Government proposal to change trailer licensing regulations.

[Ric1985]

I think it's stupid, all that will happen is there will be lots of dangerous drivers on the road the wages will drop, the good drivers will leave the industry and the good drivers will be replaced with bad ones. Put the wages up and give people an incentive to join the profession instead of putting public safety at risk by cutting corners

 

[GazCro]

You need to read the caravan & horse forums.
Full of gloating comments re buying & towing now.
There will be a sudden glut of new towing.

Lots of the same elsewhere but missing one small detail, you can't take a test after the 20th sept but the law hasn't changed yet or been announced when. So until the law changes they can't legally tow or take a test.

 

[Lancs Lad]

Yes and they can gloat all they like....but the gloating stops when you view the crash barrier from a sedentary upside down position.

 

[hiluxman]

Lots of the same elsewhere but missing one small detail, you can't take a test after the 20th sept but the law hasn't changed yet or been announced when. So until the law changes they can't legally tow or take a test.

I was just going to say the same, goes to show they don't actually read the full info.

 

[V8Druid]

well you can guys .. on L plates with a suitable driver beside you up to 3.5t (assuming capability of towing vehicle)

" Drivers who passed their car test before 1 January 1997 can already tow a car and trailer without taking a car and trailer test.
As a result of these changes, all car drivers will be able to tow a trailer weighing up to 3,500kg without the need for an additional test when the law is changed, which will be as soon as possible.
Until then, car drivers who gained their licence after 1 January 1997 will only be able to tow a trailer weighing up to 3,500kg if they display L plates and are supervised by a driver aged over 21 who has had a car and trailer licence for 3 years or more or passed their car test before 1 January 1997. " (post on page 2)

 

[GazCro]

well you can guys .. on L plates with a suitable driver beside you up to 3.5t (assuming capability of towing vehicle)

" Drivers who passed their car test before 1 January 1997 can already tow a car and trailer without taking a car and trailer test.
As a result of these changes, all car drivers will be able to tow a trailer weighing up to 3,500kg without the need for an additional test when the law is changed, which will be as soon as possible.
Until then, car drivers who gained their licence after 1 January 1997 will only be able to tow a trailer weighing up to 3,500kg if they display L plates and are supervised by a driver aged over 21 who has had a car and trailer licence for 3 years or more or passed their car test before 1 January 1997. " (post on page 2)

Which you can do already anyways

 

[V8Druid]

as for all the poor buggers who shelled out ..... yer 'tis in black and white

" Tests from 20 September 2021
Your car and trailer driving test will not go ahead if it was due to take place on or after 20 September 2021.
If you booked the test yourself, DVSA will automatically cancel it for you. You’ll get a full refund within 5 working days.
If your driving instructor booked your test for you, talk to them about what happens next.
You cannot get a refund or compensation for any training that you’ve taken to help you prepare to take the test.

If you had previously passed a car and trailer driving test​

You cannot get a refund or compensation for any training that you took to help you prepare to take a car and trailer driving test.
You also cannot get a refund for any tests you took.
Published 10 September 2021

 

[V8Druid]

Which you can do already anyways

er no
" Licences issued from 1 January 1997 to 18 January 2013
If you passed your car driving test from 1 January 1997 to 18 January 2013, you can currently drive either of the following:

• a car or van up to 3,500kg MAM towing a trailer of up to 750kg MAM (up to 4,250kg in total)
• a trailer over 750kg MAM, as long as it is no more than the unladen weight of the towing vehicle (up to 3,500kg in total)

You’ve had to pass a car and trailer driving test if you want to tow anything heavier.

Licences issued from 19 January 2013​

If you passed your car driving test from 19 January 2013, you can currently drive either of the following:

• a car or van up to 3,500kg MAM towing a trailer of up to 750kg MAM (up to 4,250kg in total)
• a trailer over 750kg MAM as long as the combined MAM of the trailer and towing vehicle is no more than 3,500kg

You’ve had to pass a car and trailer driving test if you want to tow anything heavier.

 

[Smiffy]

Er that (weight) is exactly how licences are categorised.

