Kubota kx 61-3. Buckets

diggerjones

diggerjones

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I've just bought said machine. The buckets are a bit knackered, plus no quickhitch. I'm going to get a Harford pro lock hitch. Also after a bigger digging bucket. Bigger than a 2' . Whats a good size bucket 750mm?
Cheers Dylan
 
Randla

Randla

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I've just bought said machine. The buckets are a bit knackered, plus no quickhitch. I'm going to get a Harford pro lock hitch. Also after a bigger digging bucket. Bigger than a 2' . Whats a good size bucket 750mm?
Cheers Dylan
Why not go for an S type, Dylan?
 
JerryRtilt

JerryRtilt

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Why not go for an S type, Dylan?
Having used Scandi style S type buckets with a tilty on my Volvo for a couple of years now i've thought if i ever changed another machine without a tilty i'd have S type hitch and buckets, may be a bit more money but the hitches are a lower profile and the buckets just work better. When i look at the traditional style buckets i have for the Takeuchi they just look so wrong. Why anyone converts traditional style buckets to use with a tilty, other than a ditcher maybe, i never understand.
 
doobin

doobin

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I need to get a 750, the 600's I have are not enough in lighter soils really.

If I was starting from scratch I'd definately take the chance to go S-type. I always feel bad every time I buy a new bucket, but with more than thirty buckets and attachments it's a lot of work to change, plus the cost of three new hitches, two hydraulic.

If you are staying standard, then the ProLock is the best manual hitch money can buy for a small machine IMHO. I'd have a look around for a decent s/h bucket set, and then get them to make the hitch to suit. All my buckets for three machines from 1.2 to 2.7t are Komatsu PC14 size as it's what I bought a set with for my old Schaeff.

Plus if things go well you may end up moving the machine on sooner than you think, so it can go with the most worn bucket and you add different sizes to your collection when you spec teh three new buckets with a new machine and mix/match hitch. That's what I've always done.
 
GazCro

GazCro

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If he's after a set of buckets and hitch of reasonable qualty at reasonable cost and doesn't envisage putting a tilty on than set of harford buckets would be spot on imho. It's ok saying go s type but it's more cost for no benefit if you've no tilty or future plans for one.
 
Randla

Randla

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If he's after a set of buckets and hitch of reasonable qualty at reasonable cost and doesn't envisage putting a tilty on than set of harford buckets would be spot on imho. It's ok saying go s type but it's more cost for no benefit if you've no tilty or future plans for one.
With respect, it's not about making the digger tilty-ready. The S type is a lower profile hitch which means that you are going to get more breakout force than you would with a conventional pin-grab type hitch which is around twice the height. As others have said, Scandi-style buckets are generally acknowledged to be better digging buckets for reasons that have been aired on this forum and the CEF before it. I'm not promoting any particular brand, just making a case for the concept :)
 
CPS

CPS

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A 750mm Hurricane bucket on S30 supplied to a forum member this week, (hope it has got there by now)
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Gunners

Gunners

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I've gone S type on my 18z and its quite expensive to do so. I got them from Engcon as I really rate the quality and light weight of their buckets. Paid the following all plus vat;
S30 Manual hitch c/w lifting hook £1200
GB01 800mm grader £350
600mm Digging c/w teeth £450
450mm Digging no teeth £300
240mm cable bucket £240

The idea is to be able to share attachments between the 8026 and the 18z, whilst each machine has its own dedicated bucket range (the 18z's being smaller for obvious reasons) But for £2500 I could have bought standard buckets twice over, so I don't blame anyone for sticking with traditional buckets, especially if they haven't already got S type in their fleet.
 
Hg2702

Hg2702

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I've gone S type on my 18z and its quite expensive to do so. I got them from Engcon as I really rate the quality and light weight of their buckets. Paid the following all plus vat;
S30 Manual hitch c/w lifting hook £1200
GB01 800mm grader £350
600mm Digging c/w teeth £450
450mm Digging no teeth £300
240mm cable bucket £240

The idea is to be able to share attachments between the 8026 and the 18z, whilst each machine has its own dedicated bucket range (the 18z's being smaller for obvious reasons) But for £2500 I could have bought standard buckets twice over, so I don't blame anyone for sticking with traditional buckets, especially if they haven't already got S type in their fleet.
That must of spun the salesmen out !
 
JerryRtilt

JerryRtilt

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I've gone S type on my 18z and its quite expensive to do so. I got them from Engcon as I really rate the quality and light weight of their buckets. Paid the following all plus vat;
S30 Manual hitch c/w lifting hook £1200
GB01 800mm grader £350
600mm Digging c/w teeth £450
450mm Digging no teeth £300
240mm cable bucket £240

The idea is to be able to share attachments between the 8026 and the 18z, whilst each machine has its own dedicated bucket range (the 18z's being smaller for obvious reasons) But for £2500 I could have bought standard buckets twice over, so I don't blame anyone for sticking with traditional buckets, especially if they haven't already got S type in their fleet.
Admittedly thats a lot of money but i bet they will outlast whatever JCB would have supplied and be nicer to use(y)
 
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Smiffy

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I need to get a 750, the 600's I have are not enough in lighter soils really.

750 are great in light soil until you try a 900 💪

In light soil just loading material you can get a serious amount moved with a 2.5 machine
Rarely used for digging but if the machine regularly loads dumpers from a stockpile it's definitely worth having one.
 
T whiting

T whiting

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If it's for a older machine that's never going to see a tilty I'd put a Strickland s lock on it mine wasn't hard to fit. I'd then go to euros and buy some tidy buckets for it it's worth having a look though to separate the wheat from the chaff
 
GazCro

GazCro

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That’s not terrible prices for decent buckets.
I'm surprised the grader wasn't the dearest tbh. Those prices make me feel a lot better about what i paid for my 8 tonner buckets mind.
 
Gunners

Gunners

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I'm surprised the grader wasn't the dearest tbh. Those prices make me feel a lot better about what i paid for my 8 tonner buckets mind.
I think its the CAT teeth that add cost on the digging buckets. Its the hitch that bumps the price up really. JCB's spring hitch was £500 - the S30 one is over double that. But as nice as the JCB hitch is for a pin grabber - the S type hitches have ZERO play in them and are really low build as we all know. The cost of this investment is also offset by not having to buy another ripper, rake bucket, top hat for breaker etc so there's savings that aren't directly shown here.
And I can sell all my old buckets and attachments to offset it too.
 
GazCro

GazCro

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I think its the CAT teeth that add cost on the digging buckets. Its the hitch that bumps the price up really. JCB's spring hitch was £500 - the S30 one is over double that. But as nice as the JCB hitch is for a pin grabber - the S type hitches have ZERO play in them and are really low build as we all know. The cost of this investment is also offset by not having to buy another ripper, rake bucket, top hat for breaker etc so there's savings that aren't directly shown here.
And I can sell all my old buckets and attachments to offset it too.
There's no question about the hitch quality difference at all, but it's at a cost which is probably harder to justify on smaller machines. Fair enough if you're sharing between machines although personally i try and avoid sharing between different sizes as all you end up doing is either using something that's too big or too small for the machine it's on.
 
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