360 CPCS, Beginner Questions

[Bri963]

I would prefer to do it this way too, even if I don't get paid for it.
I worked with a builder who does mainly renovations, done some gardening with a shovel too but otherwise, he does not have big enough jobs to have such machines on site. It seems to be a catch-22.

What was your entry into this industry?

My entry was a long time ago, so not really relevant now, but I started on a farm which also had a couple of small bits of muck shifting kit. Moved round a bit and got a lot of general operating and maintenance experience on equipment in a few different industries, then agency work before regular self-employment with several local companies. In a nutshell.

Going to disagree with you about large muck shifts, Smiffy. I always found them very entertaining when payday came round.

 

[V8Druid]

My entry was a long time ago, so not really relevant now, but I started on a farm which also had a couple of small bits of muck shifting kit. Moved round a bit and got a lot of general operating and maintenance experience on equipment in a few different industries, then agency work before regular self-employment with several local companies. In a nutshell.

Going to disagree with you about large muck shifts, Smiffy. I always found them very entertaining when payday came round.

I'd agree Bri ... if you wanted to just sit and operate - Ideal

 

[Vinpetrol]

Depression, Back issues, Depression, Physcosis..... Yeah this months job is pretty miserable.... I feel like Hawkeye off MASH but at least the 4077th had important work to do.

Would you rather work in an office

 

[JD450A]

Would you rather work in an office

On this job, Yes..... Normally I'd be gone faster than wile e' coyote on a rocket but it's for a good friend and there is a reason I'm there..... Not sure of the reason. Money is grand, jobs not.

 

[Giles]

Depression, Back issues, Depress ion, Physcosis..... Yeah this months job is pretty miserable.... I feel like Hawkeye off MASH but at least the 4077th had important work to do.

And he had hot lips,, hollihan to keep him distracted

 

[JD450A]

And he had hot lips,, hollihan to keep him distracted

Yes, lucky bastard, I've one that looks a bit like clinger.

 

[doobin]

Yes, lucky bastard, I've one that looks a bit like clinger.

That’s no way to talk about your sister, son!

 

[Vinpetrol]

On this job, Yes..... Normally I'd be gone faster than wile e' coyote on a rocket but it's for a good friend and there is a reason I'm there..... Not sure of the reason. Money is grand, jobs not.

You gotta take the rough to appreciate the smooth !

 

[Vinpetrol]

Check out "Stuart McGill" about back issues, he's world-leading expert for back problems. Low back issue seem to be so predominant in all kinds of industries and it is most likely the result of poor posture coupled with a weak core.

I could imagine causing such issues when done year-long round but I wouldn't be doing that. The reason I would not is because I want to invest the rest of the year in my "inner peace" so as to prevent depression, stress and such.

The more I think about this the more I like it .
might need a bit more than the 10k though but six months off with Arthur Guinness helping me with my inner peace might be ok

 

[V8Druid]

The more I think about this the more I like it .
might need a bit more than the 10k though but six months off with Arthur Guinness helping me with my inner peace might be ok

Pam's lad Josh, has always made an effort to earn, even in school hol.s, etc.. He's a very bright lad
got himself a job at a local testing lab between school and Uni hadn't been there much more than a week and he'd learnt to run every piece of kit they had and his paltry start pay had jumped considerably ..
they'd recognised his potential in the work force, fair play to them ...
tried hard to dissuade him from leaving for uni, but did manage to recruit him to do site testing for them, in his spare time and it contributed significantly to his finances through uni.
any way ..
and this is my point here ...
fast forward to the end of his uni time and they were like rats up a drain pipe to recruit him back to their facilities full time .....
which he did for a while, but on one condition ...
he worked a four day week ....
when asked why/what was so important to him to have the three days free, he told them that they just could not afford his Fridays - end of ...
nor could anyone else. He still works a 3.5/4 day week, ten plus years on ..
different employer, but .....
they can't afford his Fridays either

on edit
I should add that J's sister, Clara's mum, also has the same level of work ethic, but does a 5 day week, these days, teaching - less strenuous/stressful than her previous 7 day weeks, self employed ....... they're a great pair of kids, fair play to them both

 

[Vinpetrol]