I mean at the top end of the spectrum
Where it's done on rigid and arctic
C should be 32t and the next license unlimited

 

[GazCro]

er no
" Licences issued from 1 January 1997 to 18 January 2013
If you passed your car driving test from 1 January 1997 to 18 January 2013, you can currently drive either of the following:

• a car or van up to 3,500kg MAM towing a trailer of up to 750kg MAM (up to 4,250kg in total)
• a trailer over 750kg MAM, as long as it is no more than the unladen weight of the towing vehicle (up to 3,500kg in total)

You’ve had to pass a car and trailer driving test if you want to tow anything heavier.

Licences issued from 19 January 2013​

If you passed your car driving test from 19 January 2013, you can currently drive either of the following:

• a car or van up to 3,500kg MAM towing a trailer of up to 750kg MAM (up to 4,250kg in total)
• a trailer over 750kg MAM as long as the combined MAM of the trailer and towing vehicle is no more than 3,500kg

You’ve had to pass a car and trailer driving test if you want to tow anything heavier.

Ah you could tow with l plates but not loaded before (was too allow you to get to test basically or learn). Still no benefit if you wanna tow by yourself though is it. As for all those griping about having had to pay for a test, it's no big hardship provided you haven't just done it in last few weeks.

 

[Lancs Lad]

Ah you could tow with l plates but not loaded before (was too allow you to get to test basically or learn). Still no benefit if you wanna tow by yourself though is it. As for all those griping about having had to pay for a test, it's no big hardship provided you haven't just done it in last few weeks.

Agree , yes it was few quid back then but tbf I think it made me a better driver...basically a full test with bit of reversing /uncouple thrown in.
I do know one lad who's waited since b4 lockdown 1 and had 3 tests cancelled now he's just passed...enjoyable windup..proper pissed off

 

[JD450A]

enjoyable windup..proper pissed off

Send me his phone number for the craic please.

 

[Lancs Lad]

Send me his phone number for the craic please.

He's not that bad

 

[JD450A]

He's not that bad

"Hello this is ted from DVSA" I'm doing a customer survey and wondered if you would participate"

Pleassse

 

[V8Druid]

"Hello this is ted from DVSA" I'm doing a customer survey and wondered if you would participate"

Pleassse

but make sure you record the rant

 

[Justme]

Lots of the same elsewhere but missing one small detail, you can't take a test after the 20th sept but the law hasn't changed yet or been announced when. So until the law changes they can't legally tow or take a test.

correct

 

[Justme]

Ah you could tow with l plates but not loaded before (was too allow you to get to test basically or learn). Still no benefit if you wanna tow by yourself though is it. As for all those griping about having had to pay for a test, it's no big hardship provided you haven't just done it in last few weeks.

not being loaded on L plates was never the law.

 

[craig]

Reading elsewhere, a HGV training place owner, saying he had been invited for talks with the DVSA, and saying there where some surprises on the way, but as they weren't in the public domain wouldn't say what they where.
Then this poped up on the news feed on my phone. Possible trailer testing and registration....
I normally like to see this stuff on a .gov site to know its righ,t not from a rag, so it could be way off the mark and 2+2 getting five, but it could have something about it with doing away with B+E test...people not being trained to check their trailer so being forced to?

Caravan rules could introduce ‘potential benefits’

CARAVAN rule changes considered by the DfT could introduce a range of "potential benefits" for owners, according to the (contains affiliate links)

www.express.co.uk

 

[Gunners]

Oh god, could do without having to test my trailers, struggling to get my new kennel (as Rory calls it) to have any brakes at all. The cattle trailer currently sat in a hedge has no chance, yee haa its the wild west down south here boys, anything goes!

 

[Brendan]

Reading elsewhere, a HGV training place owner, saying he had been invited for talks with the DVSA, and saying there where some surprises on the way, but as they weren't in the public domain wouldn't say what they where.
Then this poped up on the news feed on my phone. Possible trailer testing and registration....
I normally like to see this stuff on a .gov site to know its righ,t not from a rag, so it could be way off the mark and 2+2 getting five, but it could have something about it with doing away with B+E test...people not being trained to check their trailer so being forced to?

Caravan rules could introduce ‘potential benefits’

CARAVAN rule changes considered by the DfT could introduce a range of "potential benefits" for owners, according to the (contains affiliate links)

www.express.co.uk

There has been rumours about mot style tests for for trailers over the last few years.
Registration is a bit of a new thing but how would they ensure the older trailers are owned by legitimate owners

Trailer driving test doesn't cover any sort of maintenance or repairs, there is only a show me tell me part which covers basic stuff about checking trailer lights work and connecting the trailer up.