Pissing about with only half a clue on the shed site.

[Stroppymonkey]

couldn't you have used your crane attachment to handle those blocks Ben ?

Yes.. and it would be better as a hook would allow me to rotate the blocks as well, however I was using the forks to move the boards about and the Jib would have got in the way when I was tipping the boards over with the forks.
Might try it on next time as I need to fit some in the corner which will be harder to do with forks.

 

[Stroppymonkey]

Short days play on the project today. Borrowed the Kubota and started moving the stockpile of hardcore around. It’s looking messy and annoying me . I’ve got a couple loads of scalpings and 803/planings to tidy it up and allow the wacker to work its charm. Hopefully next weekend.

 

[V8Druid]

Short days play on the project today. Borrowed the Kubota and started moving the stockpile of hardcore around. It’s looking messy and annoying me . I’ve got a couple loads of scalpings and 803/planings to tidy it up and allow the wacker to work its charm. Hopefully next weekend.

could do with a crusher to run that through Ben .... or a 13/15 tonner to track it in a bit

 

[Stroppymonkey]

could do with a crusher to run that through Ben .... or a 13/15 tonner to track it in a bit

I wish! Scrape of scalpings over the top and then the BIG wacker settles it all out pretty well. Got to make do with what I have on the odd day I can get to it .

 

[Stroppymonkey]

God I miss the long light evenings Couple of hours at the weekend poking skip hardcore about until it’s flattish. Charles came up to measure my gates to start make a 20ft electric opening for them. Decided he wanted the gates at his shop as we are going to cut 8” off the bottom and add an extra hinge.
Back today to empty the Ifor Lm166 off and load up the gates. Flat tyre discovered but easy to sort with moffett and impact wrench in the van.
Fuelled the moffett and topped up hyd oil and ran it half a mile up the road for neighbour Dan to borrow for a couple of days on his shed project. It’s not much fun to road it with hydraulic drive, if you run at 100% revs it seems to get hot after half a mile.
The beacon got knocked off by an errant ladder in a recent storm , so I’ve bought a cordless magnetic one from Amazon . VERY bright!

 

[Stroppymonkey]

Wasted an hour of my Sunday unsticking a very stuck Moffett. A bit stickier there than I thought 🫣

 

[DaveDCB]

Yep you deffo made it worse before it came out

 

[Vinpetrol]

did

Wasted an hour of my Sunday unsticking a very stuck Moffett. A bit stickier there than I thought 🫣
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did you ever consider doing the floor before you built the shed or was it always going to be done once it’s built ?

 

[Stroppymonkey]

did

did you ever consider doing the floor before you built the shed or was it always going to be done once it’s built ?

The floor IN the shed ? Always going to be after. Small end won’t have concrete , large end I plan to fully insulate and time/cash flow always meant it was for the future. 2028 probably

 

[Stroppymonkey]

Yep you deffo made it worse before it came out

Usually the case. Have smoothed it all out now, just the lonely concrete panel marooned on its own to tell the tale.

 

[Vinpetrol]

The floor IN the shed ? Always going to be after. Small end won’t have concrete , large end I plan to fully insulate and time/cash flow always meant it was for the future. 2028 probably

Yes the shed . I was wondering about my own which will be a lot smaller than yours 13x8m and less head room . I’ve been thinking about doing it after with the shed up or before when it’s easier to fire the conc in and run roller screed over it . What’s the most popular way of doing it .

 

[Stroppymonkey]

Yes the shed . I was wondering about my own which will be a lot smaller than yours 13x8m and less head room . I’ve been thinking about doing it after with the shed up or before when it’s easier to fire the conc in and run roller screed over it . What’s the most popular way of doing it .

I think the 'best' way seems to be to lay the floor AFTER the frame but before the roof, then you can pump it in and still work around the outside for screeding. 13x8 still a nice size shed

 

[Monkeybusiness]

Yes the shed . I was wondering about my own which will be a lot smaller than yours 13x8m and less head room . I’ve been thinking about doing it after with the shed up or before when it’s easier to fire the conc in and run roller screed over it . What’s the most popular way of doing it .

