Doesn't help with the towing debate

[CPS]

Just seen this on Facebook, M6 apparently

 

[Richard Hunton]

Tri axle and by the looks of it the digger couldn't have been any further back if it was on the roof of the car behind.

When will these people learn

 

[JD450A]

That is some loading..... too much wag, not enough Drag.

 

[GazCro]

Same old thing buy a tri axle so you can load it like a c u next tuesday. Hopefully they learned something today.

 

[Lancs Lad]

It stayed connected tho...more than we can say for his machine..is that tow tug what I think it is??
Wonder when it was ? I've done most of Cumbria's m6 today and it was nice weather

 

[fred]

feel sorry for the digger, at least with a caravan you can point and laugh.

 

[Cheneyjawa]

Two things stand out here for me, 1- the ROPS has stood up well, 2- Bloody handy for an undercarriage inspection....

 

[T whiting]

The real question is who did he borrow the trailer off no way it's his loading it so badly and having such a small yow vehicle

 

[hiluxman]

Just realised its a 2.5tonner not a 1.5

 

[craig]

What do we think the tow vehicle is?
My first thought was a SsangYong of some description

 

[Monkeybusiness]

What do we think the tow vehicle is?
My first thought was a SsangYong of some description

I think you are right, or a Rexton (think they are the same thing maybe). I think some of those can possibly tow 3.5 tonnes so (other than terrible load distribution) it might not be as ridiculous as it appears.

 

[hiluxman]

I was thinking ssangyong rexton too.

 

[Justme]

Very obviously loaded to far back.

 

[Lancs Lad]

Showed it some young lads ..who all recently passed their trailer test...I said to far back ...they said doesn't matter ..it's just that the nose weight needs to be right.?? Didnt want to hear...so watch out for more of this.

 

[GazCro]

Showed it some young lads ..who all recently passed their trailer test...I said to far back ...they said doesn't matter ..it's just that the nose weight needs to be right.?? Didnt want to hear...so watch out for more of this.

Well they ain't wrong technically. How far back or forward you put it on the trailer will determine the noise weight. Thing people ignore is ball height on the towing vehicle a tri axle trailer especially will want to sit level, so even if nose weight was ok it could have still been trying to lift towing vehicle if ball was too low. Considering all the regs we have re vehicles in this country its amazing there's nothing covers tow ball height.

 

[pettsy]

Considering all the regs we have re vehicles in this country its amazing there's nothing covers tow ball height.

Trouble is, how do you account for loaded/unloaded vehicle? My Discovery4 on air will self level regardless of trailer noseweight, but put a transit tipper in its place and there’s a big difference loaded to empty!

 

[GazCro]

Trouble is, how do you account for loaded/unloaded vehicle? My Discovery4 on air will self level regardless of trailer noseweight, but put a transit tipper in its place and there’s a big difference loaded to empty!

But that's the thing there's so many variables, every vehicle has a slightly different ball height, trailers all vary. Down to experience at the end of the day cos the trailer test teaches you v little about it tbh. I have 3 ifor trailers, 12ft dropside, gh94 and a car trailer. Every one has a slightly different hitch height so I've had to pick a compromised ball height to suit all 3 as best i can. Noseweight should be minimal anyway tbh 50 to 100kg

 

[pettsy]

I agree, I’ve done my trailer test and it’s pretty vague about real life situations. Air susp obviously masks being heavy on noseweight.

 

[Lancs Lad]

That's my point...it's experience and knowledge not just one rule in my experience

 

[Brendan]

Well they ain't wrong technically. How far back or forward you put it on the trailer will determine the noise weight. Thing people ignore is ball height on the towing vehicle a tri axle trailer especially will want to sit level, so even if nose weight was ok it could have still been trying to lift towing vehicle if ball was too low. Considering all the regs we have re vehicles in this country its amazing there's nothing covers tow ball height.

There is for trailers and cars........



but pickups and I'm sure landrovers are exempt from the heights