Sandhill Plant

[Diggerdave]

Ok, thanks for that. I am in Gloucester, I think there is a dealer fairly near to me. I've not spoken to them . I'll probably give you a call next week. Thanks, Dave.

 

[T whiting]

So it’s been a minute , I will blog a bit about our goings on but heres a new view... yard extension you can see a before image

Also finally was able to afford a mez after all the plant talk memebership joins. This is in our small shed View attachment 23436View attachment 23437View attachment 23434

The yard now extends up our lane , so we have grown a lot , we have some work to do on security and visibility from passing roads , I like to be secure. Will update that in the members area.

Looks like a good expansion

Now it just looks like you need some plant to fill it

 

[Regy53]

Dont, we talked about it for ages and when we decide to do it theres zero stock about, summer last year we couldnt move. So the sun will shine again and we are ready

 

[Regy53]

It’s been a while.

It’s probably been the weirdest year yet for us.

It’s never been harder to make a quid, prices have gone up and up and up and were having to command more and more. The winners have been the guys selling there machines tbh

We cleared out our well priced stock in a bit of a panic mid last year only for it to cost us more to get back and then work with skinny margins. I don’t mind documenting this. What we have seen now is the real bottom end machines arriving on the market stuff we would l not usually sell but send to euros we’re having to sell on in a way to save fees for us all. Example we currently have a year 1995 Terex roller .

Half of what you find at big auctions are owned by themselves which makes the job worse as there big time players in everybody’s face.

The last month it took a huge dive, the phones were dead. It was strange in the office as I now have a good young guy working for us since last year and somehow the day to day stuff keeps him busy. That disappeared almost overnight and then the workshop lads start to run out of things to do. I presume it’s just a small blip but I do think we are running hot ( uk economy). Suddenly there’s a bit more choice and prices are just about slowing up which isn’t handy as I have a handful of machines on big money small margin.

We had a beauty of a 3cx in the last week. 2018 230 hours from new. Some social media posts told themselves and others our price was to expensive
… so i always like to let them know when it’s sold only a week later…..

One thing for sure is export is dead. We’re lucky to see a couple of lorrys a month now compared to what felt like daily before. Brexit, prices, and covid I’m sure

That said we had a nice hamm roller leave us this week to go abroad. Had to plan ahead of the lorry as the ramp isn’t the greatest for rollers . The idea is to support and drag it up to the top . Then wait for the lorry to arrive.

The new extended yard is such a game changer for us . It’s hard to show but we have a lot more working area and when things pickup a better yard all round

And check out how straght this thwaites 2 tonne is from 2003. Incredible

 

[Hg2702]

That dumper

 

[Regy53]

It’s insane . Apart from the bottom of the bonnet rusting

We often get machines in the yard and I say this would be a handy yard machine. We kept a Terex pt6000 Terex from last year for this. It even went out on hire for a few weeks. The Terex is a 05 with 5000 hours but you wouldn’t know it at all. It’s never even seen a battery charger. I might switch it for this thwaites as it’s a handy size

 

[Hg2702]

Perfect size to go with the cat 302 wouldn’t fell like it’s taking an age to load also you be able to keep up with it the other end spreading stone but to big for my trailer.

 

[Jimoz]

Are all your guys cards in @Regy53 ? Do you feel the pressure to keep buying stock just to buy work for the lads as such? I suppose furlough could be used if you equate this craziness to the whole covid thing

 

[Regy53]

Are all your guys cards in @Regy53 ? Do you feel the pressure to keep buying stock just to buy work for the lads as such? I suppose furlough could be used if you equate this craziness to the whole covid thing

Yes I look after the lads, I could never lay them of etc and tbh we have plenty of yard stuff to do so its all good.

We do have to buy stock to keep busy, in some ways if i didn't have the stock then we wouldn't have the yard and i wouldn't have the lads, so you have to keep the show on the road. We have bought reactively a few times this year and it kinda works out. Some times its to keep busy but also if we can make £500 then its £500 even if the risk was £15k outlay
The thing is whenever we run low on stock and reactively buy usually a few weeks later we are offered something else and it would have all been fine. The other thing is momentum. If you lose momentum it can take a month to get it back, that's sales, px, stock in and stock out. As soon as stock in slows momentum dies and then you need to plan ahead aggressively. Its a wicked industry and I wouldn't change it or want to do anything different, I have been in sales all my life but the message " whats your best price" I am so F**ked of with now. Have people calling up for a machine up for £22k offering £16k it gets on my wick and my patience runs thin. I dont know if people think they are doing us a favor by asking this.
Its why when customers are px'ing or calling us to buy something I ask how much they want because they are never to cheap its so we can do our best to work towards whatever it is. Then we know were on the right playing field. If in my head i have 20k and they say 21 then we are close. I might do the grand to get the deal. If they say i dont know make a offer then you say 20k and they dont reply or say il let you know. You then find out they sold it for 21k and you ask why, they say you didn't offer enough. Its really tricky and I just wish people were more open they all know what they want usually

I'm of ranting away now

yes we buy stock to keep busy

 

[Jimoz]

Cheers always interesting to hear. I got into house building as I always liked the fact you could wrap it all up inbetween projects and not have any commitments. Although I'm getting caned by inflation while sitting it out atm! These big builders have it sussed. On a site atm where they've been going over 2 years and prob 2 years more. Must be a hundred guys there daily. The actual developers have 6 staff on site. 2 agents, 2 labourers and 2 forkies. Can't fault them! Everything is subbed. Literally anything goes wrong it always seems to be subbies problem.