From an ease of building perspective it would be amazing to work off an existing perfect concrete slab!
However, it seems to be ‘the norm’ to stone up and build off that, with the floor going in last. This prevents damage to the finished floor, allows for ‘alterations’ (missed ducting/pipe work can be dug in etc), and you can decide at any point if you want more insulation etc.
The rule of thumb with shed building is to have a yard/laydown area the same size as the building to work off/store materials apparently. This rings true having built my own. Definitely level and stone up as large an area as you can get away with!

 

[Stroppymonkey]

From an ease of building perspective it would be amazing to work off an existing perfect concrete slab!
However, it seems to be ‘the norm’ to stone up and build off that, with the floor going in last. This prevents damage to the finished floor, allows for ‘alterations’ (missed ducting/pipe work can be dug in etc), and you can decide at any point if you want more insulation etc.
The rule of thumb with shed building is to have a yard/laydown area the same size as the building to work off/store materials apparently. This rings true having built my own. Definitely level and stone up as large an area as you can get away with!

That is my plan. Outside space about double that of inside. Wet clay ground means lots of groundworks though :-(

 

[Smiffy]

I think the 'best' way seems to be to lay the floor AFTER the frame but before the roof, then you can pump it in and still work around the outside for screeding. 13x8 still a nice size shed

We always put the roof on. Gives the best chance of getting everything done and not having to wait on the weather.
If you have the time reverse the lorry down one side and poor the other then wait 7 days and do the reverse.
Or if it's big do chequer board so you can work on four sides of a manageable slab.

 

[pettsy]

Only big shed build I’ve been involved was this one, the floor was poured last with k-forms. With the roof and panel work finished it means there’s no problems with weather during the pour and finishing.

I’d love to show some pics of it finished inside, the owner really treated himself after years of making do with a smaller workshop. Lots of even lighting with no dark spots, plenty of single and 3 phase power sockets, an overhead gantry crane etc!

 

[Monkeybusiness]

I used a firm with a Ligchine machine to pour my floor - it was just under 60 m3 in one hit (the shed is 80x50 feet).
They are very good at what they do in fairness, but my god they made it look so easy, and the finish was perfect!

 

[Stroppymonkey]

I used a firm with a Ligchine machine to pour my floor - it was just under 60 m3 in one hit (the shed is 80x50 feet).
They are very good at what they do in fairness, but my god they made it look so easy, and the finish was perfect!

Is that a laser grader? One of our local outfits has one . I think I am going to do mine in 4 x 15ft bays with K-Forms. Given my day job of installing heating , and our constant production of usable waste fuel.. I plan to install UFH pipework onto/into the slab. Will needs joints for movement, and I can’t see a nice way of doing the whole floor at once.
Will ask advice once we get somewhere near the point of having to work it out. Years away yet.

 

[Monkeybusiness]

Is that a laser grader? One of our local outfits has one . I think I am going to do mine in 4 x 15ft bays with K-Forms. Given my day job of installing heating , and our constant production of usable waste fuel.. I plan to install UFH pipework onto/into the slab. Will needs joints for movement, and I can’t see a nice way of doing the whole floor at once.
Will ask advice once we get somewhere near the point of having to work it out. Years away yet.

Yeah, laser screeder. They cut joints in the following morning. The slab was laid with fibres in it, hasn’t moved at all.

 

[Vinpetrol]

Is that a laser grader? One of our local outfits has one . I think I am going to do mine in 4 x 15ft bays with K-Forms. Given my day job of installing heating , and our constant production of usable waste fuel.. I plan to install UFH pipework onto/into the slab. Will needs joints for movement, and I can’t see a nice way of doing the whole floor at once.
Will ask advice once we get somewhere near the point of having to work it out. Years away yet.

I was thinking the same re the ufh . We do it anyway so it might be a good idea to fit it so it can be coupled up to an oil boiler if needed .
I was thinking for size of my shed though to possibly pour floor first . If I get to it quickly though it’ll be done later on account of weather