Pam's lad Josh, has always made an effort to earn, even in school hol.s, etc.. He's a very bright lad
got himself a job at a local testing lab between school and Uni hadn't been there much more than a week and he'd learnt to run every piece of kit they had and his paltry start pay had jumped considerably ..
they'd recognised his potential in the work force, fair play to them ...
tried hard to dissuade him from leaving for uni, but did manage to recruit him to do site testing for them, in his spare time and it contributed significantly to his finances through uni.
any way ..
and this is my point here ...
fast forward to the end of his uni time and they were like rats up a drain pipe to recruit him back to their facilities full time .....
which he did for a while, but on one condition ...
he worked a four day week ....
when asked why/what was so important to him to have the three days free, he told them that they just could not afford his Fridays - end of ...
nor could anyone else. He still works a 3.5/4 day week, ten plus years on ..
different employer, but .....
they can't afford his Fridays either

on edit
I should add that J's sister, Clara's mum, also has the same level of work ethic ....... they're a great pair of kids, fair play to them both

Great idea , work life balance much better with a long weekend every weekend .

Edit : If you work for me please take no notice of this post

 

[V8Druid]

Great idea , work life balance much better with a long weekend every weekend .

Edit : If you work for me please take no notice of this post

 

[Gunners]

@MovingEarth Ill swap teaching you to drive machines/ groundwork if you can teach me how the hell you live in or around London on £10k/year!

You make a fair point on the work life balance thing and in my younger days I thought I wouldn't fall into the trap of working for a living but here we are and to be honest I'm proud of what I have, the business I have built and the standard of living that affords me. Certainly short on free time but then I think many of us on here wouldn't know what free time is because we all like keeping busy and would find things to fill it with instead! I call my business work, but in reality I enjoy what I do and there's many that don't, so I am grateful for that.

What's your transport situation like? Do you drive etc? I know a few landscapers who work in Surrey who are always looking for keen people to work with them. It wont be a straight forward machine driving job by any means but you would get the opportunity to drive a variety of kit and learn practical skills as well which are always valuable in life. And in my experience, the landscaping industry is full of much nicer guys than the construction game, and a lot of how you enjoy work is who you do it with IMHO.

I wouldn't do a ticket to start me off, whatever you do, I think you could find someone to get you started without needing a ticket but it no doubt will involve some hands on work too which you don't seem scared of so should be fine. Have you considered agriculture? Also another more laid back industry that doesn't have so much red tape to enter. Just a thought.

 

[Stubota86]

@MovingEarth Ill swap teaching you to drive machines/ groundwork if you can teach me how the hell you live in or around London on £10k/year!

You make a fair point on the work life balance thing and in my younger days I thought I wouldn't fall into the trap of working for a living but here we are and to be honest I'm proud of what I have, the business I have built and the standard of living that affords me. Certainly short on free time but then I think many of us on here wouldn't know what free time is because we all like keeping busy and would find things to fill it with instead! I call my business work, but in reality I enjoy what I do and there's many that don't, so I am grateful for that.

What's your transport situation like? Do you drive etc? I know a few landscapers who work in Surrey who are always looking for keen people to work with them. It wont be a straight forward machine driving job by any means but you would get the opportunity to drive a variety of kit and learn practical skills as well which are always valuable in life. And in my experience, the landscaping industry is full of much nicer guys than the construction game, and a lot of how you enjoy work is who you do it with IMHO.

I wouldn't do a ticket to start me off, whatever you do, I think you could find someone to get you started without needing a ticket but it no doubt will involve some hands on work too which you don't seem scared of so should be fine. Have you considered agriculture? Also another more laid back industry that doesn't have so much red tape to enter. Just a thought.

great advice.

hoping to get down to Operator of the Year and support the PT members btw

 

[JD450A]

@MovingEarth Ill swap teaching you to drive machines/ groundwork if you can teach me how the hell you live in or around London on £10k/year!

 

[bobthebuilder]

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[MovingEarth]

@MovingEarth Ill swap teaching you to drive machines/ groundwork if you can teach me how the hell you live in or around London on £10k/year!

You make a fair point on the work life balance thing and in my younger days I thought I wouldn't fall into the trap of working for a living but here we are and to be honest I'm proud of what I have, the business I have built and the standard of living that affords me. Certainly short on free time but then I think many of us on here wouldn't know what free time is because we all like keeping busy and would find things to fill it with instead! I call my business work, but in reality I enjoy what I do and there's many that don't, so I am grateful for that.

What's your transport situation like? Do you drive etc? I know a few landscapers who work in Surrey who are always looking for keen people to work with them. It wont be a straight forward machine driving job by any means but you would get the opportunity to drive a variety of kit and learn practical skills as well which are always valuable in life. And in my experience, the landscaping industry is full of much nicer guys than the construction game, and a lot of how you enjoy work is who you do it with IMHO.