 

[Steve]

I admire anyone making a living from sales, this is reinforced every time I try selling privately & having to deal with the what’s the lowest you will take & will you take some completely random p/exchange

 

[DaveDCB]

Cheers always interesting to hear. I got into house building as I always liked the fact you could wrap it all up inbetween projects and not have any commitments. Although I'm getting caned by inflation while sitting it out atm! These big builders have it sussed. On a site atm where they've been going over 2 years and prob 2 years more. Must be a hundred guys there daily. The actual developers have 6 staff on site. 2 agents, 2 labourers and 2 forkies. Can't fault them! Everything is subbed. Literally anything goes wrong it always seems to be subbies problem.

We have just sale agreed our latest build, in no rush to buy the next one, hopefully we are timing it right by selling high and waiting it out for prices to drop…(housing market will get messy at somepoint I’m sure!!) plenty of jobs to do on the farm side of things over the next 6 months so im not fussed about jumping straight back into another big project!

 

[DaveDCB]

I think most people just want to be told a price and work from that, it’s hard to know exactly what your kit is worth as a px when the only prices you can go off are retail pricing on Mascus.. so obviously most people are going to use retail price as a guide and then be disappointed when told it’s 25% less or whatever it comes out at!

 

[Furniss]

Yes I look after the lads, I could never lay them of etc and tbh we have plenty of yard stuff to do so its all good.

We do have to buy stock to keep busy, in some ways if i didn't have the stock then we wouldn't have the yard and i wouldn't have the lads, so you have to keep the show on the road. We have bought reactively a few times this year and it kinda works out. Some times its to keep busy but also if we can make £500 then its £500 even if the risk was £15k outlay
The thing is whenever we run low on stock and reactively buy usually a few weeks later we are offered something else and it would have all been fine. The other thing is momentum. If you lose momentum it can take a month to get it back, that's sales, px, stock in and stock out. As soon as stock in slows momentum dies and then you need to plan ahead aggressively. Its a wicked industry and I wouldn't change it or want to do anything different, I have been in sales all my life but the message " whats your best price" I am so F**ked of with now. Have people calling up for a machine up for £22k offering £16k it gets on my wick and my patience runs thin. I dont know if people think they are doing us a favor by asking this.
Its why when customers are px'ing or calling us to buy something I ask how much they want because they are never to cheap its so we can do our best to work towards whatever it is. Then we know were on the right playing field. If in my head i have 20k and they say 21 then we are close. I might do the grand to get the deal. If they say i dont know make a offer then you say 20k and they dont reply or say il let you know. You then find out they sold it for 21k and you ask why, they say you didn't offer enough. Its really tricky and I just wish people were more open they all know what they want usually

I'm of ranting away now

yes we buy stock to keep busy

Lots of dickheads about Ross ..... dont envy you dealing with them day in day but you seem to be doing well and I found dealing with you nice and straightforward .... when there was a good margin between uk/france (pre brexit obviously) I bought and sold quite a lot of machines and found describing them correctly warts and all was the key to a hassle free sale ... more often than not the customer was knocked off balance and left them with little leverage.
But youve forgotten more than I know about sales I guess.
Crack on.

 

[Jimoz]

We have just sale agreed our latest build, in no rush to buy the next one, hopefully we are timing it right by selling high and waiting it out for prices to drop…(housing market will get messy at somepoint I’m sure!!) plenty of jobs to do on the farm side of things over the next 6 months so im not fussed about jumping straight back into another big project!

You get itchy fingers it's hard. I cashed out last August everything has gone up 10% since then so your money is effectively worth a lot less. What will you do if in a year's time prices are 10% higher?
I'm looking for something little trying to find house with potential plot on the side. At least if you can win a plot out of it should cover any correction.
Bring back the 2010s when you could buy plots that worked to the rule of thirds! Maybe a bit better if you got your hands dirty.

Check out this joke over 2k per m2 for the land in an area that maybe achieves 3.5 to 4k per m2 If you're lucky!
I found this property on the Rightmove Android app and wanted you to see it: https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/110178086

 

[Regy53]

And just like that the dumper sold in 17 hours, it’s not all bad

 

[V8Druid]

....... a 3cx in the last week. 2018 230 hours from new. Some social media posts told themselves and others our price was to expensive
… so i always like to let them know when it’s sold only a week later….......... And check out how straight this thwaites 2 tonne is from 2003. Incredible

know what you mean - 2 days for jake and a queue in reserve ... ton short of asking

that dumper is remarkable ... pity 'bout the bonnet edge

 

[craig]

And just like that the dumper sold in 17 hours, it’s not all bad

I was looking at that on ebay last night, it was a good price compared to others on there, I`m not surprised its sold.
Ah well it we save me making a call next week

 

[pettsy]

I was looking at that on ebay last night, it was a good price compared to others on there, I`m not surprised its sold.
Ah well it we save me making a call next week

Same here, when I read the post this morning I was very tempted then seen it sold

 

[Regy53]

Generally means it was to cheap, but we cant get to greedy its nearly 20 years old. Just a random rare size. I mean i could of put it up for 4k etc but it gets a bit silly surely