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V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
There are a lot of mods on older cars which can be argued to be improvements like bigger brakes better suspension etc and some even done as original replacement parts no longer available so i don't see how they can suddenly take those cars off the road. I'll be honest newer vehicles those kind of improvements don't really exist for a road going vehicle. Tbh a big chunk of that law change already exists so its a bit like shutting the gate after the horse has bolted. It'll be the emissions that'll be the big clampdown but they'll need stricter mot testing on emissions first.
" The proposals could criminalise everything that is fitted to a vehicle after market" that would include better/grippier tyres Gaz ... we already have the 10 year date stamp ... better windscreen wipers .. more lighting .... think about what you have on your vehicles ... and suddenly it'll fail a ticket and worse could get pulled over and done for, if fitted post ticket and not from the factory !!!! .... this is a.n.other thin end of a 'kin huge wedge toward eliminating anything that doesn't run on AAAs ..... it's the tiniest, slightest excuse to fail everything that doesn't fit their 'brave new electric world' :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
 
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Smiffy

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" The proposals could criminalise everything that is fitted to a vehicle after market" that would include better/grippier tyres Gaz ... we already have the 10 year date stamp ... better windscreen wipers .. more lighting .... think about what you have on your vehicles ... and suddenly it'll fail a ticket and worse could get pulled over and done for, if fitted post ticket and not from the factory !!!! .... this is a.n.other thin end of a 'kin huge wedge toward eliminating anything that doesn't run on AAAs ..... it's the tiniest, slightest excuse to fail everything that doesn't fit their 'brave new electric world' :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

It would also mean only genuine parts to be fitted after a breakdown.
Which I would think would very quickly and easily be fought against.
That is also taken from an article that are possibly being over dramatic
 
JD450A

JD450A

Feral as Fk 🐾
I would be dubious allowing any politician to dabble in law's atm. I'm a stringent supporter of the fact all laws regarding motor vehicles want shaking down and building back up. But as clearly demonstrated by the trailer debarcle. Now is not the time!

Personally the whole lot of career politicians want turfing out and replacing.
 
GazCro

GazCro

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" The proposals could criminalise everything that is fitted to a vehicle after market" that would include better/grippier tyres Gaz ... we already have the 10 year date stamp ... better windscreen wipers .. more lighting .... think about what you have on your vehicles ... and suddenly it'll fail a ticket and worse could get pulled over and done for, if fitted post ticket and not from the factory !!!! .... this is a.n.other thin end of a 'kin huge wedge toward eliminating anything that doesn't run on AAAs ..... it's the tiniest, slightest excuse to fail everything that doesn't fit their 'brave new electric world' :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
I wouldn't dream of modifying any of my vehicles you've got me all wrong mate.

Also me 😆
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Grahams

Grahams

Don't complain - suggest what's better
It will probably be used to enforce the green s**t. Anything the makes your vehicle use more fuel than factory will be banned. So changing my Ranger's tyres from the road ones it comes with to BF Goodrich ATs would be out. Fitting steel security boxes to be pickup bed will be out as added weight, same with hardtop. Once they have the power to do stuff without parlimentary scrutiny you are in trouble. There are plenty of people out there who delight in enforcing petty rules, particularly people who work for the government.
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
I wouldn't dream of modifying any of my vehicles you've got me all wrong mate.

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not quite stock/OE :rolleyes::giggle:
I ummed and ahhed about replacing the centre box on the P38 last year with one of these .....
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half the price of a box an a lot easier to persuade up under it .... but not having heard one, decided against it ..... wonder how this would fare ... proprietary part :unsure: .. hmm
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
It will probably be used to enforce the green s**t. Anything the makes your vehicle use more fuel than factory will be banned. So changing my Ranger's tyres from the road ones it comes with to BF Goodrich ATs would be out. Fitting steel security boxes to be pickup bed will be out as added weight, same with hardtop. Once they have the power to do stuff without parlimentary scrutiny you are in trouble. There are plenty of people out there who delight in enforcing petty rules, particularly people who work for the government.
nail and head Gra .... and it all hinges around (unregulated) control ..... make ownership as difficult as possible and the only thing available to rent/lease is powered by AAAs ..... this gov. is hell bent on taking us down the creek with no paddles in a colander
70% of all land rovers ever made are still on the road .... that'd drop dramatically if they all had to be as left Solihull ... and I'll bet they're a top target to be gotten off the roads
 