I wouldn't do a ticket to start me off, whatever you do, I think you could find someone to get you started without needing a ticket but it no doubt will involve some hands on work too which you don't seem scared of so should be fine. Have you considered agriculture? Also another more laid back industry that doesn't have so much red tape to enter. Just a thought.

Thank you for your thoughtful reply.

My life is pretty cheap, I don't drink/smoke/no drugs, gambling, processed foods, caffeine/eat once a day/drink only water mostly/sleep and sit on the ground.. get 5k passive income per year and need around 7k a year for accommodation including bills. I will have 1k+ to spend each month which I can use to travel with for volunteering and meeting people, mostly looking for culturally rich places like South East Asia or South America, the flight is expensive but once you land there it is dirt cheap. So I use the time to explore cultures/languages/foods, meditate, develop my character and spirituality, and generally becoming a better human.

I do drive and landscaping is definitely something I have considered especially since I feel great surrounded by trees/nature/gardens. I have visited Surrey a couple of times, and it is one of my favourite areas.. the people are lovely there. You are right, construction guys seem to be on edge (substance abuse etc.).. I think mostly because many are unsatisfied and feel unfulfilled with what they are doing. I have worked as a labourer for some time and one of the many reasons was because the builder was great to work for. I am not sure how I would be able to structure 4-6 months of work a year with landscaping though, do you have any ideas? I don't want to join companies and leave them every year, it does not seem honest.

I have posted on another forum that has people in farming/agriculture if I could work for them.

 

[Monkeybusiness]

Thank you for your thoughtful reply.

My life is pretty cheap, I don't drink/smoke/no drugs, gambling, processed foods, caffeine/eat once a day/drink only water mostly/sleep and sit on the ground.. get 5k passive income per year and need around 7k a year for accommodation including bills. I will have 1k+ to spend each month which I can use to travel with for volunteering and meeting people, mostly looking for culturally rich places like South East Asia or South America, the flight is expensive but once you land there it is dirt cheap. So I use the time to explore cultures/languages/foods, meditate, develop my character and spirituality, and generally becoming a better human.

I do drive and landscaping is definitely something I have considered especially since I feel great surrounded by trees/nature/gardens. I have visited Surrey a couple of times, and it is one of my favourite areas.. the people are lovely there. You are right, construction guys seem to be on edge (substance abuse etc.).. I think mostly because many are unsatisfied and feel unfulfilled with what they are doing. I have worked as a labourer for some time and one of the many reasons was because the builder was great to work for. I am not sure how I would be able to structure 4-6 months of work a year with landscaping though, do you have any ideas? I don't want to join companies and leave them every year, it does not seem honest.

I have posted on another forum that has people in farming/agriculture if I could work for them.

I’m interested in this £5k passive income - where do I sign up?!

 

[Brendan]

Thank you for your thoughtful reply.

My life is pretty cheap, I don't drink/smoke/no drugs, gambling, processed foods, caffeine/eat once a day/drink only water mostly/sleep and sit on the ground.. get 5k passive income per year and need around 7k a year for accommodation including bills. I will have 1k+ to spend each month which I can use to travel with for volunteering and meeting people, mostly looking for culturally rich places like South East Asia or South America, the flight is expensive but once you land there it is dirt cheap. So I use the time to explore cultures/languages/foods, meditate, develop my character and spirituality, and generally becoming a better human.

I do drive and landscaping is definitely something I have considered especially since I feel great surrounded by trees/nature/gardens. I have visited Surrey a couple of times, and it is one of my favourite areas.. the people are lovely there. You are right, construction guys seem to be on edge (substance abuse etc.).. I think mostly because many are unsatisfied and feel unfulfilled with what they are doing. I have worked as a labourer for some time and one of the many reasons was because the builder was great to work for. I am not sure how I would be able to structure 4-6 months of work a year with landscaping though, do you have any ideas? I don't want to join companies and leave them every year, it does not seem honest.

I have posted on another forum that has people in farming/agriculture if I could work for them.

It works for some companies, I know a couple of people who disappear from around November to April ish every year both worked for people or large company and it kind of helps them when winter comes not having an extra wage to pay.

You could always just become a gardener you wouldn't need more than a lawn mower and a few tools and it's seasonal

 

[Bri963]

Where’s he gone?