White derv only for construction from April 2022

V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
There’s no issues with mixing the GTL as far as I know. We were advised that I keeps better and is better for more modern engines, burns cleaner etc. I was considering starting to use a fuel additive, like a Stanadyne or similar, but was told there was no need with this GTL

We’re we simply sold a line? For a few pence more? Not sure, but we’ve experienced no performance issues and had no problems with it at all.
it's the FAME in the blend that allows the diesel bug to thrive .... pure red just doesn't get the issues. So the GTL looks like it'll perform the same, from what I've read so far ..... this and the HVO sound like a possible alternative .. other than the cost issues perhaps :unsure: .... but small in comparison to the issues caused by crap bio diesel???
 
Vinpetrol

Vinpetrol

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it's the FAME in the blend that allows the diesel bug to thrive .... pure red just doesn't get the issues. So the GTL looks like it'll perform the same, from what I've read so far ..... this and the HVO sound like a possible alternative .. other than the cost issues perhaps :unsure: .... but small in comparison to the issues caused by crap bio diesel???
At the risk of an opportunity for Rory ,
What’s Fame ?
 
GazCro

GazCro

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it's the FAME in the blend that allows the diesel bug to thrive .... pure red just doesn't get the issues. So the GTL looks like it'll perform the same, from what I've read so far ..... this and the HVO sound like a possible alternative .. other than the cost issues perhaps :unsure: .... but small in comparison to the issues caused by crap bio diesel???
As my supplier told me those ringing round for the cheapest red will most likely end up with poor quality imported fuel. He resisted fame content for as long as poss but i get additive in mine and have had zero issues. Additive works out at 1p a litre so as far as I'm concerned it's a no brainer.
 
hiluxman

hiluxman

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Fuel theft from site is bad enough as it is yet alone when tanks are full of white!!
The government won't care as they have already had the full tax on it upfront so they are technically better off if more is pinched over the red version
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
As my supplier told me those ringing round for the cheapest red will most likely end up with poor quality imported fuel. He resisted fame content for as long as poss but i get additive in mine and have had zero issues. Additive works out at 1p a litre so as far as I'm concerned it's a no brainer.
ABSOLUTELY (y):cool:........so WTF do they not just put it in as a matter of course in production/distribution FFS??:mad::mad:
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
The government won't care as they have already had the full tax on it upfront so they are technically better off if more is pinched over the red version
will become virtually impossible to keep fuel in bulk ..... without 24hr security equipped with uzis
 
GazCro

GazCro

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ABSOLUTELY (y):cool:........so WTF do they not just put it in as a matter of course in production/distribution FFS??:mad::mad:
I think the theory is that they leave it to the customer to decide so as not to lose out to the 'save 0.1p a litre man'.
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
I think the theory is that they leave it to the customer to decide so as not to lose out to the 'save 0.1p a litre man'.
but if it was in every litre it wouldn't be a choice for Ebenezer Scrooge or Joe Skinflint :rolleyes:
Know what you're saying though .... there'll always be the ones who'll spend a quid driving the extra, to save 20p
 
GazCro

GazCro

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but if it was in every litre it wouldn't be a choice for Ebenezer Scrooge or Joe Skinflint :rolleyes:
Know what you're saying though .... there'll always be the ones who'll spend a quid driving the extra, to save 20p
I was putting a water supply in for a farmer a few year back and at bait time he would ring up to order fuel. He didn't use his usual supplier as when he rang round someone else was peanuts per litre less. I worked out on the quantity he ordered it saved him about £1.50 🤣🤣
I didn't dare tell him I'd just paid 8p per litre less than him week before.
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
I was putting a water supply in for a farmer a few year back and at bait time he would ring up to order fuel. He didn't use his usual supplier as when he rang round someone else was peanuts per litre less. I worked out on the quantity he ordered it saved him about £1.50 🤣🤣
I didn't dare tell him I'd just paid 8p per litre less than him week before.
he'd have had to have it ...... with a 50% exaggeration factor, .. just to wind him up even further :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
pettsy

pettsy

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I was putting a water supply in for a farmer a few year back and at bait time he would ring up to order fuel. He didn't use his usual supplier as when he rang round someone else was peanuts per litre less. I worked out on the quantity he ordered it saved him about £1.50 🤣🤣
I didn't dare tell him I'd just paid 8p per litre less than him week before.


And when he’s running low and needs a swift refill, his usual supplier will be “ too busy” as he’s burnt that support for a pence saving!
 
doobin

doobin

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No grace period to use stocks either. That **** Rishi needs cash faaaast.

I would say not much point in stockpiling, but how will they police it?


Oh, f**k me. Just read that article properly, more exemptions have been added.

Travelling funfairs-- so the pikeys can still use it? WTF???:mad::mad:
Golf courses- can't have the price of an MP's afternoon go up can we?
 
Shovelhands

Shovelhands

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No grace period to use stocks either. That **** Rishi needs cash faaaast.

I would say not much point in stockpiling, but how will they police it?

They’ve got to catch you first
Stockpiling will happen 100%
 
doobin

doobin

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Glad I own a farm 😇
All very well saying that, but most of us can still get hold of the red I'd think. It's if they catch you on site- and it then becomes the same issue we have with tractors and dump trailers hauling illegally. Do you risk it and make money, or do you do it by the book and loose jobs/make less profit than the ones running illegally?
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
No grace period to use stocks either. That **** Rishi needs cash faaaast.

I would say not much point in stockpiling, but how will they police it?


Oh, f**k me. Just read that article properly, more exemptions have been added.

Travelling funfairs-- so the pikeys can still use it? WTF???:mad::mad:
Golf courses- can't have the price of an MP's afternoon go up can we?
a bloody farce .. article also makes it sound as though red is subsidised :mad::mad:

" Users of off-highway machinery currently pay just fuel duty of just 11.14p per litre. Their state-subsidised diesel is dyed red to distinguish it from the regular diesel on which road users pay duty of nearly 58p per litre (on top of the retail price)."

which we all know it ain't .... just pay less duty as it ain't subject to VED, as not used on road:mad::mad:
never seen such a badly written article in TCI:(:mad:

Pikies're pikies Doob :mad: ... travelling showmen are a different breed:rolleyes:
 
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