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Newforester

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the multipurpose trailers are great but nothing beats the right trailer for the job
the herbst dump trailer serves me pretty well, good capacity, tows well and good visibility for getting it in places.
of course when i’ve got big loads to move i break out the te20 and tipping trailer
 

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Monkeybusiness

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This one in grey? Would be ideal as like you said it’s straight on no messing.

Had my eye on the NC equivalent but they are nearly 5k more! Very nice lay made though!


Yeah, that grey one - that’s what I’d go for if buying again. Mine came from Arfon Roberts in North Wales, he was as cheap as anywhere.

Broughan trailers look to be about the best made that I’ve seen, but are strong money in comparison.
 
GazCro

GazCro

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Most trailers are irish made and one thing to be aware of they like using second hand axles and wank brakes. Don't rule out bailey, aw etc (mainland depending where your from) there's nowt in it price wise when you match spec and you've more guarantee what you're getting.
 
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Smiffy

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I’ve never considered its nose-weight as being considerable tbh - it’s nowhere near as heavy on the tractor when fully loaded as some of my linkage-mounted kit.

It's surprising how little the pick up hitch on tractors are actually rated for
Alot of the 150hp tractors are only rated for about 3.5t nose weight from the trailer
I reckon that a lot of ag trailers put more than this on them
I have struggled to pick up loaded grain and bale trailers from major manafacturers with 150hp new Holland's before
Both the tri axles and the twin axle trailers with the axles further forwards are also just a lot nicer to tow they take that bounce away and you just feel more in control of trailer
I have used one converted trailer that had the axles right at the back must have put near 13 tonnes on the tow hitch and it was horrible fighting the trailer the whole time
 
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Monkeybusiness

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It's surprising how little the pick up hitch on tractors are actually rated for
Alot of the 150hp tractors are only rated for about 3.5t nose weight from the trailer
I reckon that a lot of ag trailers put more than this on them
I have struggled to pick up loaded grain and bale trailers from major manafacturers with 150hp new Holland's before
Both the tri axles and the twin axle trailers with the axles further forwards are also just a lot nicer to tow they take that bounce away and you just feel more in control of trailer
I have used one converted trailer that had the axles right at the back must have put near 13 tonnes on the tow hitch and it was horrible fighting the trailer the whole time
I’d much rather have nose weight than something rear-heavy though!... The forwarding trailer can be horrible to tow if there are any really long logs hanging out the back - snakarama!!!
 
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CPS

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Most trailers are irish made and one thing to be aware of they like using second hand axles and wank brakes. Don't rule out bailey, aw etc (mainland depending where your from) there's nowt in it price wise when you match spec and you've more guarantee what you're getting.
None of the mainline Irish manufacturers will be using second hand components at all. Maybe a few fly by night/built in the spare time trailers that show up from time to time, but no way the mainline guys are.
 
GazCro

GazCro

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None of the mainline Irish manufacturers will be using second hand components at all. Maybe a few fly by night/built in the spare time trailers that show up from time to time, but no way the mainline guys are.
Speaking from experience you'd be surprised, especially if you spec commercial axles a few will use recon axles and you only realise when you come to do maintenance. May have changed in the last couple of years.
 
Quattromike

Quattromike

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We have a few round northeast here building trailers. Stewart trailers seems to be a popular choice with the bigger outfits. It was them I got my last agri low loader. There's also Marshall trailers who would be the farmers choice. But also small scale guys like Keith Rose building more bespoke items. They probably won't be able to compete with the Irish guys but you pays your money you takes your choice.
 
GazCro

GazCro

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Don't fall in the trap of thinking you're getting commercial axles if it's got ten stud wheels often just a 10 stud drum over ag spec brakes. End of the day tractor brakes are only for stopping tractor and v expensive to replace, spend the money on the trailer it's cheaper in the long run.
 
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Smiffy

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Speaking from experience you'd be surprised, especially if you spec commercial axles a few will use recon axles and you only realise when you come to do maintenance. May have changed in the last couple of years.


