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Old Operator
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The wife likes Lowe but I see difficulties in splintering the Right. Think of religion, C of E broke from Rome, Methodists split from C of E, Primitive Methodists split off as originals not spartan enough. Not to mention Baptists, Zionists, Unitarians etc. My point here is that Reform has 8 MPs & a big following. Tory 116 but seemingly in terminal? decline. The danger with factions of factions is that they cancel one another out in a particular seat & create confusion. At the very least what is needed is an agreement seat by seat not to splinter the vote among parties that largely want the same thing, thus shooting themselves in the foot & getting the exact opposite of what they all wish.
The Tories (if they are to be believed) now back withdrawal from the EHCR. This is a prerequisite key to solving the uncontrolled immigration problem, making us masters in our own house, as are non Nazi countries of Oz, Nz, USA, Canada etc in theirs. I at one time saw Reform as junior partner to the re invigorated Tories, but now think it may be the other way round. Boris promised much but was more interested in acting on the world stage as Churchill than actually attacking real domestic problems. Under him net migration reached nearly one million!
The Labour party is now largely a middle class group of liberal dreamers. I still think of it as getting support from men teeming out of a foundry on bikes at 5pm. But it has been totally hijacked by students, the multi generational benefits caste, single mothers etc. As to its actual signed up membership, I have done work for some of these & can tell you they want East Germany not Callaghan / Healey. To them the guy laying slabs under their window is invisible like the butler in olden times.
Though Labour, Greens, Liberals, Plaid, SNP, Socialist Worker, (all open borders parties)claim to hate one another their voters are very capable of backing the most likely 'progressive' winner in any given seat thus stalling any true reform. We on this side of the fence must at least do the same, pick a winner & get behind it. Alternative is an extra five years like the past 20 months! (a third of the sentence is now gone with disastrous results) Mr Rees Mogg is at least trying to get the Right to come to some mutual accommodation. I gather many Tories have doubts about Farage but feel they could work with his deputy Richard Tice, the latter does seem an intelligent man & a good speaker
The Tories (if they are to be believed) now back withdrawal from the EHCR. This is a prerequisite key to solving the uncontrolled immigration problem, making us masters in our own house, as are non Nazi countries of Oz, Nz, USA, Canada etc in theirs. I at one time saw Reform as junior partner to the re invigorated Tories, but now think it may be the other way round. Boris promised much but was more interested in acting on the world stage as Churchill than actually attacking real domestic problems. Under him net migration reached nearly one million!
The Labour party is now largely a middle class group of liberal dreamers. I still think of it as getting support from men teeming out of a foundry on bikes at 5pm. But it has been totally hijacked by students, the multi generational benefits caste, single mothers etc. As to its actual signed up membership, I have done work for some of these & can tell you they want East Germany not Callaghan / Healey. To them the guy laying slabs under their window is invisible like the butler in olden times.
Though Labour, Greens, Liberals, Plaid, SNP, Socialist Worker, (all open borders parties)claim to hate one another their voters are very capable of backing the most likely 'progressive' winner in any given seat thus stalling any true reform. We on this side of the fence must at least do the same, pick a winner & get behind it. Alternative is an extra five years like the past 20 months! (a third of the sentence is now gone with disastrous results) Mr Rees Mogg is at least trying to get the Right to come to some mutual accommodation. I gather many Tories have doubts about Farage but feel they could work with his deputy Richard Tice, the latter does seem an intelligent man & a good speaker