The 'Today's Job' thread

[Silversabre]

Playing at setting out kerb lines today. Slowly getting the hang of it.
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Don't know if you have one of these yet but if not I'd advise you invest so as you can easily set the tapes, just need to change the pole height to 170 and will give you the tape down from top of pin.

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Then it's good to have one on these quick release adaptors so as your able to quickly pop off the pole to set the tapes

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Finally get yourself a bipod for the pole to keep the controller out of the mud unless you're got an assistant to hold it or do the knocking in? And then a set of these

 

[Smiffy]

Don't know if you have one of these yet but if not I'd advise you invest so as you can easily set the tapes, just need to change the pole height to 170 and will give you the tape down from top of pin.

Mini Prism Pole 120mm - Surveying -UK Seller - VAT Invoice | eBay UK

Compatible prism height: 25 mm. Removable tip. Easy to use.

www.ebay.co.uk

Then it's good to have one on these quick release adaptors so as your able to quickly pop off the pole to set the tapes

QUICK RELEASE ADAPTER KIT FOR PRISM POLE GPS SURVEYING TOPCON TRIMBLE SWISS TYPE | eBay UK

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for QUICK RELEASE ADAPTER KIT FOR PRISM POLE GPS SURVEYING TOPCON TRIMBLE SWISS TYPE at the best online prices at eBay UK! Free delivery for many products!

www.ebay.co.uk

Finally get yourself a bipod for the pole to keep the controller out of the mud unless you're got an assistant to hold it or do the knocking in? And then a set of these

I don't have one quite that short. It's about 300mm its home made so can be cut down shorter if I decide. Haven't used it yet though as haven't done anything requiring the accuracy.
What do you mean by tapes?


I have looked at the bipods but they seem quite bulky and dear for what they are. I just grab a labourer to put pins in as it also saves carrying them around. We are currently using some quite hefty pins as we had a thousand left over from a floor slab

 

[Silversabre]

I don't have one quite that short. It's about 300mm its home made so can be cut down shorter if I decide. Haven't used it yet though as haven't done anything requiring the accuracy.
What do you mean by tapes?


I have looked at the bipods but they seem quite bulky and dear for what they are. I just grab a labourer to put pins in as it also saves carrying them around. We are currently using some quite hefty pins as we had a thousand left over from a floor slab

Tapes - Insulation tape with your preferred level. Top of kerb, finished road or watermark

I have a 300mm seco one for mine, have a large one too but have only ever used that if needed to set up off nails and didn't have my prism station kit with me.

I may have a spare small bipod, small adjustable pole think it's 250 to 400 bought for setting out in footings but wasn't as big as I liked and I now work differently and if your doing anything setting out of concrete a little steady I use before upgrading to something bigger.

If interested will photograph and you can have for the postage

 

[doobin]

I have looked at the bipods but they seem quite bulky and dear for what they are. I just grab a labourer to put pins in as it also saves carrying them around. We are currently using some quite hefty pins as we had a thousand left over from a floor slab

Theres no point in investing in kit like this and having the brains to use it and still knocking in pins yourself!

 

[Silversabre]

Theres no point in investing in kit like this and having the brains to use it and still knocking in pins yourself!

Hey I have, still do and a lot more besides, LOL

 

[Smiffy]

Tapes - Insulation tape with your preferred level. Top of kerb, finished road or watermark

I have a 300mm seco one for mine, have a large one too but have only ever used that if needed to set up off nails and didn't have my prism station kit with me.

I may have a spare small bipod, small adjustable pole think it's 250 to 400 bought for setting out in footings but wasn't as big as I liked and I now work differently and if your doing anything setting out of concrete a little steady I use before upgrading to something bigger.

If interested will photograph and you can have for the postage

Oh right I've been taught to bang the pins in then give the groundworkers a measurement down from the top of pin. Then they set their own levels.

And yeah I would be interested in the small pole.
My one is about 300mm fixed but I might shorten it to the size of the one you linked ready for doing brickwork.
There is a bloke that does some videos on you tube that has the stubby point screwed in one end of the prism and a full size pole screwed in the other so he just flip it. Just have to remember to change the pole size.

 

[Silversabre]

Oh right I've been taught to bang the pins in then give the groundworkers a measurement down from the top of pin. Then they set their own levels

Yes that's the right way, set the pin out using the detail pole (still like to stay low, as better accuracy) drive the pin, check plumb, check level by using the quick release to check level of pin relative to FRL or grade between two design points

If using detail pole to position pins only and then short pole to set heights I usually leave the height set to the small pole height.

