Avant / Multione Wheeled Loaders

[Russell]

I forget exactly what they were but I think
Avant 730 was £27k+
Ditch witch sk1550 £36k+
Cormidi cmf 1500 £32k+
You recon 20 hp will be enough? If I got one I would want the ability to run a flail if needed. They look a bit feeble on YouTube.
Also I was told the max quoted lifting power was at the attachment plate hence I was looking at the Avant 700 range.
I've no direct experience as you can't hire them over here but I needed one to shift a stump the other day.

 

[rossandson]

Yeah but not really the spec I'd want, plus expensive.

When you say not the spec, what are you after in particular?

 

[doobin]

Flow

When you say not the spec, what are you after in particular?

Aux flow. The multi one 5 and 6 both have large engines downrated, and can put out 50l/min aux flow.

 

[Lancs Lad]

Anyone used one with flail? How do they cope?

 

[GazCro]

Anyone used one with flail? How do they cope?

It'll depend on how travel affects aux flow like with anything.

 

[rossandson]

Anyone used one with flail? How do they cope?

If you want to use a flail well, ideally you need a nice 80L tank - Avant 755.

 

[Furniss]

Yeah but not really the spec I'd want, plus expensive.

Yeah but at 0%

 

[Russell]

Did they give rated lifting capacity as in all the way up apposed to tipping capacity?
I've seen some say Max tipping is x kg and lifting capacity is 50% of x kg

 

[doobin]

It'll depend on how travel affects aux flow like with anything.

If you want to use a flail well, ideally you need a nice 80L tank - Avant 755.

Apparently the multi ones have piston pumps for the wheels and gear pumps for the aux. So the piston pumps will be drawing a tiny amount of hp as you creep along, but the gear pump can still deliver 50l/min for the flail.

 

[Lancs Lad]

Apparently the multi ones have piston pumps for the wheels and gear pumps for the aux. So the piston pumps will be drawing a tiny amount of hp as you creep along, but the gear pump can still deliver 50l/min for the flail.

Now that sounds nice, was pondering it last weekend Doing my neck in trying to keep an eye on the 5ft behind Kubota , thought how nice it be to have it out front .

 

[Smiffy]

Now that sounds nice, was pondering it last weekend Doing my neck in trying to keep an eye on the 5ft behind Kubota , thought how nice it be to have it out front .

If you just want to see what you are doing better something like this may be a cheaper option and you then still have a tractor for tractoring obviously no good for lifting stuff but superior for flailing

https://www.tractorpool.co.uk/details/Narrow-track-tractors-compact-tractors/Carraro-Tigretrac-3800-HST/6118516/

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[Smiffy]

If you just want to see what you are doing better something like this may be a cheaper option and you then still have a tractor for tractoring obviously no good for lifting stuff but superior for flailing

https://www.tractorpool.co.uk/details/Narrow-track-tractors-compact-tractors/Carraro-Tigretrac-3800-HST/6118516/

Antonio Carraro TTR 4400 Reverse Drive Tractor • Kirkland UK

This Antonio Carraro TTR 4400 Reverse Drive Tractor comes with 38hp Yanmar Engine, 29×12.50-15 Terra Tyres, Hydrostatic Transmission, 1275kg Service Weight, 1375mm Width. Click here for more information. SOLD

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Here's a better example

https://www.kilworthmachinery.co.uk/product/bcs-valiant-500-rs-reversible-tractor/

 

[GazCro]

Now that sounds nice, was pondering it last weekend Doing my neck in trying to keep an eye on the 5ft behind Kubota , thought how nice it be to have it out front .

Don't know what size ur kub is but I'm assuming the flail will be pto driven. It'll likely be far superior to to hyd flail on a loader so you may be disappointed

 

[V8Druid]

If you just want to see what you are doing better something like this may be a cheaper option and you then still have a tractor for tractoring obviously no good for lifting stuff but superior for flailing

https://www.tractorpool.co.uk/details/Narrow-track-tractors-compact-tractors/Carraro-Tigretrac-3800-HST/6118516/

Antonio Carraro TTR 4400 Reverse Drive Tractor • Kirkland UK

This Antonio Carraro TTR 4400 Reverse Drive Tractor comes with 38hp Yanmar Engine, 29×12.50-15 Terra Tyres, Hydrostatic Transmission, 1275kg Service Weight, 1375mm Width. Click here for more information. SOLD

kirklanduk.com

but ain't they ever a price

 

[V8Druid]

Here's a better example

https://www.kilworthmachinery.co.uk/product/bcs-valiant-500-rs-reversible-tractor/

better price than I was expecting on that

 

[Smiffy]

but ain't they ever a price

The one I posted above at 10k albeit sold now would seem better value for money than an avant if it's to spend it's life on a flail
And they would go places an avant wouldn't dream of.
There was a bloke on arbtalk that had a loader fitted to one which obviously won't touch an avant for lift power but then had three point link forklift mast on it as well
So could use the loader for speed
Swing the seat round and use it as a forklift to pick up over a tonne

 

[Lancs Lad]

If you just want to see what you are doing better something like this may be a cheaper option and you then still have a tractor for tractoring obviously no good for lifting stuff but superior for flailing

https://www.tractorpool.co.uk/details/Narrow-track-tractors-compact-tractors/Carraro-Tigretrac-3800-HST/6118516/

Antonio Carraro TTR 4400 Reverse Drive Tractor • Kirkland UK

This Antonio Carraro TTR 4400 Reverse Drive Tractor comes with 38hp Yanmar Engine, 29×12.50-15 Terra Tyres, Hydrostatic Transmission, 1275kg Service Weight, 1375mm Width. Click here for more information. SOLD

kirklanduk.com

Yeah often pondered alpine trac... But really want front loader.

 

[Lancs Lad]

Don't know what size ur kub is but I'm assuming the flail will be pto driven. It'll likely be far superior to to hyd flail on a loader so you may be disappointed

25hp atm from a mate but on the hunt for own.
But it's surprisingly good for its size. New one so full of interlocks tho
Like everything there's some serious over priced crap out there.

 

[Russell]

Has anyone used one of these?
It certainly looks nice and compact for easy storage.

https://www.hinowauk.com/product/hinowa-tp1800/

 

[Lancs Lad]

Has anyone used one of these?
It certainly looks nice and compact for easy storage.

https://www.hinowauk.com/product/hinowa-tp1800/

That could be very handy on certain jobs...bit like @JD450A s.