V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
was my exact same thought earlier - but'd have to extend the thumb to reach past the tilty to the bucket
Storrsy
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Yeah a grab is better for simply selecting and placing stone and the smaller and more fiddly the stone becomes the more apparent this is . But for stone faced banks it's surprising how much actual earth moving goes on and so there is the constant need for bucket work too to backfill and dig down for setting the base stones etc. the thumb can handle really oversized stuff too. Like anything you have to find the happy compromise- but I like the simplicity of turning up with just a thumb and bucket and can do anything with it really. The Kinshofer I had with with the case was a weapon but was always itching for a thumb on it too.Yeah as brilliant as a gripper is they aren't designed for this, so unless your going ecoil so you can swop between bucket / selector grab quickly then a thumb suits that walling work v well, I suppose a selector grab is better at actually placing those rocks but it looks like you manage fine with your thumb
Storrsy
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Id like to try it but I think it would have to be a longer thumb to meet the bucket teeth at the right point, probably ok on a larger machine but certainly mini diggers it's important for the thumb to be the right length so it doesn't foul either the lift ram or the arm itself when it folds back in. There's also the weight factor. A tilty, bucket and thumb all starts to become quite alot of weight on the end.was my exact same thought earlier - but'd have to extend the thumb to reach past the tilty to the bucket
Furniss
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Get the feeling a tlity under a thumb being an ungainly numb lump ...simple is maybe best
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
stow that Doob ... just found it
Storrsy
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Sounds pretty revolutionary for its time
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
updated a little, it wouldn't make a bad weapon today TBHSounds pretty revolutionary for its time
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bobthebuilder
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would you not beat the tilty mechanism to bits ?was my exact same thought earlier - but'd have to extend the thumb to reach past the tilty to the bucket
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
it'd give the pivots a caning for sure - and the ring gear
Storrsy
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Personally I don't use the thumb to apply the pressure as it would easily overcome the bucket ram. I position the thumb roughly where I need it and use the bucket to do the rest- much more controlled and kinder to the machine so I think If used like this it wouldn't be a problem to a tilty.
Storrsy
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Well I won £20 on a scratch card the other day so watch this space.
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bobthebuilder
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accidently spin the tilty with a big rock held ?
Storrsy
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Id imagine they're not that fragile- If you can dig with them they'd take the odd mishap.
Furniss
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Unless you found a really cheap tilty then im not sure I'd want to be bringing rocks into that space between tilty and thumb
Is there anyone out there in internet land actually running thumb tilty combo ?
Storrsy
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Chap I know down this way. Not a very nice thumb as far too wide but. It's also a manual thumb so pain in the arse to active. Tbh I just wouldn't want to run a thumb and tilty because just feel like it's all too much bulk out on the end. I think you either go down tilty and attachment/grab route or stick with basic bucket and thumb combo.
Storrsy
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Why do you think rocks would be such a problem though out of interest. I can't really see the difference between digging forces and clamping a rock against a thumb- surely something like digging out a large stump would give a tilt far more grief?
Furniss
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I agree ...one or the other
Personally wasn't immediately a fan of the grab under the tilty top hitch setup but didn't use it much to get used to it.
Not the forces so much and bad to tell without seeing/using it but tilty in this space is potentially vulnerable for big stuff no ?
Personally wasn't immediately a fan of the grab under the tilty top hitch setup but didn't use it much to get used to it.
Not the forces so much and bad to tell without seeing/using it but tilty in this space is potentially vulnerable for big stuff no ?
TiltyShaun
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I have to confess. I had a manual thumb on the Kx71-3 before I put the Engcon on. Tried to use it once. The thumb was set up for the old digging bucket and geometry was all wrong. Took the thumb off and it has never gone back on. The thumb bracket is ideal for hanging a short chain and lifting bull bags. So not all lost!!
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