Benford Terex TV1200 Roller problem.

[CPS]

Your roller bearings will be your swashplate bearings, if caught in time the pump should be ok... you won't know till its stripped down.

 

[Shovelhands]

Just to button this one up. Pump came out several weeks ago. Tank off, clean out, new filter etc.
I sent the pump away for an overhaul.

They confirmed the suspicions that the bearings had collapsed in the swash plate, you nailed it @CPS
Anyhow, it returned the other day, after parting with a large sum of hard earned money , bitter pill to swallow but it’s no bloody good to anyone busted, chalk it down to experience and it’s just one of those things.
And I got her up and running again this morning

 

[Routy56]

Just to button this one up. Pump came out several weeks ago. Tank off, clean out, new filter etc.
I sent the pump away for an overhaul.View attachment 14054
They confirmed the suspicions that the bearings had collapsed in the swash plate, you nailed it @CPS
Anyhow, it returned the other day, after parting with a large sum of hard earned money , bitter pill to swallow but it’s no bloody good to anyone busted, chalk it down to experience and it’s just one of those things.
And I got her up and running again this morning View attachment 14052View attachment 14053

Well done - they are a great tool if you have the work. It will soon pay for the repairs
We had a TV800 for a few years. Loved it but didn’t really have enough work. Wish we’d kept it now

 

[Zetor Ad]

Hi everyone, would anyone have an idea why my brakes randomly stick on on my mid 90’ 120 benford, if I bring the lever into neutral and work it back/forward a couple of times they release and it’s fine.
Any ideas would be appreciated

 

[Quattromike]

Cannot believe we've been messing about with this roller problem for 8 year
Anyhoo still the same, but worse than ever, haven't had her running in a year but need to do something with it. Starts runs, but down on power and a bit of a job to keep itt going. I've priced a replacement motor at £4.2k which is more than the machine is worth. I'm thinking of getting into the guts of the engine and possibly doing a bit of work to get it running enough to to a bit of work or move it on. It's that or scrap it and scrap is worth SFA ATM. Anyone done work on the oil cooled deutz engines before, are the parts easy enough to source? I see spares do quite a bit of engine spares for this.

 

[GazCro]

Cannot believe we've been messing about with this roller problem for 8 year
Anyhoo still the same, but worse than ever, haven't had her running in a year but need to do something with it. Starts runs, but down on power and a bit of a job to keep itt going. I've priced a replacement motor at £4.2k which is more than the machine is worth. I'm thinking of getting into the guts of the engine and possibly doing a bit of work to get it running enough to to a bit of work or move it on. It's that or scrap it and scrap is worth SFA ATM. Anyone done work on the oil cooled deutz engines before, are the parts easy enough to source? I see spares do quite a bit of engine spares for this.

Any smoke?

 

[Quattromike]

Any smoke?

Nothing but thick black smoke . Used to be on start up so was thinking it was valve stem seals but now just smoke all the time and struggling to get to full running speed.

 

[V8Druid]

Nothing but thick black smoke . Used to be on start up so was thinking it was valve stem seals but now just smoke all the time and struggling to get to full running speed.

pump or injectors .... maybe cold start stuck in ?? over fueling by the sounds of it
oil smoke would be blue .. as a rule

what's the oil like in the sump ? level and consistency? any fuel in the sump oil?

 

[Quattromike]

I haven't pulled the dip stick actually, IL check that out tomorrow I think, I just watched a YouTube of a deutz engine that was smoking, they took the cylinder head off and half of one of the valves was missing

 

[GazCro]

Compression test it if it's not too awkward to do. Pumps give s lot of bother on older engines since they took the sulphur out of the diesel as it was the lube. Could be a fueling issue that's got to the point you got a lot of carbon build up in the head.

 

[Diggerdavey]

Have you checked to see if the air filter is choked? Black smoke would normally indicate too much fuel or insufficient burnable air

 

[Jimbo69]

Best thing to do @Quattromike is just give it to me to dispose of. Obviously I won’t charge you

 

[V8Druid]

Best thing to do @Quattromike is just give it to me to dispose of. Obviously I won’t charge you

...... It's that or scrap it and scrap is worth SFA ATM.

if you do get to this stage .....I've been after a scrapper for ages ... but really can't see it coming to that

 

[Quattromike]

I see the vultures are circulating this one I nursed this thing along for the last 8year I’m sure I can get a bit more out of it
plus all the talk off planings on the other thread is giving me itchy feet

 

[CPS]

Cannot believe we've been messing about with this roller problem for 8 year
Anyhoo still the same, but worse than ever, haven't had her running in a year but need to do something with it. Starts runs, but down on power and a bit of a job to keep itt going. I've priced a replacement motor at £4.2k which is more than the machine is worth. I'm thinking of getting into the guts of the engine and possibly doing a bit of work to get it running enough to to a bit of work or move it on. It's that or scrap it and scrap is worth SFA ATM. Anyone done work on the oil cooled deutz engines before, are the parts easy enough to source? I see spares do quite a bit of engine spares for this.

I had a Deutz Engine once that had serous smoke/running rough problems. It had the individual fuel pump units. One of the pegs that sits into the fuel rack was broke on and the pump was stuck on full.... causing serious smoke that wouldn't clear.
Just something else to check

 

[Quattromike]

I had a Deutz Engine once that had serous smoke/running rough problems. It had the individual fuel pump units. One of the pegs that sits into the fuel rack was broke on and the pump was stuck on full.... causing serious smoke that wouldn't clear.
Just something else to check

Would that be in here?

 

[CPS]

Would that be in here? View attachment 16124

Yep, in there, get her running and crack of the injector pipe one at a time and see if it makes any difference

 

[Quattromike]

Yep, in there, get her running and crack of the injector pipe one at a time and see if it makes any difference

The little pin next to the injector pipe is that the excess fuel button? The one on the left was stuck in for some reason.

It's freed off now but not sure what it does without opening it up more. I dunno if it's meant to come right through as there is a hole all the way through. I'm not sure what is meant to be holding it in place, you can pull it out now

Never got it tested as also decided the fuel filter was a bit questionable so getting that changed out and gave the tank a drain out. Was a bit of crud in it.

 

[Quattromike]

Put all back together tonight and primed her up got her fired, started up not bad and cleared no bother. Little leaks on the fuel lines sorted out. Running as good as she ever has while I've had it. Still smokes a bit on stars up but runs away not to bad. It's was either the stuck pin thing or bad fuel/leaks. Will do for now. What a beut she is

She's no oil painting but really handy to have around the yard for odds and sods. And yes the whole shed shakes when the vib is one out in the yard

 

[Shovelhands]

Well mine has gone tits up yet again , during one of those days when you wonder if it’s all worth it.

I think the bearings have collapsed in the rear vibe unit. So it looks like I’m going to have to strip the rear roller down. Anyone else had one of these apart?