Gunners
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And I say it again.... Its very hard to tow 3.5t and stay legal.It's a minefield
TiltyShaun
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Iveco With all the buckets in the back. Just make sure you don’t have fuel in the digger or mud on the tracks and if you are stopped you have a 10% allowance on axle weights so you still need to be careful if running at 3500kg that you don’t overload the rear axle of the towing vehicle. Hard yes.....impossible...NO!!!!
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Smiffy
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Depends what age the old ones are 2.7 tare with a 1t+ carrying capacity so must be less than 1.7 tonnes
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Monkeybusiness
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I think it’s just the smallest engined/most basic spec new rangers that are below 2040kg (therefore legally allowed to go the fastest)...
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
assume you mean pick up ..... the original Musso 5 doors were essentially Merc.s in a Ssang Yong 'skin suit' and a lot of engineering for the bucks
SsangYong Musso - Wikipedia
KGM Musso | Overview & Pricing
The KGM Musso is our award-winning 5-seater pick-up. A distinctive, dramatic and purposeful pick-up that is built tough and comprehensively equipped
www.ssangyonggb.co.uk
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Brendan
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Only the entry level XL everything else is over, majority of new pickups are over 2040kg, I think the l200/fullback, dmax and possibly the entry level Navara are under
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
guys ..... refresh my memory as to what the significance of 2040gs is ??? ... IIRC me P38's heavier than that... circa 2.1+t
... IIRC me P38's heavier than that... circa 2.1+t
sandy2210
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under 2040kg is a "car" and the seed limits that go with it over 2040kg is a "commercial" and the reduced speed limits that go with it it only applies to double cab pickups even a single cab pickup is a "commercial"even if under 2040kg so you are safe enough with your p38 at "car" speed limits
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Monkeybusiness
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My Navara Tekna (highest available spec when I bought it) is under but was the last of the new shapes without adblue - I’m not sure if they are slightly heavier/over that weight now or not though.
Grahams
Don't complain - suggest what's better
I'm sure the extra restrictions in Scotland on single carriageway A roads for HGV are killing people. When it first came in I was reading there was a noticable increase in head on collisions with people trying to overtake where they shouldn't or be stuck at 40 for the next x miles. There are lots of windy undulating A roads that are difficult to safely pass on, but safe enough for HGVs to do 50. I think there was talk of reviewing it on the A9 and letting lorries go faster. Last time I went up there it seemed almost every dual bit had road works cutting it back to single, so we crawled along for what seemed a very long time.
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Brendan
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Think my 3.2 auto wildtrack is around 2.3t the 2040kg rule needs updating as most vehicles have got heavier due to to more safety features/crash designs, and not only that but braking and grip wise are a leap ahead from when the rules came out ......
Although haven't the government been trying to end the whole dpv rule.
The sub 3.5t van speed limits tend to be retarded you can have a transit van at 60mph but the tourneo is car limits same as the transporter/caravelle. Then there is the rule for sub 2t gvw car derived vans that are car limits, which the astra van is the largest in the category but again the Corsa van is car limits but the Corsa combovan is van limits
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
THE WHOLE ****ING SYSTEM WANTS A MASSIVE OVERHAUL/RE-WRITE IN THE UK
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Quattromike
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The A9 is 50 for HGV and average speed cameras pretty much from Stirling up past Inverness.
Grahams
Don't complain - suggest what's better
At least they were big enough to realise what they were doing was dangerous. Does make a mockery of enforcing the 40mph limit on other single carriageway A roads though.
Furniss
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V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
12t with a suitable trailer7.5t wagon - 11t Train weight
JD450A
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Not unless plated to suit.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
think most 7.5s are plated to 12 Rory ? .. just pointless really as a suitable trailer'd take up most of the extra capacity in build / tare weight
JD450A
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Nope. most are sat at 11t gross plated
only up to 12 in a full draw bar configuration.Most Merc 817's where plated to 12t from memory tho
Furniss
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I know the op wasnt asking about 7.5t wagons and sure they have their hassles but having run Nissan navara/izuzu trooper/defenders with plant trailers for many years I went 7.5t wagon last november and wouldnt enjoy having to go back to a pickup/trailer setup.
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