. He says the Jimny being petrol is ideal for the short local journeys he does. I am still working on the Manor - is its own trailer
I seem to remember that there was a 500Kg tare Ifor trailer that will carry 2200 Kg - it is a bit wider at 4ft 3in if that is an issue

Do you mean the 2wd yetis can't tow more than 2t.
There arnt any laws on towing with 2wd. Plenty of 2wd that will tow more. Mostly vans but a few others will. Citreon dispatch would tow 2.5t is quite small and could be bought with a second row of seats not only making it practical but also making it a dual purpose vehicle and o license exempt

 

[Gecko]

Just downloaded the current Jimny brochure and it claims: Max towing weight (braked) kg 1,300

https://prod-suzuki.azureedge.net/media/18380/suzuki-jimny-ebrochure-2021_lr.pdf

 

[Bri963]

From what I saw it very much depended on the year / model of the Yeti (& if petrol or diesel). Only the very last ones were 2100 Kg tow. How is the Jimny as a road car for day to day non tow uses? I mean how is it on a longer drive say at motorway speeds & come to that how is the MPG under these conditions.
I rarely go on the motorway these days but just might for hols etc. If I bought a vehicle it would be my only one, as we are situated now. I did think in future of say a Cabstar & a little runabout like a Fiat, but that is not on the cards where we now live.
Early Jimny's were a manual lever to engage lo range? Later elec system said to have problems? Latest Jimny 2019 on has gone back to the original system I think.
By chance I came across this

Guy compares a Rhino / Carter with a Kubota U10 - 3
He owned the Rhino for 3 years, so a fair trial

Mine is the last of the old shape. No issues with electric 4wd engagement, but I did like the lever engagement on my old one. As Gecko says, 1300 kg tow capacity.

Day to day it’s a bit of an old fashioned ride, bit of a bouncy ride but better than any Defender. If you’re long in the leg, try before you buy as there Isn’t the seat adjustment of most new vehicles. I’m 5’10” and sit in it comfortably enough, my lad is 6’4” and hates it.

Motorways, well you won’t be in the outside lane much, but they’ll hold 70 easily enough. I get close to 40 mpg on a run, which isn’t brilliant for a small car, but not many that size will pull 1300 kg legally. In fact I ca think of another that will.

Another plus is that having owned two over ten years, I’ve bought one battery, one spring, four tyres, one clutch and one back box. Nothing else, not even a sidelight bulb.

 

[Smiffy]

Mine is the last of the old shape. No issues with electric 4wd engagement, but I did like the lever engagement on my old one. As Gecko says, 1300 kg tow capacity.

Day to day it’s a bit of an old fashioned ride, bit of a bouncy ride but better than any Defender. If you’re long in the leg, try before you buy as there Isn’t the seat adjustment of most new vehicles. I’m 5’10” and sit in it comfortably enough, my lad is 6’4” and hates it.

Motorways, well you won’t be in the outside lane much, but they’ll hold 70 easily enough. I get close to 40 mpg on a run, which isn’t brilliant for a small car, but not many that size will pull 1300 kg legally. In fact I ca think of another that will.

Another plus is that having owned two over ten years, I’ve bought one battery, one spring, four tyres, one clutch and one back box. Nothing else, not even a sidelight bulb.

I'm 6ft 5 and I found them one of the better vehicles that size to fit into. Certainly better than Daihatsu sportrak which I physically can't drive