tipper trailers suspension?

[pettsy]

When you’re talking in the thousands for a trailer to do the job, could you look for a cheap narrow pickup/tipper like the Nissan cabstar/Isuzu equivalent.

 

[Smiffy]

Thought about that but would have to hire someone's drive and I think that would be hassle to arrange.
I know a trailer will work because I got my gh1054 in there.

Depends how quickly you can load the dumper. If it's all stockpiled ready to go can't you have a grab waiting in the road to grab straight out the dumper. Waiting time for grabs is pretty cheap. If it's an hour to the tip your own time and fuel may not work out any cheaper

 

[Russell]

I hadn't thought of that

Depends how quickly you can load the dumper. If it's all stockpiled ready to go can't you have a grab waiting in the road to grab straight out the dumper. Waiting time for grabs is pretty cheap. If it's an hour to the tip your own time and fuel may not work out any cheaper

I hadn't thought of that

 

[CPS]

My mate bought the big nugget as they call it as he couldn’t wait for an ifor, seems well made 1 piece sides with proper latches so doesn’t rattle like the ifor, the sides like to fall off the ifor when open my toe has discovered that a few times. Build quality and galvanising is poor on my feb 2021 ifor. Had 4 lynch pins fail and the retaining u that holds the bolt has sheared off one of the middle posts. Expected better for £5600 plus vat. Going to add the winch post to mine for getting mixers and other stuff on and off.

I'd put the Nugent trailer way ahead of the ifor Williams personally. Far stronger build. I took the old mans ifor one day and I thought i was going to crack up with the noise of the sides rattling .

My mate has a tri axle nugent 16ft, it's a beast sat beside my 14.5 ft Brian james.

Thing you have to remember about the Nugent is, it's built over here...... they know they have to build them strong cos there's a good chance they will have a five tonner on them at some stage

 

[CPS]

what makes of tipping trailer have something other than rubber suspension?
Ive got to price a job where the only way to get the muck out is in a trailer.
I cant hire one on the island and it looks like you cant get a new ifor for 2 years.
nugent are £7500
I see debon can be had for £5500 but are rubber.

On another note, why not go for rubber suspension? My Brian james trailer has it and I don't think I'd go for anything else now

 

[GazCro]

The trailers thing is always coming up and i always find it amusing. They all use wheels axles hitch etc from the same couple of suppliers. Outside of that it's down to using the bare minimum of metal to build a trailer to carry the max load and stay under 3.5 ton. They are all a compromise it's just that depending on how you use it which corners cut are gonna matter the most. Nugent should be good in theory as up until a few year back they bought most of their trailers off ifor as a kit and assembled it themselves so in theory now when they look to be doing most of it themselves they should have seen areas which can be improved (or maybe not).

 

[Russell]

On another note, why not go for rubber suspension? My Brian james trailer has it and I don't think I'd go for anything else now

I just feel it won't last as long as a leaf. And when it fails it will probably be more expensive to fix.

 

[doobin]

I just feel it won't last as long as a leaf. And when it fails it will probably be more expensive to fix.

They last ok but are vulnerable to being kerbed. I had a driver who was a nightmare for that. Got quite adept at bashing them back vaguely straight with a forklift. Switched over to leaf springs and the driver retired

 

[hiluxman]

They last ok but are vulnerable to being kerbed. I had a driver who was a nightmare for that. Got quite adept at bashing them back vaguely straight with a forklift. Switched over to leaf springs and the driver retired

If the driver retired then why switch?

 

[doobin]

If the driver retired then why switch?

Went to a new ifor from a secondhand indespension. Would never buy indespension again, had three and all were s**t.
My triaxle tipper is on indespension units however, and has survived so far. Guess six suspension units carrying 3.5t fare far better than four.

 

[GazCro]

Went to a new ifor from a secondhand indespension. Would never buy indespension again, had three and all were s**t.
My triaxle tipper is on indespension units however, and has survived so far. Guess six suspension units carrying 3.5t fare far better than four.

The biggest issue indespension units have is riding up over a kerb for example seriously overloads them individually where leaf springs take it better. The other thing is rubber doesn't really have a spring rate.

 

[Grahams]

The biggest issue indespension units have is riding up over a kerb for example seriously overloads them individually where leaf springs take it better. The other thing is rubber doesn't really have a spring rate.

Ifor leaf suspension is liable to break backing over curbs when loaded. The leaves have a retaining bolt at the front and free to move at the back. I’ve broken several at the retaining bolt backing over only small curbs. I guess the load hits it in the wrong place.

 

[Monkeybusiness]

Ifor leaf suspension is liable to break backing over curbs when loaded. The leaves have a retaining bolt at the front and free to move at the back. I’ve broken several at the retaining bolt backing over only small curbs. I guess the load hits it in the wrong place.

Double leafs on Ifor’s are much better than the single leafs IME.

 

[DaveDCB]

How much muck have you got to shift?
Pair of 1ton high tips into skips dropped somewhere that a grab can get too? Or 3ton dumpers into a roro at the end of the road? Soon becomes a lot faster than you’d think.

 

[Chase Building]

If you’re looking at second hand too, I’ve got a 2021 build Ifor TT3017 tipper I was thinking of selling.
Not getting much use since summer.

 

[Russell]

Im not so sure about the grab idea thinking about it, its just too busy with traffic and pedestrians. I really think the only easy way to do it without organising a load of bollocks is make my way through it with a micro and trailer.

 

[V8Druid]

Im not so sure about the grab idea thinking about it, its just too busy with traffic and pedestrians. I really think the only easy way to do it without organising a load of bollocks is make my way through it with a micro and trailer.

what exactly are you tasked with doing?

 

[Russell]

Just reducing the level of a garden and sticking up a fence really, maybe a retaining wall. I need to go back and measure up to work out how much to take away. I suspect a couple days with a trailer would do it.

 

[doobin]

Just reducing the level of a garden and sticking up a fence really, maybe a retaining wall. I need to go back and measure up to work out how much to take away. I suspect a couple days with a trailer would do it.

Don't underestimate how long it'll take to drive to the tip and back, plus waiting to tip.

Nowhere you can stick a skip? Soil only skips aren't too bad cost wise, especially when you consider the time and diesel you'll save.

Plus my trailer hire fees

 

[Russell]

Plus my trailer hire fees

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