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Popeye
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Just had the sincro out to give it a good clearing of any debris to sort this reverse gear out. I’m hoping this will do the trick. I’ve established its 4 forward & reverse 
Mick-the-fitter
It’s what I do!
F2L511 in the 2500 but with the Lister Petter option and in the 9ton a 6 Cylinder! Used to do 50 mph down the dual carriage way (no ROPS)
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Popeye
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12 mph feels unsafe in this thing 
Mick-the-fitter
It’s what I do!
They used the same gearbox as almost every 4wheel drive dumper at the time, I think Newage, easy to strip and rebuild, but at one point they stopped supplying the brass end cap on the lay shaft and the input to output shaft roller cage bearing had to be sourced from elsewhere!
Mick-the-fitter
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Reference brake master cylinder, didn’t they have two with a compensator bar joining them and a centre Clevis from the pedal rod?
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Popeye
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Does anyone know how the handbrake system works on one of these things, all I have is a handle. The brakes are in the axles so obviously no drums to connect a cable to ! I honestly have no clue
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
transmission on the prop usually ..... disc and caliper on my 6t thwaitesDoes anyone know how the handbrake system works on one of these things, all I have is a handle. The brakes are in the axles so obviously no drums to connect a cable to ! I honestly have no clue
craig
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Have a look on the front axle, if the is 2 levers coming out of the top, the cable will attach to these, the outer on one lever and the inner on the other, usually threaded through a coil spring, so when the handbrake is released the spring pushes the two levers apart.
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Popeye
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I think your right ! It has a disc on the prop shaft… do you recon it’s possible to retro fit a similar Caliper on it. Not sure I’ll get a part for this dumper
Mick-the-fitter
It’s what I do!
Clean it up, you will need rear disc pads for a jaguar xj6 they are round, the calliper is mechanical, but normally the hand brake lever seizes up, the pads wear and fall out.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
caliper on my thwaites is a 3CX Item I believe, as is the tranny/axles
Mick-the-fitter
It’s what I do!
of course, those are them, they have an M5 bolt through with a squared head that fits in the back of the pads.
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Popeye
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Great pictures much appreciated. The set up looks identical to what’s on mine. From what I can see all that I’m missing is the spring and the G clamp !! I’ve got half a chance
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Popeye
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I’m hoping this is going to be the last question on this dumper subject 
I recon it’s running on 2 out of the 3 cylinders ! I’ve cracked the nuts on each one and don’t get any change in the tick over on the 1st cylinder. Definitely fuel getting there. I removed the injector, split it and made sure the pin inside moved. Everything looked good from a none professional point of view. I’m wondering what your thoughts are ? Should I use the dumper as it is or if it’s an easy ish fix and have a go at a repair ? It’s a shame for it not to be running at its best but how important is it. Tbf I’m not sure what would cause this and how to identify the culprit
I recon it’s running on 2 out of the 3 cylinders ! I’ve cracked the nuts on each one and don’t get any change in the tick over on the 1st cylinder. Definitely fuel getting there. I removed the injector, split it and made sure the pin inside moved. Everything looked good from a none professional point of view. I’m wondering what your thoughts are ? Should I use the dumper as it is or if it’s an easy ish fix and have a go at a repair ? It’s a shame for it not to be running at its best but how important is it. Tbf I’m not sure what would cause this and how to identify the culprit 
Shovelhands
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When you crack off the injector pipe on cylinder No1, do you get fuel out of the injector pipe?I’m hoping this is going to be the last question on this dumper subject
edit, sorry, re-read your post, you’ve got fuel at the injector
Shovelhands
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You could try swapping No1 and No2 injector, see if you move the issue to No2?
But it might be a good idea to whip the rocker box off and inspect the valve gear. Check the clearance on the valves, could have a loose adjuster that’s wound itself down and is holding a valve slightly open? Or possibly it’s got a broken valve spring?
But it might be a good idea to whip the rocker box off and inspect the valve gear. Check the clearance on the valves, could have a loose adjuster that’s wound itself down and is holding a valve slightly open? Or possibly it’s got a broken valve spring?
Shovelhands
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I can’t recall if you established that the oil contained diesel? But if it has been ‘making oil’ then this could be the issue. Injecting fuel which cannot be combusted due to lack of compression = diesel in the sump eventuality….
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
and a washed/glazed bore, resulting in very reduced compression, which will not help a compression ignition (diesel) engine
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Popeye
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I’ll crack on and do the injector swap over, process of elimination..makes sense . I’ll do a bit of research on the valve clearances and should be ok with that. I’ll let you know how I get on
cheers
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Popeye
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That crossed my mind today as was advised to keep a check on the oil. It sounds like something that could do with addressing. Cheers
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