things that might make you go WOW!!!!! thread

[V8Druid]

Ohh .. the end is neigh ... the sky is falling (ffs)

Yes it is, that's the point

Yes it is, that's the point

but it's not a load, it's a supply that will reduce the load

Aldi, lidl, B&Q style hardware etc. have been selling these in Germany for several years - and the world hasn't ended.

sorry @Gecko v8 didn't say any of that .... I was quoting the article and I totally agree - should be as easy as "plug and play" anything else - the installers can see their gravy train vanishing before their eyes

 

[V8Druid]

I've already been figuring out how much I can get on my garage roof ...25year guarantee ..Aldi middle aisle is gonna have to be extended
And oh can't be used in a power cut ..we'll see about that

and some -
installers across the country'll be weeping in their cornflakes ... if the costs are sensible and do come with good, long guarantees, Aldi/Lidl will not be able to keep up with demand

 

[Gecko]

sorry @Gecko v8 didn't say any of that ...

Yep, apologies.
I just looked at the formatting and realised how it read.
Fixed now.

 

[Gecko]

And oh can't be used in a power cut ..we'll see about that

The inverters sense the grid power and sync their output the grid supply.
If the grid supply isn't detected, they shut down or they'd try to power the whole neighborhood and light up the linesman (or woman - call me Loretta) sent out to fix your problem.

If you have a decent area to cover with panels, this is not the cheapest way to do it.

 

[V8Druid]

Yep, apologies.
I just looked at the formatting and realised how it read.
Fixed now.

bet there's a few wetting themselves ATM -waiting for Lidl/Aldi's goods to hit the centre aisles - and will probably be the first of many outlets retailing the death knell of a completely overhyped gravy train

 

[V8Druid]

The inverters sense the grid power and sync their output the grid supply.
If the grid supply isn't detected, they shut down they'd try to power the whole neighborhood and light up the linesman (or woman - call me Loretta) sent out to fix your problem.

If you have a decent area to cover with panels, this is not the cheapest way to do it.

wondered HTF it'd function - I have zero experience/knowledge of it all

 

[Lancs Lad]

The inverters sense the grid power and sync their output the grid supply.
If the grid supply isn't detected, they shut down they'd try to power the whole neighborhood and light up the linesman (or woman - call me Loretta) sent out to fix your problem.

If you have a decent area to cover with panels, this is not the cheapest way to do it.

Hence you need some extra "bits"
Yes a home grown system has been in the cards for a bit and have good relationship with local wholesaler....I just like the fact it's going to rough up the snake oil industry.

 

[V8Druid]

Hence you need some extra "bits"
Yes a home grown system has been in the cards for a bit and have good relationship with local wholesaler....I just like the fact it's going to rough up the snake oil industry.

I'd say that is putting it mildly ..... completely **** it up'd be my summation

 

[Gecko]

An interesting development is Oz, as visitors will confirm, the midday sun is quite potent, so the solar generation in the mid-part of the day can play merry-hell with the grid voltage.
The new solution is that retail consumers will have three hours of free elec in the middle of the day.
It rather changes the economics of a "solar battery" if you can fill it for free and run the house for the rest of the day.

 

[V8Druid]

An interesting development is Oz, as visitors will confirm, the midday sun is quite potent, so the solar generation in the mid-part of the day can play merry-hell with the grid voltage.
The new solution is that retail consumers will have three hours of free elec in the middle of the day.
It rather changes the economics of a "solar battery" if you can fill it for free and run the house for the rest of the day.

would certainly improve the cost V. return economics of a battery array for sure, pulling max out the grid, on your three free hours, to fill a battery bank

 

[Lancs Lad]

An interesting development is Oz, as visitors will confirm, the midday sun is quite potent, so the solar generation in the mid-part of the day can play merry-hell with the grid voltage.
The new solution is that retail consumers will have three hours of free elec in the middle of the day.
It rather changes the economics of a "solar battery" if you can fill it for free and run the house for the rest of the day.

What's midday sun?

 

[V8Druid]

Yep, apologies.
I just looked at the formatting and realised how it read.
Fixed now.