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6feetdown

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nail and head Gra .... and it all hinges around (unregulated) control ..... make ownership as difficult as possible and the only thing available to rent/lease is powered by AAAs ..... this gov. is hell bent on taking us down the creek with no paddles in a colander
70% of all land rovers ever made are still on the road .... that'd drop dramatically if they all had to be as left Solihull ... and I'll bet they're a top target to be gotten off the roads
As I've said before "you'll own nothing and be happy"
 
GazCro

GazCro

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not quite stock/OE :rolleyes::giggle:
I ummed and ahhed about replacing the centre box on the P38 last year with one of these .....
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half the price of a box an a lot easier to persuade up under it .... but not having heard one, decided against it ..... wonder how this would fare ... proprietary part :unsure: .. hmm
I replaced rotten original system with aftermarket 2.5 years ago and it's rotted off already. Cheap enough for another at about 140 quid but it'll only be to do in a couple of years again. Cue 3 inch system off a Subaru and a bit of modification it'll outlast the rest of it this time and sounds v little different tbh. Oh nearly forgot tailpipes from a 3cx hope it's not a bad luck charm 🤣🤣
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
I replaced rotten original system with aftermarket 2.5 years ago and it's rotted off already. Cheap enough for another at about 140 quid but it'll only be to do in a couple of years again. Cue 3 inch system off a Subaru and a bit of modification it'll outlast the rest of it this time and sounds v little different tbh. Oh nearly forgot tailpipes from a 3cx hope it's not a bad luck charm 🤣🤣
nothing lasts like it used to though Gaz ..... wiper blades're lucky to do two MOTs/12 months, these days .. twenty years ago you rarely needed to replace 'em in five years :rolleyes:
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
You ran rovers ffs they could barely drag them across the glass let alone wear them out 🤣
now't wrong with the wipers on an SD1 ........ P6s were a different story :rolleyes:
 
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bobthebuilder

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not strictly leccy variety, per se, but anyone shed any light on this ???

" CALL FOR EXEMPTION FROM NEW TRANSPORT REGULATION PROPOSALS

With a new bill currently in consultation on how to regulate vehicle standards in the future that includes anti-tampering laws, the Historic & Classic Vehicles Alliance (HCVA) have written a response expressing their concerns along with some requests for the Government to consider.

The ‘Future of Transport’ consultation focused on supporting the automotive industry and to ensure that transport regulations are fit for the future, with proposals to enable the Government to better prevent harmful tampering with vehicle emission control systems.

The bill would allow the Government the tools they need to regulate and control vehicle standards without having to go through the long process it does currently. While this is a good thing as it aims to make roads safer and better for everyone, the HCVA want to make sure that they don’t overlook the implications of this new bill on historic and classic vehicles. As part of their response, the HCVA have requested three things.

The first is the exclusion of historic and classic vehicles from the new rules, with the rules only applying to new cars and not cars already on the road. They have also asked that any existing garages, engineers and owners as well as businesses in the sector are exempt from a requirement to enforce the new rules on historic vehicles.

The new bill would also allow any further changes to be made in the future without official guidance or secondary legislation, meaning that a discussion in Parliament can be avoided if there are any challenges. The HVCA have asked for the classic and historic vehicle sector to be safeguarded from these powers. This would mean that any changes that may hurt classic vehicles would need to go back to Parliament for a debate and vote.

The new bill also includes proposed ban on tampering. The ban aims to make it illegal to alter cars in any way that would impact the environment, road safety or security. It’s another positive step for improving our roads but it could have some implications for classic vehicle owners too. The proposals could criminalise everything that is fitted to a vehicle after market, so the HVCA has asked that the Government consider a different way to solve the tampering issue or put in exclusions for the classic and historic vehicle sector.


The HCVA say they will continue to keep a close eye on the situation. Find out more about their response to the proposed bill on their website. "

So WTF are they trying to sneak through now, under cover of all that is currently going on/not being reported on ????? :unsure::(:mad:

" ...The proposals could criminalise everything that is fitted to a vehicle after market,.... " .... additional lighting springs instantly to mind, roll bars, bull bars, tow bars?? :oops:, side steps, roof racks, hard tops, snorkel kits, suspension lifts/alterations/upgrades, wheels/tyres! ... anything that does not arrive as it leaves the factory
what about non geniune parts ?
 
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bobthebuilder

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nothing lasts like it used to though Gaz ..... wiper blades're lucky to do two MOTs/12 months, these days .. twenty years ago you rarely needed to replace 'em in five years :rolleyes:
only because we wouldnt go out driving in the rain for fear of breaking down :)
 
Left hooker

Left hooker

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Can of worms ...they don't get that not everyone lives in flat no 248 in tower Hamlets and drives a milkfloat.🖕
USA looks more inviting every day.😌
Not good for car mods in California and it's creeping into other states
 
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