Coronavirus

Storrsy

Storrsy

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It's a f****ng joke- If they are that worried about the dirty unvaccinated working in the hospitals- surely they should have implemented before winter not after (it doesn't take until April to get double jabbed). So basically they are quite happy to have the unvaccinated to help cope with winter pressures but once that's done it's on your bike! I'd love it if all 100,000 unvaccinated NHS workers just walked out- dont think NHS are in a position to be calling the shots😂
 
Bob

Bob

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Thought they would have learnt from what have happened to care homes think 60000 carers have left the caring secter because no jabs some homes say they might have to close because of staff shortages
 
Storrsy

Storrsy

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Thought they would have learnt from what have happened to care homes think 60000 carers have left the caring secter because no jabs some homes say they might have to close because of staff shortages
Ha yeah and where have those care workers gone-- many to work for the NHS- I think Javid needs to get a dose of reality before he starts throwing his weight around- jabs aside the, NHS staff are pressured to the hilt, short staffed. Is he going to get into scrubs and start wiping people's asses- course he isn't!
If people have already left care homes what makes him think that suddenly they'll rush out and get their jabs now. Prat!
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
excellent article(y)

Particularly find some of these statements very interesting

" The Covid vaccines have been developed to reduce symptom severity rather than to provide sterilising immunity, and I am relatively young and in good health. Crucially, I have had Covid-19 and have antibodies. I am confused as to why previous infection is not being taken into consideration when assessing individual need for vaccination especially as all available data showed negligible risk of reinfection.

Vaccines do not stop transmission.
That’s clear to me as a nurse. Why would we introduce a vaccine passport? Why would we mandate vaccinations to access venues or public places or make it a requirement for jobs? Why should I lose my job if I decide not to be vaccinated?

I feel appalled at the idea of a two-tier society.

Informed consent is the bedrock of good clinical practice. You document that consent has been obtained for every procedure. How would you obtain informed consent from someone who you know has had no choice but to be vaccinated else they’ll lose their job? How do you consent a child who has been told that if they don’t have the vaccine they wont be able to go to a football match or out for dinner? Plenty of adults have been vaccinated because of the potential risk to their freedoms rather than any potential health benefits. This is ethically wrong and scientifically unsubstantiated.

I have been a nurse all my working life. I care. It’s a reflex. But if vaccines are forced on NHS staff, I want no part of it. "
:mad::mad::mad::mad:
 
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Mogman

Mogman

What man as done, man can do, what never has,maybe
none of 'em really have a ****ing clue WTF they're doing .... lurch from one speculative announcement to the next .... only way to stay safe from 'em is stay clear of the whole circus and buy a 2m cattle prod
One of these😂😂
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Gecko

Gecko

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Got my third today.
A Pfizer on top of two AZ.

edit:
48 hours - I'm still alive
 
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hiluxman

hiluxman

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missed sweet FA then ..... other than a load of biased bollox and utter sensationalism :mad:
Yeah, used to watch it early morning, must say I've not missed it one bit. Only news I hear now is on the radio and most of the time that annoys me as I'd rather they just play music
 
TiltyShaun

TiltyShaun

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So despite almost all the population having had there booster vaccine, not just double jabbed, they are heading for Xmas restrictions. Surprise surprise the vaccine is no longer working on the variant that is doing the rounds. Roll up, roll up you need your 4th dose!!
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better

So despite almost all the population having had there booster vaccine, not just double jabbed, they are heading for Xmas restrictions. Surprise surprise the vaccine is no longer working on the variant that is doing the rounds. Roll up, roll up you need your 4th dose!!
pretty pointless anyway as it would appear that the 'jabs' developed on the original strain compromise the body's own abilities to fight any of the variants :(:(

" in a nutshell .. the first time we are exposed to a disease agent, such as a virus, the response of the body’s immune system shapes how we deal with modified forms of the same pathogen – such as virus variants – when we meet them later.

With Covid, the vaccines we have seen so far target a single part of the virus, the famous spike protein. That is in sharp contrast to what happens when we meet the virus naturally. In the latter case, the infection provokes production of antibodies against a range of virus proteins, including the spike but also one called the nucleocapsid or N-protein. This plays a key role in the virus’s life cycle. So, people who mount a successful immune response to the infection subsequently enjoy much better protection than the merely vaccinated.

The problem goes still deeper: when those who have had the jab are exposed to the natural infection, their antibodies focus on the spike protein with which they were originally inoculated. If that has changed in the meantime, it becomes much easier for the virus to bypass the immune defences‘potentially for good
(ever), and in billions of people’, .... :oops::oops:


His speculation is supported by a recent Journal of Infection article finding just that kind of mechanism at work. People who receive a vaccine based on the spike protein of the original Wuhan virus produce antibodies which limit protection, and even enhance infection, when they are exposed to the Delta strain. "

 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Is the booster the vaccine,for the vaccine?
" the raw data shows infection rates often much higher in the double-vaccinated than the unvaccinated " ......
'cos the unvaccinated behave cautiously and responsibly, unlike the jabbed, who think they're totally fireproof and behave like nothing ever happened, they can't possibly catch it, spread it, or possibly even die from it . ....... wake up, smell the coffee and recognise when you're being blatantly lied to ... you are not being vaccinated ... you're being injected with a serum to try to reduce the inevitable effects of catching it, by behaving like idiots
 
JD450A

JD450A

Feral as Fk 🐾
" the raw data shows infection rates often much higher in the double-vaccinated than the unvaccinated " ......
'cos the unvaccinated behave cautiously and responsibly, unlike the jabbed, who think they're totally fireproof and behave like nothing ever happened, they can't possibly catch it, spread it, or possibly even die from it . ....... wake up, smell the coffee and recognise when you're being blatantly lied to ... you are not being vaccinated ... you're being injected with a serum to try to reduce the inevitable effects of catching it, by behaving like idiots
Or because the wacky loons are right and catching the disease gives longer lasting immunity than the Jab?
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Or because the wacky loons are right and catching the disease gives longer lasting immunity than the Jab?
natural immunity is real immunity ... end of .. your own body's systems have gotten a handle on it and coped (as long as it didn't kill you - or contribute to your demise)
 
Bob

Bob

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To me its looking like most of europe and probably uk are bringing in a medical ID and you will be forced to carry it with you at all times ,so they will know were you our at any given time .Then it only a matter of time before its not just medical ID but general info about you on your ID app.If you think thats far feched just look at china
 
GazCro

GazCro

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Well from what I've worked out since this all started and by what I've read and been told by various different sources (some with an awful lot more medical knowledge than me) is this. There currently is NO VACCINE it doesn't exist as it doesn't stop you getting it and it also loses any benefits it has over time. What you can get is a jab to hopefully lessen the effect of covid if you get it and now a booster to help a bit more. How many more boosters? The way i see it we got the chance of a jab to take pressure off the nhs and they are gonna keep jabbing us in the mean time until they actually make a vaccine. I've had my first 2 ages ago but as far as boosters are concerned I'm not bothered. I'm neither for nor against but i deffo do not agree with it being forced upon anyone.
 
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