I toasted the brakes on a brand new new Holland t7 in a day (the small chassis new Holland's are well known for having weak back brakes and no wear metal so if they go and you don't notice quick enough the trumpets have to be sent away for re machining )
Boss put a warranty claim in and new Holland said they wanted to inspect the condition of the trailer brakes before paying for the work
So we stripped the drums off and they where fitted with 2.5 inch shoes instead of the proper 10in comercial shoes on a 15tonne grain trailer
Apparently there are 3 options on some Agri trailers 2.5 in 6 in and 10in
And having air brakes or 10 studs doesn't always correspond to what's fitted
 
Bri963

Bri963

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I’ve built and co-built a few trailers over the years, but the best one was one my boss built when I worked on the land. He bought the chassis of an ex-C&G cement mixer that had set solid when the engine blew up. It was on super singles. We boxed (I was 14 and just manhandled bits to be cut or welded) the chassis over the axles to stiffen it, the body was 4 mm plate, 3” channel ribs all along and a bit of 4” box all the way round the top, and sized so a drott could reach over the sides at just under full stretch. The only bit I was never keen on was the tailgate, which for some reason Michael the boss decided to make out of angle iron and plywood. Mind you, the last time I saw it the tailgate was the original, so perhaps he was right and I was wrong.

We fitted hydraulics to the existing brakes, an actuator valve (Ford kit) to the existing pedals on a Ford 7000 and ithe outfit would stop in about three times it’s own length. It wouldn’t have been a cheap trailer to build, even in the 70’s, but it was in regular use for close to 35 years until my old boss sold up. That trailer is probably still in use somewhere. It carried cow, sheep and chicken crap, literally many thousands of tons, over the years, as well as carting in a few thousand tons of limestone and gravel to for all the building projects we did on the farm.

All of which is of no possible help or interest to anyone, but I do like a reminisce.
 
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honey_badger

honey_badger

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I know it doesn't really count as I'm a farmer but we've got a valtra n101 and a herbst 10t multipurpose dump and it tows our jz70 along a treat in there. Only thing to fault with the herbst trailer is the tailgate is a bit funny and has broken off when it got hit by a large rock. Upcoming project fixing that to post ;)
(Yeah I know thats a rental js145 I think but couldn't find any of it with the jz70 in the trailer, I'll keep looking..!)
That valtra has a mean loader on it too.
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DaveDCB

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I know it doesn't really count as I'm a farmer but we've got a valtra n101 and a herbst 10t multipurpose dump and it tows our jz70 along a treat in there. Only thing to fault with the herbst trailer is the tailgate is a bit funny and has broken off when it got hit by a large rock. Upcoming project fixing that to post ;)
(Yeah I know thats a rental js145 I think but couldn't find any of it with the jz70 in the trailer, I'll keep looking..!)
That valtra has a mean loader on it too.
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That’s tidy, would probably do me , reackon you’d get a 6 ton dumper in it?
 
honey_badger

honey_badger

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That’s tidy, would probably do me , reackon you’d get a 6 ton dumper in it?
Not sure I've never driven a dumper or done much work close to them. If you've got a width or anyone knows a width I'm happy to take a measurement. Its quite tight on the blade of the jz70 though. I imagine it'd fit in.
 
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DaveDCB

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Not sure I've never driven a dumper or done much work close to them. If you've got a width or anyone knows a width I'm happy to take a measurement. Its quite tight on the blade of the jz70 though. I imagine it'd fit in.

2.3 m wide
4.4long
Only 4.3 ton so that’s the easy bit

Real nice looking Deere 115 in the next euro auctions, that’d do me fine 😎
 
dod

dod

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Don't look at the strapping. No idea what I was doing that day :unsure: :p Think it was just along tracks

We use a haulage company to shift stuff but sometimes your just a mile along the road or somethings broken down or something needs out one gate of a site and into the other!!!

Was a drag trailer but we changed the hitch and light bulbs and away we go. Lifting axle is handy. was even still tested till end of last year!!
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
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Don't look at the strapping. No idea what I was doing that day :unsure: :p Think it was just along tracks

We use a haulage company to shift stuff but sometimes your just a mile along the road or somethings broken down or something needs out one gate of a site and into the other!!!

Was a drag trailer but we changed the hitch and light bulbs and away we go. Lifting axle is handy. was even still tested till end of last year!!
that explains the long draw bar then
 
honey_badger

honey_badger

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2.3 m wide
4.4long
Only 4.3 ton so that’s the easy bit

Real nice looking Deere 115 in the next euro auctions, that’d do me fine 😎
Measured it today. 2.34 wide, 4.3 something long. Those measurements are on the side of caution though. Can remeasure to greater accuracy if you want. The digger is a proper tight fit, was brought to fit though, and as it does. The dozer blade is proper tight only 10mm each side maybe even less.
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