I missed this gem toward the end of the quoted article

" According to the ECA, plug-in solar panels should only be plugged in by a qualified electrician, although only a cynic would suggest this was motivated by a desire to promote its members' businesses. " QED

 

[Powerfab]

It's scaremongering to the "nth" degree, by regulators and industry who are reluctant to change.
This is perhaps the best and most pragmatic review of the type of installation and how UK regs presently resist it.
EFixx video
The biggest stumbling block is not the regulation, but return on investment. This needs to be installed with battery storage and "load shifting" of consumption to make it viable. These proposed installs will be a max of 4 panels and 800w returning to grid.
Nothing to stop you plugging 2 or 3 systems into the home circuits, but no matter how you look at it, solar's only available when the sun shines, in practice its going to be years for payback of the investment.

 

[V8Druid]

I missed this gem toward the end of the quoted article

" According to the ECA, plug-in solar panels should only be plugged in by a qualified electrician, although only a cynic would suggest this was motivated by a desire to promote its members' businesses. " QED

using this argument one could say that could apply equally well to a hair dryer, microwave, kettle, dishwasher, washing machine, tumble drier, computer/lap top power source, phone charger, iron, TV, etc., etc., etc. ..... meaning all appliances should be hard wired (by a competent 'person') otherwise what is the point of any 'plug and play' item/equipment if the end user can't do just that ..... running VERY scared

 

[V8Druid]

It's scaremongering to the "nth" degree, ..........

..... to save their own gravytrain

 

[V8Druid]

It's scaremongering to the "nth" degree, by regulators and industry who are reluctant to change.
This is perhaps the best and most pragmatic review of the type of installation and how UK regs presently resist it.
EFixx video
The biggest stumbling block is not the regulation, but return on investment. This needs to be installed with battery storage and "load shifting" of consumption to make it viable. These proposed installs will be a max of 4 panels and 800w returning to grid.
Nothing to stop you plugging 2 or 3 systems into the home circuits, but no matter how you look at it, solar's only available when the sun shines, in practice its going to be years for payback of the investment.

missed your additional edit on the last response ... very interesting link

 

[Gecko]

Lidl (germany) are showing three kits of Plug-In Solar. This is the cheapest:

VALE GMBH | Balkonkraftwerk »ECOFLOW 860 W« - Lidl

Balkonkraftwerk »ECOFLOW 860 W« - 299.00€ (15.08.2026)

www.lidl.de

Reading the included info, you can have up to 800W of plug in solar before you need a permit, but it must be registered.

 

[Lancs Lad]

Lidl (germany) are showing three kits of Plug-In Solar. This is the cheapest:

VALE GMBH | Balkonkraftwerk »ECOFLOW 860 W« - Lidl

Balkonkraftwerk »ECOFLOW 860 W« - 299.00€ (15.08.2026)

www.lidl.de

Reading the included info, you can have up to 800W of plug in solar before you need a permit, but it must be registered.

Somewhat cheaper than here ATM ;

Plug-In Solar 900W (2 Panel) DIY Solar Power Kit with Hanger Bolt Mounts (Enphase Micro-Inverter) | Plug In Solar

Plug-In Solar 900W (2 Panel) DIY Solar Power Kit with Hanger Bolt Mounts (Enphase Micro-Inverter)

www.pluginsolar.co.uk

 

[V8Druid]

Lidl (germany) are showing three kits of Plug-In Solar. This is the cheapest:

VALE GMBH | Balkonkraftwerk »ECOFLOW 860 W« - Lidl

Balkonkraftwerk »ECOFLOW 860 W« - 299.00€ (15.08.2026)

www.lidl.de

Reading the included info, you can have up to 800W of plug in solar before you need a permit, but it must be registered.

read somewhere the other night that the gov/HMRC are requiring anyone with solar that in-feeds to register and declare earnings from it

 

[Smiffy]

Ive always heard things about Americans having unhealthy diets but this bloke keeps popping up and honestly I am shocked about every aspect of what seems to be pretty standard American recipes. Everything comes out of a jar or packet. Everything seems to be disposable trays and plates. And everything just seems to have so many calories.

3.1M views · 84K reactions | I’ve Never Deep Fried One Of These #baconup #turkey #friedturkey #holmescooking | Holmescooking

I’ve Never Deep Fried One Of These #baconup #turkey #friedturkey #holmescooking

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