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Volbar1

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as far as I know I have to supply my own Yorkie bars🤷‍♂️
Nice truck that! Had a cheesewedge shawtrack body on my 32t, regularly loaded 14t excavators and in 7 years of use no problem at all.
I think someone has turned the ramp rams around as the hyd pipes are sticking out above the floor?
 
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Quattromike

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Nice truck that! Had a cheesewedge shawtrack body on my 32t, regularly loaded 14t excavators and in 7 years of use no problem at all.
I think someone has turned the ramp rams round as the hyd pipes are sticking out above the floor?
Yes we were looking at that. I don't think there's enough space to turn them round, I fear the ports were on the side of the cylinders originally and someone has made replacement cylinders but got the orientation wrong 🤦‍♂️
 
V8Druid

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Yes we were looking at that. I don't think there's enough space to turn them round, I fear the ports were on the side of the cylinders originally and someone has made replacement cylinders but got the orientation wrong 🤦‍♂️
if you have the room beside them ... can you not cut the cylinder lugs off and rotate them 90 deg.s to suit ... easy to do with the cylinders fully extended with out any risk to the seals.
 
Quattromike

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if you have the room beside them ... can you not cut the cylinder lugs off and rotate them 90 deg.s to suit ... easy to do with the cylinders fully extended with out any risk to the seals.
Will need to look into it a bit closer. It’s a solid end cap with the pin hole drilled through. I think it’s either drill another hole through at 90deg which I don’t like as it reduces the surface area quite a bit and allows allot of road crap to get into the pin and accelerate the wear/corrosion. Or cut the end off the cylinder rotate and weld back on.
 
JD450A

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Will need to look into it a bit closer. It’s a solid end cap with the pin hole drilled through. I think it’s either drill another hole through at 90deg which I don’t like as it reduces the surface area quite a bit and allows allot of road crap to get into the pin and accelerate the wear/corrosion. Or cut the end off the cylinder rotate and weld back on.

Weld a Plug of bar in the current hole and redrill. Would take some getting right and be weaker, BUT preferable to ripping fittings off on the job!
 
Shovelhands

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To much heat warps the cylinder and will need boring to get it back to shape

It’s only two ports, and they are right at the end. It would be fine imo.
Get them Tig welded if heat is too much of a concern.
 
Quattromike

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It’s only two ports, and they are right at the end. It would be fine imo.
Get them Tig welded if heat is too much of a concern.
Do you buy ports from a cylinder parts supply company or make up new ones from scratch or try and cut off the old ones and reuse?
 
V8Druid

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Do you buy ports from a cylinder parts supply company or make up new ones from scratch or try and cut off the old ones and reuse?
couple of hyd fittings are as good as anything .... either an M/M adapter, with one M cut off, or a hex plug cap with a hole drilled through it ... more meat in a cap and mig it on .... it's end of the stroke each end and is unlikely to cause any distortional issues ..... have replaced port dozens of times.
Plug the originals with a socket head cap and can use compact elbow fittings on the new ports .... be no taller than a female socket port and a banjo in it ... possibly less
 
Quattromike

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couple of hyd fittings are as good as anything .... either an M/M adapter, with one M cut off, or a hex plug cap with a hole drilled through it ... more meat in a cap and mig it on .... it's end of the stroke each end and is unlikely to cause any distortional issues ..... have replaced port dozens of times.
Plug the originals with a socket head cap and can use compact elbow fittings on the new ports .... be no taller than a female socket port and a banjo in it ... possibly less
Yes but would need to redo all the pipes at the back. It may be easier to just stick on the same ports and re-use the hoses.
 
Shovelhands

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Do you buy ports from a cylinder parts supply company or make up new ones from scratch or try and cut off the old ones and reuse?

As Gra says, hydraulic fitting make good port fittings, either male or female, which ever you need. If fitting straight ports I usually drill them after welding.
tbh though, if you are fitting ports to both ends, then your going to probably need to disassemble the ram. You can be 100% sure that you’ve not got any swarf inside then.
 
Shovelhands

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Yes but would need to redo all the pipes at the back. It may be easier to just stick on the same ports and re-use the hoses.

that would suggest you’ve got something special , port wise? Any pics?

edit, just looked at your pictures, I’d not studied them before, they look like banjo fittings?
 
Quattromike

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that would suggest you’ve got something special , port wise? Any pics?

edit, just looked at your pictures, I’d not studied them before, they look like banjo fittings?
Yep banjo fittings already on it.
 
Shovelhands

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Yep banjo fittings already on it.
Shouldn’t be anything special about the ports then? Just BSP female threads more than likely, with a flat face for a Dowty washer. old ones will plug easily and new ones aren’t anything special imo.

but I had realised there were four of those rams to do! As annoying as it looks, only you can know how annoying it’s going to be in your everyday activities? Weigh that up against the amount of work it is to alter them?
 
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Monkeybusiness

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I genuinely don’t know the answer to this as I am no fabricator/engineer but surely it’s not too hard to tap some small lumps of thick steel plate to accept the banjo bolts, and simply drill the rams and weld these on in a better place?
 
V8Druid

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or ....... fab up some covers to protect the existing set ups from damage ;)
 
T whiting

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Are the rams just mounted upside down? It seems unlikely that all 4 would be wrong or that it left the factory with the banjos poking out the bed
 
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