 

[Silversabre]

Smiffy:

Yours if you want as said before:

Pole

Mini prism station, could as a backsight or if setting out on footings and slabs

Point comes off so you'll have a short pole height for kerbs

Finally bipod as on my pole picture above in other post

 

[Smiffy]

Smiffy:

Yours if you want as said before:

Pole
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Mini prism station, could as a backsight or if setting out on footings and slabs
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Point comes off so you'll have a short pole height for kerbs
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Finally bipod as on my pole picture above in other post
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Thank you very much. That would be brilliant. I will give you a pm about it.

 

[Smiffy]

Yes that's the right way, set the pin out using the detail pole (still like to stay low, as better accuracy) drive the pin, check plumb, check level by using the quick release to check level of pin relative to FRL or grade between two design points

If using detail pole to position pins only and then short pole to set heights I usually leave the height set to the small pole height.

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You must have very good groundworkers to give them that level of accuracy.
Ours will have driven over the pin multiple times by the time any kerbs are laid

 

[Silversabre]

You must have very good groundworkers to give them that level of accuracy.
Ours will have driven over the pin multiple times by the time any kerbs are laid

Kerbing is my least favourite activity

You pin everything out twice, as you pin it out and it needs digging and filling....they sort out that and pull the pins and so you do it all over again

Each gang wants something different, front, back, top, watermark and when there not running them over there popping the mushrooms off do you get the site manger complaining you've put pins in without mushrooms.

 

[Smiffy]

Kerbing is my least favourite activity

You pin everything out twice, as you pin it out and it needs digging and filling....they sort out that and pull the pins and so you do it all over again

Each gang wants something different, front, back, top, watermark and when there not running them over there popping the mushrooms off do you get the site manger complaining you've put pins in without mushrooms.

When I was on the tools I never did a site as big as the one in the pictures but I did everything myself. All the kerbs where set from a datum with a laser level. Corner/end pins and centre of radius was all that's needed. It's amazing how unskilled some of the big site guys that want top money are.

 

[groundworker]

When I was on the tools I never did a site as big as the one in the pictures but I did everything myself.

It's amazing how unskilled some of the big site guys that want top money are.

Same, got so fed up of "when's the engineer coming to set this out?" every simple little task that could easily be done with string and tape.

 

[Smiffy]

Same, got so fed up of "when's the engineer coming to set this out?" every simple little task that could easily be done with string and tape.

And they want someone to mark up the drawings colour coded as to depths and widths of foundation sections, and annotate the drawing with every detail so the don't have to use a scale or look through more than one drawing.

 

[DaveDCB]

Same, got so fed up of "when's the engineer coming to set this out?" every simple little task that could easily be done with string and tape.

Just means they can point the finger at someone else!
I remember watching a old episode of grand designs and big Kev took the piss out of a builder for using a string line for setting out.. I’d of been raging if the prick had called me out like that on tv!!

 

[Smiffy]

Just means they can point the finger at someone else!

I don't think they know any better. They haven't learnt to do anything for themselves as the big sites do it with an engineer. They can read basic drawings but as soon as you have a key or detail drawing to be read in unison then it goes out the window. It infuriates me the reputation that groundworkers have as it can easily be as skilled as anything else on site. Yet most choose to lower themselves to the lowest common denominator.

 

[groundworker]

And they want someone to mark up the drawings colour coded as to depths and widths of foundation sections, and annotate the drawing with every detail so the don't have to use a scale or look through more than one drawing.

I bet they still call you half an hour after you've left site asking you to come back and explain it.

 

[Smiffy]

I bet they still call you half an hour after you've left site asking you to come back and explain it.

Or worse they charge on in there own direction without a second thought.
And some of them think they are worth serious money.

 

[doobin]

Leaving machines on site over the weekend. Probably going to work tomorrow though.

Ajax system in the e27 and sensors on both machines as you can see by the Jake’s door. Any movement and photos sent to my phone, siren in jack goes off (so they look in the wrong machine)

4g camera on the mast wired in to bobcat, you can see the backup battery at the top of the pole in case they cut the wire.

Both camera and alarm on a multi network sim.

 

[Mogman]

Three hours there
Three hours back

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