Is the backhoe loader a thing of the past?

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Smiffy

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Two words- white diesel!!

Now that backhoes and ducks are on white does it open the possibilities of towing a trailer with them. Wasn't the red diesel one of if not the only obstacle for towing the trailer.

And hydrema do a direct competitor to the 1cx on the offchance someone here still wants one
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Now that backhoes and ducks are on white does it open the possibilities of towing a trailer with them. Wasn't the red diesel one of if not the only obstacle for towing the trailer.

And hydrema do a direct competitor to the 1cx on the offchance someone here still wants one
which is????
 
APhillips

APhillips

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A bit late to this conversation however I am still very much of the mindset that there will always be a place for a backhoe, there isn't another piece of plant that can travel on the road like it, especially now with the latest transmissions with torque lock or direct drive etc.

However in the past 12mths I have spent a lot of time on our 7MWR wheeled excavator and that machine still surprises me with what its capable of on site, fair enough its not got the road speed of a backhoe as the 7 is only 30kph top speed and the Hydrostatic certainly looses speed on hills but we still road ours everywhere and wouldn't want to be without a wheeled machine now.

Its unique in the rubber duck world in that you have the large loader bucket so you can actually carry attachments with you, I can fit 3 digging buckets and a grader in the loader bucket or a 3ft bucket and tree shear for example, we have also made a bracket for our Flail so that it hooks on the blade so we carry that everywhere too. That same bucket makes loading or moving/carrying material far more efficient.

I am aware that the Mecalac machines do come at a premium, but there isn't another machine that can touch them in terms of versatility or compactness etc

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V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
A bit late to this conversation however I am still very much of the mindset that there will always be a place for a backhoe, there isn't another piece of plant that can travel on the road like it, especially now with the latest transmissions with torque lock or direct drive etc.

However in the past 12mths I have spent a lot of time on our 7MWR wheeled excavator and that machine still surprises me with what its capable of on site, fair enough its not got the road speed of a backhoe as the 7 is only 30kph top speed and the Hydrostatic certainly looses speed on hills but we still road ours everywhere and wouldn't want to be without a wheeled machine now.

Its unique in the rubber duck world in that you have the large loader bucket so you can actually carry attachments with you, I can fit 3 digging buckets and a grader in the loader bucket or a 3ft bucket and tree shear for example, we have also made a bracket for our Flail so that it hooks on the blade so we carry that everywhere too. That same bucket makes loading or moving/carrying material far more efficient.

I am aware that the Mecalac machines do come at a premium, but there isn't another machine that can touch them in terms of versatility or compactness etc

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could put a blade carrier/8ft bucket on any VA boomed duck and do the same though Adam ;)
 
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DaveDCB

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Such a Nice looking machine, I have considered a hydradig or Takeuchi duck, only thing that puts me off them is the high cab height for getting in and out allday on Groundworks jobs.. the mecalac looks a lot lower 👌🏻
 
craig

craig

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Such a Nice looking machine, I have considered a hydradig or Takeuchi duck, only thing that puts me off them is the high cab height for getting in and out allday on Groundworks jobs.. the mecalac looks a lot lower 👌🏻
Even my duckling is a fair climb, and remembering where the steps are if your not straight.
 
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Smiffy

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Hooked my trousers on the top step of the 3cx and shinned the step below afew times! The newer style with spikes did some damage!!

I've got a scar up my shin from doing this on a dumper. Must be the only time I've ever climbed of a dumper the right way slipped and ended up with the step firmly wedged in my shin
 
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DaveDCB

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I've got a scar up my shin from doing this on a dumper. Must be the only time I've ever climbed of a dumper the right way slipped and ended up with the step firmly wedged in my shin
Worst one was jumping out the cab, coat sleeve caught in the door mid flight and pulled me back down into the steps, then slid down them all on my back.. styled it out on the floor in a heap half winded! That’s why you don’t jump out of cabs kids 🤦‍♂️
 
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Old Operator

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I sadly agree with doobin. Most strip footings I dug were 2ft wide max, so providing a mini is capable of pulling a 2ft wide bucket through clay it would satisfy a builder's needs. The 14ft dig depth was never used. The mini is maybe about 13 to 20 HP where the 3cx is 80. The mini cannot though pick & carry, so a little dumper comes in. No, white DERV is the last straw. I sort of remember skid steers that had a 'pick up' backhoe among other attachments.
 
APhillips

APhillips

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could put a blade carrier/8ft bucket on any VA boomed duck and do the same though Adam ;)
No reason not to however boom geometry, even with a VA boom on more standard ducks still wouldn't put it in a great roading position. There are times where I wish I had a blade carrier too, sometimes you just need all the attachments!


Such a Nice looking machine, I have considered a hydradig or Takeuchi duck, only thing that puts me off them is the high cab height for getting in and out allday on Groundworks jobs.. the mecalac looks a lot lower 👌🏻
I am sure that in the Mecalac blurb they mention around 20% lower, so its pretty significant.

Even my duckling is a fair climb, and remembering where the steps are if your not straight.
This was addressed too, the slew ring is perfectly central in the machine and the steps symmetrical so no matter which direction your pointing the steps are always in the same place.

The little 7MWR with the excavator style dipper (cylinder on top like a usual digger) would be an excellent allround machine for someone that does more 'digging' work, for me the additional pushing power and lift capacity (up to 2.5t) of the Mecalac dipper (Cylinder underneath) is worth it for a lot of the work we carry out.

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Back onto Backhoes though, If Mecalac carry through with the backhoe concept I saw before I left I think there will be a lot of divided opinions ;)
 
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